[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #5675 (isolation #0) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:07 pm

First attempt making a setup.

Mafia Tracker
Mafia Goon
Mafia 1-shot Vanilarizer
Town Roleblocker
Town Cop
Town Bodyguard
Vanilla Townie x4

Any comments?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #5677 (isolation #1) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:17 pm

Ah I see. Any tips to prevent massclaim breaking?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #5688 (isolation #2) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:27 pm

Instead of PM, we use QT here.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #6031 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:34 am

Politics

1x 1-shot governor/1-shot doublevoter (player chooses)
1x tracker/cop (random)
5x VT
1x mafia godfather / 1-shot ninja (depends on the second PR)
1x mafia goon

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #6032 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:42 am

Also, is governor normal role?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #6035 (isolation #5) » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:01 am

Yeah I realized that DV is kinda useless.
The point of the government was to prevent a scumblitz at LyLo, but I also realized that in 9p it's kinda too townsided.

So here's the revised setup:

1x 1-shot governor
1x cop
3x VT
2x goons

How does this look?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #6036 (isolation #6) » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:02 am

Either that or with 1x goon 1x godfather

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #6342 (isolation #7) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:56 am

I thought JK/Doc was the reason why 2of4 was scrapped

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #6347 (isolation #8) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:47 pm

Cop/tracker/RB?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #6636 (isolation #9) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:11 pm

massclaim. gg.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #6689 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:53 pm

5 VTs
1 Red Mafia
1 Blue Mafia

Mafias know the identity of each other
Nightless
Town wins on 1:1:1

Thoughts?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #6694 (isolation #11) » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:21 am

I was just adding a 1:1:1 lylo solution since it's lylo without nightkill. Maybe I can come up with a better conditions but until then, it's gonna be that.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #6732 (isolation #12) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:32 pm

In post 6730, pieguyn wrote:
Bulletproof's Mafia

2 - Mafia Goons
1 - 1-shot Bulletproof SK
5 - 1-shot Bulletproof Townies
1 - Town Doctor (protects from 1 NK)

BPs get notified when hit

i stole the idea from another site. i have no idea if this is balanced

There's a similar setup in EpicMafia.
1 goon, 4 1SBP, 1 SK, 1 doc, night start. Has 50% Town win, 25% Mafia win, and 25% SK win if you want stats.

GuyInFreezer · Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:18 am

So I have a setup that I want it refined.

Russian Roulette

- 5 Town 1-shot Day Vigilante
- 2 Town 1-shot Self Day Vigilante

- 1 Mafia 1-shot Day Vigilante
- 1 Mafia 1-shot Self Day Vigilante

* Self Dayvigs will not know that they are self dayvigs.
* Mafia will know if they're self or not.
* Nightless

What I want to know the most is if this setup can be broken in any way.
And then balance, etc if possible. Probably too swingy to be called balanced but meh
(And before you guys go "lol how do scum win this", both times I ran this in this site were both scum win, with one of them being marathon with 6v1 variant)

The one I modded in micro not-so-long-time-ago mafias didn't know if they were self dayvigs or not.

GuyInFreezer · Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:53 am

Ah, I forgot some more stuffs.

1. Everyone MUST submit via PM.
2. There is a grace period after every shot. No one can shoot during the grace period.

Here's the recent game of that setup.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=59255

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #7574 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:18 pm

All right.
So it should be balanced by a player size.
Thanks for the comments!

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #7868 (isolation #16) » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:00 pm

First of all it would be too confusing for people who are playing mafia for the first time.

GuyInFreezer · Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:11 pm

2% Lacking

13 Players with 3 mafia
Mafia will receive one random PR from the following; rest goes to town.

PRs include

Follower
Voyeur
Vanilla Cop
Universal Backup

How does this one look

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #8409 (isolation #18) » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:21 pm

In post 8407, Ether wrote:Okay, a follower and a tracker are pretty much the same for balance purposes: they're looking for kills. A voyeur is very close to useless even in closed setups: basically they just tell people what sorts of roles are in the setup, in very vague inconsistent terms, and in an open setup you already know what's going around every night. A vanilla cop is, uh...it can catch fakeclaims, but in this setup there really isn't any reason to fakeclaim, and that's pretty much all it's good for. The vanilla cop and voyeur can at least be named townies, but again, scum has a fakeclaim that weakens even that.

Trackers/followers are fairly weak, vanilla cops and voyeurs are nigh-useless, and that means the universal backup will also get something useless 2/3rds of the time. That's before getting into the fact that only three of those roles even go to town. This town needs a major boost.

Eh it was worth a try bc the theme of the setup was only using the roles that are somewhat lacking.

I could add a reporter