Magic: The Gathering,GO TEAM MS!

This forum is specifically for discussing non-Mafia games
(board, card, video, we're not picky)
.
Playing
such games should happen in the Mish Mash forum, of course.
User avatar
chamber
chamber
Cases are scummy
User avatar
User avatar
chamber
Cases are scummy
Cases are scummy
Posts: 10703
Joined: November 20, 2005

Post Post #5125 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:54 pm

Post by chamber »

Less important, but they also want to draw a very limited number of lands, for most decks 1 life is going to matter more than the small % difference of drawing a land. Burn is the one deck where that may not be true.
Taking a break from the site.
User avatar
InflatablePie
InflatablePie
they / them
Accept When They Do
User avatar
User avatar
InflatablePie
they / them
Accept When They Do
Accept When They Do
Posts: 3442
Joined: December 23, 2009
Pronoun: they / them
Location: Shrug City, West Covina; Ottawa CA

Post Post #5126 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:58 pm

Post by InflatablePie »

also fuels Grim Lavamancer and can fetch Sacred Foundry/Steam Vents if the deck is splashing white/blue (Lightning Helix/lol Treasure Cruise)

also gonna suggest shoktroopa's various lists, he's the most popular monoU Tron player and I tested a few of his lists when I was considering buying monoU Tron myself. usually runs Solemn Simulacrums over multiple Treasure Mage, Talisman of Dominance, and a second Wurmcoil over Batterskull. adjust accordingly to your metagame obviously.
If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?

No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.
User avatar
Natirasha
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9041
Joined: February 18, 2008
Location: preening her feathers

Post Post #5127 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:39 pm

Post by Natirasha »

I actually wonder if Tezzerator is good in modern right now. Challice seems like the hottest card ever right now and it gets to tutor them up.
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14372
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #5128 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:03 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

Yeah, there's actually a couple of reasons, as the thread has pointed out.

People always want to jam fetches in mono colored decks for "thinning" but in general I think if you don't have extra reasons to run fetches (grim lavamancer, searing blaze, et al.) the point of life lost is going to be more likely to be relevant than the deck thinning you get off of one fetch.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
PeregrineV
PeregrineV
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
PeregrineV
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21275
Joined: February 23, 2011
Location: Zendikar

Post Post #5129 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:54 am

Post by PeregrineV »

In post 5116, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 5113, bv310 wrote:I feel like that would just have the True-Name Nemesis issue again with the blue deck being sold out everywhere and the rest sitting on shelves.

They have made it perfectly clear that they are willing to print the shit out of commander products. Everyone who bought out that deck to sit on is pretty sad about it.

Some people will make the same mistake, but I wager not as many.


I finally got a hold of the True-Name commander deck(2013) from Walmart for normal price, instead of the jacked up prices people wanted.
I will have
Limited Access
on weekends.
User avatar
bv310
bv310
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
bv310
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2834
Joined: November 14, 2009
Location: La Loche, Saskatchewan

Post Post #5130 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:27 am

Post by bv310 »

Every single deck that was 4-0 in yesterday's Modern Daily ran a full set of Treasure Cruise: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/16295

This bothers me a lot.

(Also http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/249733 did well and I love it because it's awful)
User avatar
Klazam
Klazam
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Klazam
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5641
Joined: June 28, 2010
Pronoun: He/Him

Post Post #5131 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:28 am

Post by Klazam »

the card is stupid
User avatar
bv310
bv310
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
bv310
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2834
Joined: November 14, 2009
Location: La Loche, Saskatchewan

Post Post #5132 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:37 am

Post by bv310 »

53% of every deck 3-1 or better. I'm honestly considering Rest in Peace out of the sideboard in Angel Pod and/or switching it up to Naya to fit in Kiki-Jiki combo alongside Archangel.
User avatar
Natirasha
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9041
Joined: February 18, 2008
Location: preening her feathers

Post Post #5133 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:05 am

Post by Natirasha »

I'm telling you, man, RIPbears is where it's at.
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14372
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #5134 (ISO) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:07 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
Shanba
Shanba
So win
User avatar
User avatar
Shanba
So win
So win
Posts: 4072
Joined: January 3, 2007
Location: Up a Tree

Post Post #5135 (ISO) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:37 am

Post by Shanba »

Guess that settles it then.
(10:50:24 PM) xcaykex: GODDAMNIT I DONT WANNA GET RID OF MY TENTACLE RAPE PORN

Ribbit.
User avatar
Klazam
Klazam
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Klazam
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5641
Joined: June 28, 2010
Pronoun: He/Him

Post Post #5136 (ISO) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:39 am

Post by Klazam »

i am glad they're cracking down on cheaters now
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14372
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #5137 (ISO) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:54 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

Yeah. I get that. I just feel like...Personally betrayed by him.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
Natirasha
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9041
Joined: February 18, 2008
Location: preening her feathers

Post Post #5138 (ISO) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:35 am

Post by Natirasha »

I wonder if all these scandals will cause an uptick in judges shuffling decks.
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
User avatar
Knight of Cydonia
Knight of Cydonia
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Knight of Cydonia
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3482
Joined: June 23, 2008

Post Post #5139 (ISO) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:05 am

Post by Knight of Cydonia »

I know it's made me notice players shuffling oddly at FNM a lot more. Not to a "yo, I want a judge to shuffle instead of you" level obviously, but to the point where I've pointed out to people how they could be interpreted as looking at extra cards and what sort of problems they could see if they ever went to Comp REL events.
User avatar
Natirasha
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9041
Joined: February 18, 2008
Location: preening her feathers

Post Post #5140 (ISO) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:56 am

Post by Natirasha »

In a way it kinda annoys me, because I've always had trouble shuffling decks of any cards and I'm always tripping over myself when shuffling. I swear it's not intended, but it just happens!
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14372
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #5141 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:50 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
Natirasha
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9041
Joined: February 18, 2008
Location: preening her feathers

Post Post #5142 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:37 am

Post by Natirasha »

So, all commander spoilers are out.

Fairly enough due to last year, black got kinda hosed. Sad no full command cycle reprint. Containment Priest is okay and probably going to see some measure of play.
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
User avatar
bv310
bv310
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
bv310
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2834
Joined: November 14, 2009
Location: La Loche, Saskatchewan

Post Post #5143 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:46 am

Post by bv310 »

I'm buying the Nahiri one. The fact that it comes with a Skullclamp (meaning her +2 can also just read "Draw 2 cards") is a big sell for me. I'm planning to go Cat-tribal with it.
User avatar
PeregrineV
PeregrineV
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
PeregrineV
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21275
Joined: February 23, 2011
Location: Zendikar

Post Post #5144 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:37 am

Post by PeregrineV »

We have a Grand Prix coming to town, and I'm thinking of entering it, but haven't been keeping up with standard lately.

Anyone going to it, or have any ideas for standard decks I should play? Not a big blue fan, but can do it if needed.

Already plan on looking at recent events, but it seems this group has some above average players, so would like to hear opinions.
I will have
Limited Access
on weekends.
User avatar
Klazam
Klazam
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Klazam
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5641
Joined: June 28, 2010
Pronoun: He/Him

Post Post #5145 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:41 am

Post by Klazam »

i enjoy both jeskai and azban. the big 2 decks of the format atm
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14372
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #5146 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:45 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

In post 5144, PeregrineV wrote:We have a Grand Prix coming to town, and I'm thinking of entering it, but haven't been keeping up with standard lately.

Anyone going to it, or have any ideas for standard decks I should play? Not a big blue fan, but can do it if needed.

Already plan on looking at recent events, but it seems this group has some above average players, so would like to hear opinions.

If you're new to the format, I think your best bet is to either try to just have a deck with a solid matchup against everything (Abzan midrange) or a deck that if you win the no hate in sideboards lottery will just take it down (Jeskai combo)

I think jeskai burn is a bad deck for someone who is not very well versed in the format, since its a deck that is very much tuned for specific metagames.

I think you'd be giving up a lot of percentage points if you played it without knowing the expected field beforehand.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
Natirasha
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Natirasha
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9041
Joined: February 18, 2008
Location: preening her feathers

Post Post #5147 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:08 am

Post by Natirasha »

That entire time I lived in Texas, and never once mentioned you lived in the area, PV! I am disappointed :(

Given it's Texas, expect RG monsters and Abzan to be the decks to beat. I know the DFW crowd really loves Stormbreath and Siege Rhino decks, although there will be some Jeskai players.

I actually think the tier 2 decks are strong right now, Sultai/4c Reanimator, Ascendency combo and especially UB control would be the 'meta' decks IMO. Mono Red is a bad idea, I think. I've been wrong before though.
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
User avatar
Anatole Kuragin
Anatole Kuragin
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Anatole Kuragin
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 4777
Joined: April 19, 2008
Location: Right under join date, please.

Post Post #5148 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:39 am

Post by Anatole Kuragin »

I'm still a noob at Magic but it seems like Mono-red should be pretty strong against the typical Abzan midrange decks. It can consistently win before a Sorin or Rhino is in the picture with enough burn based on some testing I've done.
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14372
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #5149 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:43 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

List of cards that are tough for mono red to beat:
Silvan Caryatid
Courser of Kruphix
Rhino (comes down on turn three)
Sorin (10 point life swing)
Fleecemane lion
Deathdealer

Its a really bad matchup unless the deck gets a below average draw
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner

Return to “The Arcade”