Mini 451 - Totally Awesome Mafia, Game Over

[A Papaya]

Haha, right.

And I don't think I've ever seen someone give up and NOT get lynched.

And how many times have they been scum? (Just curious)

About 1/5 times...which isn't that bad of a ratio.

I've only played mafia a few times, but I've read alot.

[PJ.]

Lowell - 2(The Highland Sage, NabakovNabakov)
Nekka-Lucifer - 7(Stewie, crashtextdummie, ~N9V~, A Papaya, Off The Mark, Hjallti, Lowell)
Off The Mark - 2(Nekka-Lucifer, bobbyplump)

Not Voting - (Aimee)


With 12 alive, it takes

7

to lynch.
That's a lynch

Nekka- Lucifer comes out firing suspicions, then the tables turn. The mob has had enough of his suspiscion. He tries to deflect the anger with emotion but it doen't work. He swears he is totally a townie, and he was exactly who he said he was. Too bad you couldn't tell he was honest until he was hanging from the Totally Awesome Gallows.

Nekka-Lucifer, Totally Awesome Townie, Lynched Day 1

It is now Night 1 send in your night actions

Night 1 will end on Monday Night due to my graduation and work and the vacation of 2 of our players and it would be unfair to end night before they even get back. I will give then about 24 hours after their arrival to send in night choices if they have any.

[PJ.]

The Sun thing risers over our Totally Awesome Town with the Totally Awesome Waterparks and Arcades. Everyone gathers by the Totally Awesome Bar which is by the Totally Awesome Gallows. You notice two are missing. You split up and look around. You find The Highland Sage shot to death in his leaving room. The group looks further. Lowell is dead by way of stab wounds.

Lowell, Totally Awesome Townie, Killed night 1
The Highland Sage, Totally Awesome Townie, Killed night 1

It is now Day 2
With 9 alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

[A Papaya]

Ahh Crap, 3 townies dead and no Mafia. This is, IMO, a good time to do something about OTM, who initially made a strong point for lynching NL. Can someone do an analysis of his posts? I would, but I'm pressed for time.

[CrashTextDummie]

Vote: A Papaya

FoS: bobbyplump

[Off the Mark]

Well that sucks, and I know I'm going to look bad today. I knew something was wrong at the end of day 1. When N-L made his "I give up" speech and I asked him for his motivations, I was thinking he wouldn't post that (about wanting everyone to lynch me today) unless he was just misguided town.

I don't want to lead the town astray again today, so I'm not going to make a huge argument here. I'll just say I'm suspicious of the following: N9V, Hjallti, and Stewie. I'll lay out my reasons eventually, but I want to see what others think first.

[~N9V~]

Shit, looks like mafia and SK.

Vote A Papaya

You seem over sincere about the lose.

[~N9V~]

*loss.

[CrashTextDummie]

What makes you think we have an SK, ~N9V~?

[A Papaya]

2 people died tonight, so it isn't a bad guess.

Anyhow, I may have been a little to crusader, but what I said makes sense (I think.) Now, I guess I can understand why OTM suspected NL. I do think that Hjallti is innocent, as he's new and I think lynching him will be almost as bad as lynching NL was.

CTD, you voted me with no explanation at all.

[Aimee]

Vote: A Papaya

FoS: bobbyplump

Why?

[Aimee]

Earlier in Day 1, I said:

I think personally that Nekka is acting scummy. Nonetheless (without sounding harsh, Nekka), I believe the wagon is being exploited by some. Nekka is an easy target. I totally understand the reasons of Stewie, Off the Mark, and A Papaya. However, N9V and CTD, care to explain why you are voting Nekka? They seem like the bandwagoners here.

I just read the posts of all those voting against Nekka. Off the Mark, yes, you do look a bit scummy for leading the mega crusade against him. However, you did give reasons for your votes. Stewie as well, gave adequate reasons for me.

That leaves A Papaya, CrashTestDummie, Hjallti and N9V. Hjallti, for now I am unsure of what to think. CrashTestDummie gave no reasoning whatsoever for his vote against Nekka. N9V and A Papaya also focused heavily on the vote hopping allegations, with A Papaya jumping between Hjallti and N-L. I feel they were all merely bandwagoning.

As a result:

FoS: ~N9V~, A Papaya and CrashTestDummie

and

IGMEOY: Hjallti

[Hjallti]

I feel bad about this of course. I thought Nekka (if town) would do the same is me: realizing that the winning was not about surviving the game, but let scum that, and thus see that all that defensing was harming town, but he didn't. I overlooked the fact that he was only 14. If I were 14 I would have kept defensing.

The bad thing about day 1 is that all the conversation revolved around Nekka and me, due to OtM pressuring us. In fact, we don't know much about the other 7 alive anyway.

Before going further I have some stupid newbie questions:

Is this right?

It is now Day 2
With 9 alive, it takes

6

to lynch.

What kind of possibilities do we have with those 2 nightkills on townies?
(Sk+mafia)
(two groups of mafia)

[Hjallti]

I feel bad about this of course. I thought Nekka (if town) would do the same is me: realizing that the winning was not about surviving the game, but let scum that, and thus see that all that defensing was harming town, but he didn't. I overlooked the fact that he was only 14. If I were 14 I would have kept defensing.

The bad thing about day 1 is that all the conversation revolved around Nekka and me, due to OtM pressuring us. In fact, we don't know much about the other 7 alive anyway.

Before going further I have some stupid newbie questions:

Is this right?

It is now Day 2
With 9 alive, it takes

6

to lynch.

What kind of possibilities do we have with those 2 nightkills on townies?
(Sk+mafia)
(two groups of mafia)

[Off the Mark]

Could be mafia plus Vig. Vig may have been convinced that Lowell was scum. I must admit, I was pretty suspicious of him after he voted for me, and then hammered Nekka out of the blue.

[~N9V~]

Stabbing is usually the result of an SK kill, CTD. Aimee, what do you mean that I was heavily focused on the vote-hopping? I only was on one or two people the whole first day.

[Off the Mark]

Just realized something. I think we are in lynch or lose here. If there are 3 Mafia and an SK, that means there are only 5 town alive. Yikes!

[~N9V~]

No, cuz the SK is a lone player. That is if there is an SK.

[Off the Mark]

But if we lynch wrong, then Mafia kills 1 at night we are down to 3 townies, 3 Mafia, and 1 SK. Then if SK also kills a townie at night it would be 2t/3m/1sk. Does the game continue as long as the SK is alive?

[bobbyplump]

Pardon my newbness here, but OtM, what is vig? Is that a villager that can take someone out when they die? If that were the case, wouldn't they have been identified as a vig instead of totally awesome villager?

I've only played one game with two families of mafia, and that was a 20+ person game. Is it common to have two families in a 12 player game?

My first thought was indeed SK. Now who would that be?

Alls I know is that Aimee was out on vacation until the 10th. And then the mod makes a post that we won't start again until the 11th, giving those absent, "to send in night choices if they have any."

Maybe it's not fair to bring that in, but to me it makes Aimee look like an SK.

FOS: Aimee

[bobbyplump]

Oh, and Aimee, what is IGMEOY? I'm not familiar.

[Off the Mark]

@bobby

Vig = vigilante. A pro-town player who can kill at night. Tries to kill mafia or SK.

IGMEOY = "I've got my eye on you", sort of a small FOS.

I think the mod was just covering his bases. If he hadn't put in the delay, then Aimee and Highland Sage would be confirmed townies. However, Aimee has been playing quite cautiously, that is not a bad FOS. Heh, IGMEO: Aimee and Papaya

[Off the Mark]

@CTD

You were suspicious of bobby on Day 1 because he defended Nekka, right? (maybe it was something else, it would be nice if you'd explain if so)

Now Nekka is confirmed innocent and you are still suspicious of bobby. Care to explain?

[NabakovNabakov]

I'm kind of torn between ideas of vig and SK. The fact that a player was stabbed definitely indicates an SK, but why would the SK or the mafia go after Lowell? He was generally lurkerish and unhelpful and put the hammer on an innocent townie. I was personally convinced he was scum and would have voted for him soon after day 2 started. It doesn't seem like good scum strategy to NK somebody likely to be lynched anyway. I could totally see a vig thinking he/she had a sure thing with Lowell (even though it's sometimes considered bad behavior to vig the first night)

Oh, and OTM. SK could equal smaller mafia. Why are we so sure it's three?

[Off the Mark]

You're right, it could be 2 mafia, I was just applying the 25% rule. Maybe it's 4 mafia vs a town with vig and cop and doc, we just don't know at this point.