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Post #7675 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:04 am
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by wgeurts » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:04 am
Mate, I've already reported you and now I see this.
For info he sent: "Ghandi is a disgrace to humans..so are you." Via pm.
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Post #7676 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:04 am
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by Renascence » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:04 am
Nice fella
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Post #7677 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:06 am
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by TierShift » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:06 am
Son's right, epicmafia's are much better.
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Post #7678 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:07 am
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by wgeurts » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:07 am
Tier Shift, it's not only this comment of his. Skim over his posts to see.
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Post #7679 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:08 am
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by chamber » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:08 am
In post 7675 , wgeurts wrote: Mate, I've already reported you and now I see this.
For info he sent: "Ghandi is a disgrace to humans..so are you." Via pm.
Hes already banned. Alt of an old banned user.
Taking a break from the site.
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Post #7680 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:08 am
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by TierShift » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:08 am
Shh wgeurts
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Post #7681 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:08 am
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by wgeurts » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:08 am
In post 7679 , chamber wrote: In post 7675 , wgeurts wrote: Mate, I've already reported you and now I see this.
For info he sent: "Ghandi is a disgrace to humans..so are you." Via pm.
Hes already banned. Alt of an old banned user.
That was quick.
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Post #7682 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:41 am
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by BBmolla » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:41 am
abc sure must love it here to keep coming back so much
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Post #7683 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:32 am
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by Bicephalous Bob » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:32 am
M9++
9 players, 1 random number from 1-60, 2 random numbers from 1-100.
1-20 = J (Protective)
21-40 = I (Investigative)
41-60 = M (Mason)
61-100 = T (Townie. This directly influences scum powerroles.)
J = 1-shot Jailkeeper
JJ = Jailkeeper
JJJ = Jailkeeper + Doc
I = Tracker
II = Cop
III = Cop + Tracker
M = 1-shot Friendly Neighborizer (Friendly Neighbor and Neighborizer)
MM = 2 Seeking Masons (become masons if one targets the other)
MMM = 2 Masons
TT = 2 Mafia Goons, no kills on Night 1 and Night 3
T = 2 Mafia Goons
0 Ts = Mafia Goon + Roleblocker
Roleblocker's block goes through when a Roleblocker and Jailkeeper target each other. 1-shot roles don't lose their shot when roleblocked. Roleblocker can both kill and roleblock.
I need more roles that work with all of the others.
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Post #7684 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:25 am
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by PokerFace » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:25 am
in response to
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6334432
If the mafia have night talk and a night kill every night, they clearly have the edge. The very moment the town informer tells them the king, its over. They will know the town informer told them the truth
Also as long as town does not know who king is, they won't easily be able to protect them from a possible lynch
setup feel heavy scum sided
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Post #7685 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:31 am
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by Cheery Dog » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:31 am
@Bob why are you blocking scum's kill on some nights if you get two T? You're allowing scum to know how many prs town has.
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Post #7686 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:05 pm
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by Bicephalous Bob » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:05 pm
Because town are low on PRs. But maybe the Mafia shouldn't be told their kills don't go through.
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Post #7687 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:36 pm
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by BBmolla » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:36 pm
TTT should have kills blocked first two nights.
TT should be 2 Mafia Goons
T should be Mafia Goon and Mafia 1-shot Roleblocker
0 Ts should be as is
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Post #7688 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:48 pm
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by Bicephalous Bob » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:48 pm
2 Goons vs 1-shot Jailkeeper?
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Post #7689 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:12 pm
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by BBmolla » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:12 pm
1 J should be Doctor.
Edit: eh. idk actually.
Edit2: Currently if you get three Js, it's fucking broken btw
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Post #7690 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:18 pm
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by Bicephalous Bob » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:18 pm
2 goons vs a doc? That's even worse.
The Doc tier is impossible to balance in C9++ since its power heavily depends on the other PRs. How about:
TTT = 2 Mafia Goons, kills made on odd nights don't go through
TT = 2 Mafia Goons + Town Beloved Princess (the day after the BP is lynched is skipped)
T = 2 Mafia Goons
0 Ts = Mafia Goon + Roleblocker
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Post #7691 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:21 pm
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by Bicephalous Bob » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:21 pm
oh edits
jk + doc vs rb is doable
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Post #7692 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:13 pm
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by BBmolla » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:13 pm
Two goons vs. a Doc is pretty fine tbh
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Post #7693 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:40 pm
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by Bicephalous Bob » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:40 pm
not really though
doc is pretty close to a named townie without other PRs
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Post #7694 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:55 pm
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by Bicephalous Bob » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:55 pm
newbie stats say both cop vs 2 goons and jk vs 2 goons are balanced
beloved princess doesn't make any sense
I like the original setup except for TT
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Post #7695 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:00 pm
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by Bicephalous Bob » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:00 pm
first game ending death is vengeful?
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Post #7696 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:05 pm
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by Bicephalous Bob » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:05 pm
or just 5p lylo and 6p mylo
that should work
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Post #7697 (ISO ) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:09 pm
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by Bicephalous Bob » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:09 pm
A named townie!
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Post #7698 (ISO ) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:06 am
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by Bicephalous Bob » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:06 am
yeah none of that made sense
M9++
9 players, 3 random numbers from 1-100.
1-20 = J (Protective)
21-40 = I (Investigative)
41-60 = M (Mason)
61-100 = T (Townie. This directly influences scum powerroles.)
J = 1-shot Jailkeeper
JJ = Jailkeeper
JJJ = Jailkeeper + Doc
I = Tracker
II = Cop
III = Cop + Tracker
M = 1-shot Friendly Neighborizer (Friendly Neighbor and Neighborizer)
MM = 2 Seeking Masons (become masons if one targets the other)
MMM = 2 Masons
TTT = 2 Mafia Lovers
TT = ??
T = 2 Mafia Goons
0 Ts = Mafia Goon + Roleblocker
Roleblocker's block goes through when a Roleblocker and Jailkeeper target each other. 1-shot roles don't lose their shot when roleblocked. Roleblocker can both kill and roleblock.
TT is still
a bit shitty
unresolved
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Post #7699 (ISO ) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:36 am
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by TierShift » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:36 am
Ttt is too townsided imo
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