Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

Wisdom · Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:39 pm

Well I'll make sure you get zero support then. You're not touching my townreads.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:40 pm

In post 1146, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1143, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Yes it does make sense.

I want to see what Dave
thought
he saw that made NPAU Mason. That's all I'm asking for this part of my case.

That would involve discussion about who might be a mason. Can you seriously not comprehend that no such discussion should happen?

No it wouldn't because that

mason link to NPAU doesn't exist anymore. NPAU got lynched and was VT.

Read what I'm writing.

Wisdom · Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:41 pm

@Mala

Without looking, I can tell he's exactly like me. Tunnely, stubborn, fixated on little things that he thinks solve the mystery. It's like looking at myself. As scum, I imagine he'd mirror that like I do.

I'll have a look.

Malakittens · Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:42 pm

Although I keep forgetting that BBT townslipped pretty hard at the start of Day 2. WHY CAN'T I GET THIS PARANOIA GONE?!?!

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:43 pm

In post 1153, Malakittens wrote:Although I keep forgetting that BBT townslipped pretty hard at the start of Day 2. WHY CAN'T I GET THIS PARANOIA GONE?!?!

Did I?

Malakittens · Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:44 pm

yes you did.

Wisdom just ignore me - everytime I start going on and on about BBT being potentially scum remind me of the townslip~

Wisdom · Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:44 pm

In post 1151, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
No it wouldn't because that
mason link to NPAU doesn't exist anymore. NPAU got lynched and was VT.

Read what I'm writing.

He would still talk about someone being potentially a mason. Still a no-go. Still not happening.
The mason read he got was not necessarily only because of connection with npiau anyway.

Wisdom · Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:44 pm

What townslip?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:47 pm

In post 1155, Malakittens wrote:yes you did.

Wisdom just ignore me - everytime I start going on and on about BBT being potentially scum remind me of the townslip~

What was it? I'm intrigued.

In post 1156, Wisdom wrote:
He would still talk about someone being potentially a mason. Still a no-go. Still not happening.
The mason read he got was not necessarily only because of connection with npiau anyway.

No he wouldn't, because he

explicitly stated

that his mason read was in

direct relation to NPAU.

That is what caused him to 'reconsider' the wagon for a very brief moment.

Wisdom · Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:49 pm

In post 1024, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Uct and NPAU may be good wagons also. These are based on reading Scripten's ISO now that he be dead.

I guess you mean his mentioning npiau here?
Eh. Not sure this is necessarily a townslip.

Malakittens · Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:50 pm

In post 1024, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Uct and NPAU may be good wagons also. These are based on reading Scripten's ISO now that he be dead.

Wisdom · Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:53 pm

In post 1120, davesaz wrote:

Interactions between two other players made it look like one of them could be mason with NPAU

BBT, this is what dave said.

It does not in any way rule out that dave could have had thoughts about that player being a mason in general, with the connection to npiau being only secondary.

Yes, it was that possible connection that made him want to unvote. But it does not rule out a general belief about the person being a mason regardless.

I do not get why I have to explain all this when it's obvious.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:57 pm

In post 1161, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1120, davesaz wrote:

Interactions between two other players made it look like one of them could be mason
with
NPAU

BBT, this is what dave said.

It does not in any way rule out that dave could have had thoughts about that player being a mason in general, with the connection to npiau being only secondary.

Yes, it was that possible connection that made him want to unvote. But it does not rule out a general belief about the person being a mason regardless.

I do not get why I have to explain all this when it's obvious.

With NPAU. Not alone. With NPAU.

There is no indication at all about him being a stand-alone Mason and I'm not sure why you're inferring that. If Dave flips scum, you're next,

I want to see what he thought he saw.

Malakittens · Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:58 pm

holy shit shut up BBT

Malakittens · Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:59 pm

No really, stop asking what someone's thought process of the masons are. It's not town-motivated. Just leave it be, please.

Wisdom · Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:00 pm

You are starting getting ridiculous. You are arguing about wording there. Yes, he's talking about the connection there because that's what's relevant to why he unvoted. Nowhere does it say that outside of that connection there were no thoughts about the person being a mason.

Dave is not getting lynched, so if you want to lynch me, try it now instead.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:00 pm

Jesus Christ.

I'm going to lose my fucking shit any second now.

Wisdom · Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:03 pm

Kay. Do this: Leave this forum for one hour, then come back, read your posts, realize how ridiculous your arguments are, and vote Peabody with me.

All this if you're really town of course.. otherwise, feel free to start fake-raging about how you've caught the scum in the details and how we're all too dumb to comprehend

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:03 pm

Dave said that there was no link there and that's why he revoted.

So clearly he doesn't think there is a Mason link anymore. Given he doesn't think there is a Mason link anymore, which he must do because he revoted NPAU, I see no problem with exposing this link that doesn't link to a Mason anymore.

Wisdom · Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:05 pm

Why can't you just let it go and look at the total of dave's play instead of focusing on such a small detail?

goodmorning · Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:07 pm

I'd reeeeeeaalllyyyyyy like it if Toffee would answer my question, yeah?

davesaz · Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:08 pm

Wisdom, Mala, etc.: Have a look at the beginning of day 3 in this game.
I will leave it to you to draw your own conclusions.

BBT, if you're town you really need to change your tack. Like really quick.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:08 pm

Ah, you have no reply to that one? You may feel it is a small detail, I do not.

I have looked at his play. I presented a case on him, it contained many different points and not just this point we're currently discussing.

I chose to discuss it point by point because I felt Dave was purposely ignoring sections of my case.

Once I am satisfied with his replies to this part of my case, I will move onto the next part.

PEdit - Meta, yay!

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:10 pm

Dave, your read on the Mason was in direct relation to NPAU, correct?

Wisdom · Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:12 pm

Yeah, you got me, I have no reply to that one. You win.

@dave As annoying as he might be, I promise this is most likely town behavior. Ignore him for now until he understands he's being ridiculous. Focus on the actual scum.