NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER
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(2963) (2998) (3071) all ping for me, specifically, and his general "I don't want to step on toes" fake-ish scumhunting has me a little put off. I don't have a strong read on him because I've only played one game with him on this site. (We've played off-site before, but the meta there was a lot different.) More than that, I was scum with him last game we had together and tunneled him to death, so approaching him from a different mindset is difficult.-
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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In post 3110, Muffin wrote:In post 3108, Thor665 wrote:I find it dishonest of you to act like a number of name mentions qualifies the same as degree of mention.
Oh so now the valid metric is "Thor's qualitative, arbitrary scale describing the degree to which someone was mentioned"?
What do you think the correct scale is then and/or what I meant?
Specifically and only number of times a name was mentioned?
Because that is either incredibly stupid or incredibly dishonest of you.
@GM - yes, I am aware you said you would do it today. You also said you would do it weeks ago. Which lie would you like me to believe?-
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Muffin Mafia Scum
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Prior to and including the vote in question:
Spoiler: 3 pere mentions
Spoiler: 4 anen mentions
And then there's the vote itself:
In post 2513, Shiro wrote:VOTE:PERE
I thought Anen was best but eh now I dont want it and Thor is still a really horrible wagon imo so yea
So, yeah. 3 posts seem to be mostly about pere, and 4 mostly about anen, including one that is sort of about both of them. Not to mention if you go through them chronologically there is a clear progression of reads. Do you want to try your pathetically-bad argument again?
In before Thor just restates the same argument ignoring the factual evidence that he is full of shit.
In before "yeah but it's the QUALITY of the mentions, on some subjective scale it's impossible to argue against because I just made it up"One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Muffin Mafia Scum
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In post 3126, Thor665 wrote:What do you think the correct scale is then and/or what I meant?
Specifically and only number of times a name was mentioned?
Because that is either incredibly stupid or incredibly dishonest of you.
First you spoke of the number of mentions:
In post 3091, Thor665 wrote:Look at how many thoughts were posted about Anen. Then look at the same for Pere.
Then I did a quick ctrl+f and saw that mentions were roughly on par.
After that you decided that no, even though you said "look at how many thoughts were posted", you didn't mean quantity. What you meant by "how many" was in fact a meaningless, qualitative "the degree to which they were mentioned":
In post 3108, Thor665 wrote:I find it dishonest of you to act like a number of name mentions qualifies the same as degree of mention.
But as shown above even if we go back and look at not just a ctrl+f but a holistic appraisal of Shiro's iso before the vote in question, you're still wrong. I might excuse a newbie for making such a weak argument but you can't hide behind the excuse of "my case is bad because I am a bad player".
Therefore I can only conclude this is your attempt to push a mislynch on a quasi-lurker in hopes that town would just go along with you rather than lynch someone with name recognition, and a newbie that you could probably bully into making a damning mistake.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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So when I said 'thoughts' you went with 'names' and decided that was legit.
Your Pere quotes are pretty heavily padded out with conversation about Thor and you know it.
Back up this gak some more please.-
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Muffin Mafia Scum
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At first perhaps. I then went and did it your way. You're still full of shit.In post 3129, Thor665 wrote:So when I said 'thoughts' you went with 'names' and decided that was legit.
Hmmm, you're saying it's the quality of the mentions that matters now? I'm pretty sure I saw that mentioned somewhere already...Your Pere quotes are pretty heavily padded out with conversation about Thor and you know it.
Muffin wrote:In before "yeah but it's the QUALITY of the mentions, on some subjective scale it's impossible to argue against because I just made it up"One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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In post 3129, Thor665 wrote:Back up this gak some more please.
Says the guy voting an obvtown newbie.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Shiro Jack of All Trades
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In post 3132, Shiro wrote:@Slandar As the other person who supports my lynch what do you think of Thor's case ?
do you have thoughts about anything other than why people are voting you.
Is anything else of interest?-
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@Boonskiies
maybe you have dodged the lynch bullet maybe not.
A recent vote count 3103 in part said
[5]Boonskiies:T S O, Izariael, Flubbernugget, Garmr, Muffin
since then Muffin moved off you, but I wouldn't count on that being permanent.
Look scummy in your play from here, and I may vote you again
If you are town, you need to play. If you are scum you need to take the risk you normally dont and play.
3095 is piggy backing off 3058 3066 (but hey at least you read something)
If you want to try and achieve the lynch of someone else (other than yourself) read Iz and/or Garmr
and find stuff more useful and specific than
In post 3093, Boonskiies wrote:Also, Gamr is sprouting fluff. We should lynch him. Or Iz.
otherwise its you that may wind up sprouting fluff.(daisies)
yeah yeah, I will be doing something myself, shortly
@Boonskiies
But boon its easier if you go first, later there are less potential for scummy things to find.
Even if you think but I am a VI, just "try"...
Other people can read "try",
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In post 3133, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 3132, Shiro wrote:@Slandar As the other person who supports my lynch what do you think of Thor's case ?
do you have thoughts about anything other than why people are voting you.
Is anything else of interest?
Boons sudden disappearance after such a burst of activity. Is kinda odd I was expecting him to stick around.
I am stll waiting for him to say what kind of info thor flip will give him since he admitted that he didnt read day 1.
I would have been more concerned about that though if I wasnt leaning town on him-
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In post 3134, AxleGreaser wrote:since then Muffin moved off you, but I wouldn't count on that being permanent.
You are correct. I would happily lynch him or thor.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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AxleGreaser Mafia Scum
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In post 3135, Shiro wrote:In post 3133, AxleGreaser wrote:
do you have thoughts about anything other than why people are voting you.
Is anything else of interest?
Boons sudden disappearance after such a burst of activity. Is kinda odd I was expecting him to stick around.
I am stll waiting for him to say what kind of info thor flip will give him since he admitted that he didnt read day 1.
I would have been more concerned about that though if I wasnt leaning town on him
Life happens, which is where I will be for a little bit.
However theres a start.
Why are you leaning town on him?
Also
This will go easier and faster and better if you just volunteer the obvious useful information.-
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His claim makes sense
He claim a pr that confirms multiball
^A strech of an assumption but not an impossible one from 2 shot bp
He says his role will be main point of Discussion day 2
^He was convinced he was going to be NKed. If he was shot as 2 shot BP wouldnt that make him main point of dusscussion.
His I am protective role in our Hood.
^Still lines up. He was convinced that we have scum in our hood cause we are the biggest one. It does seem like the final nail in the coffin to seal the nk on him.
It does take a lot of assuming from his part but his words do connect so
If it was a fake claim it certenly seems to be a pre planned one which as you can see I do not think is the case-
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Boonskiies That's Not All, Folks!
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In post 3036, Boonskiies wrote:@axle - you fail to mention the most likely part of the quote you keep quoting. And honestly, look how much talk it's brought. Itisthe main point of toDay.And day 1 I had to act like I was a doctor or a vigilante so I could hopefully be shot during the night. I expected that to be good town play tbh...sorry, I'm not too strong a town player all the time. Check my scum game though. I am a strong scum player.
In post 2911, Boonskiies wrote:I'm just not into this game enough to think things through. I got to the point where I wasn't going to get NK'd anyways, so me being bullet proof doesn't mean anything anymore. There was a reason for me trying to pointlessly claim a PR.I've never been NK'd before though.
In post 3138, Shiro wrote:His claim makes sense
He claim a pr that confirms multiball
^A strech of an assumption but not an impossible one from 2 shot bp
He says his role will be main point of Discussion day 2
^He was convinced he was going to be NKed. If he was shot as 2 shot BP wouldnt that make him main point of dusscussion.
His I am protective role in our Hood.
^Still lines up. He was convinced that we have scum in our hood cause we are the biggest one. It does seem like the final nail in the coffin to seal the nk on him.
It does take a lot of assuming from his part but his words do connect so
If it was a fake claim it certenly seems to be a pre planned one which as you can see I do not think is the case
Do these posts of his figure in your analysis, if so how?
@Boonskiies.
Go play on a freeway or something.
Shiro is commenting on something other than the case against Shiro.
Guess what you ought do...-
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Shiro Jack of All Trades
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Yes him saying he never been nked before is off does that mean as a 2 shot bp he wasnt supposed to try ? Assuming it the way he did was a strech which makes me tjink it is why he claimed protective role in our hood in hopes of sealung it.
^About blue point
The purple one lines up he kind of claimed doc in our hood to draw it. Or I am failing to see your point.-
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In post 3141, Shiro wrote:Yes him saying he never been nked before is off does that mean as a 2 shot bp he wasnt supposed to try ? Assuming it the way he did was a strech which makes me tjink it is why he claimed protective role in our hood in hopes of sealung it.
^About blue point
The purple one lines up he kind of claimed doc in our hood to draw it. Or I am failing to see your point.
purple one hey i am failing to see it too. (im cooking dinner as well)(bwains not al that worky)
It was the difference between you saying he wasconvincedhed draw the night kill and his own knowledge he has never been killed before.
Do you think he was convinced or only hoped to draw the nk.-
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Phone post.
Got townreads on Flubber, Muffin, goodmorning, Shiro, TierShift and reinoe (mostly townread on previous players in the slot.)
Leaning town on: TSO, Nero, Slandaar, Axle, Garmr, davesaz
Scumreads: Scripten, Thor, Boonskiies, The Fonz
Undecided: beastcharizard
Phone posting is way too painful to bother with posting reasons right now, so all you get is a glimpse at where I'm at right now. Sorry 'bout it.I have the comprehensive ability of a vegetable.-
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In post 3116, Nero Cain wrote:but Muffin is prob scum too. Like that whole asking Muffin for his opinion on me 'cause he wanted to understand why we had different opinions on Boons looked really forced and manufactured.
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neither of them are following up at all.
What are you talking about here? Can you give me post numbers?
In post 3125, Scripten wrote:(2963) (2998) (3071) all ping for me, specifically, and his general "I don't want to step on toes" fake-ish scumhunting has me a little put off. I don't have a strong read on him because I've only played one game with him on this site. (We've played off-site before, but the meta there was a lot different.) More than that, I was scum with him last game we had together and tunneled him to death, so approaching him from a different mindset is difficult.
This is a good post that makes me think very much that scripten is town. Very much.
In post 3129, Thor665 wrote:So when I said 'thoughts' you went with 'names' and decided that was legit.
Your Pere quotes are pretty heavily padded out with conversation about Thor and you know it.
Back up this gak some more please.
Right, this is not only factually wrong, but an awful defence to muffin's points as well.
Muffin, I like your push on thor. There's a thing I want to know, though. Yesterday, you were pretty much set for lynching pere and I believe you townread thor (didn't you?). Where and why did that change?-
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Just going to say it I been metaing flubbernugget and I think he is town this game. I think I picked up a scum tell for him or two which I don't want to share on here but he hasn't done those this game so there's no real point to saying it. Also the way he treats tso in this game compared to the way he treats tso in his scum game is different even through he has scum read him in this and that.-
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Hey guys it's still Thursday right?!
In post 1737, WBOCampfire1104 wrote:It's been 8 months since I've played a game. Wow.
I'm gonna go back and investigate.
Peace.
Reads completely fake. It literally makes me laugh reading it and he wasn't trying to be funny.-
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In post 3148, Slandaar wrote:Hey guys it's still Thursday right?!
In post 1737, WBOCampfire1104 wrote:It's been 8 months since I've played a game. Wow.
I'm gonna go back and investigate.
Peace.
Reads completely fake. It literally makes me laugh reading it and he wasn't trying to be funny.
Lol that post alone was the prelude of a flaker. Don't see how it's alignment indicative in any way through. Before you said you didn't like it. Which makes me think you thought it was scummy. Can you explain how it's scummy?
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