Open 571- Pick Your Poison Game over

[GuyInFreezer]

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You don't get any.

2.04

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to lynch.

Matsumi Sisters (3):

aphix, Alchemist21, reinoe

reinoe (3):

Matsumi Sisters, Doublade, Fluminator

aphix (2):

Flames of Disaster, Krystal Bald

Krystal Bald (2):

Majiffy, Anatole Kuragin

Not Voting: SXTLHGaiden

Deadline

Deadline is October 15th at 12:00AM EST. This is in (expired on 2014-10-15 00:00:00)

Boring Mod notes

Matsumi Sisters will be staying in this game.
Flames of Disaster have requested replacement. Searching for one also.

[Fluminator]

I wish people would read the reasons posted why we should let Matsumi live today, and stop saying it's because I trust her.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Your reasoning is awful. You're saying she'll be conftown or confscum tomorrow. Ten seconds using your brain you should be able to come up with at least one scenario where that would not be the case.

[Fluminator]

As Flum says, worst-case scenario is that the scum shoot the same person Matsumi does and we lynch the vig. So basically, in the worst-case scenario we're still doing what you want to do today and lynching Matsumi, but we're also forcing the scum to make a shitty kill. So please can the instant gratification attitude for ten minutes and use your fucking brain. This is the right play. We're not lynching Matsumi.

Is this the scenario you were talking about?

[Anatole Kuragin]

yeah

[Anatole Kuragin]

it doesn't add up. scum don't have to make a shitty kill, they just have to put forth enough doubt that we WIFOM over whether they did or not

[Fluminator]

If there are two kills, Matsumi is vig. If someone else is vig, they take out Matsumi.
If there is only 1 kill tomorrow, we take out Matsumi. That's my opinion.

[SXTLHGaiden]

you missed the case of "if matsumi hits scum" but otherwise this is what i was saying

[Anatole Kuragin]

But if matsumi IS telling the truth, we're going to have another dead PR at her hands too. I don't see the risk paying off

[Majiffy]

If there are two kills, Matsumi is vig. If someone else is vig, they take out Matsumi.
If there is only 1 kill tomorrow, we take out Matsumi. That's my opinion.

Meanwhile scum NKs and gets a twofer.

[Krystal Bald]

Matsumi needs to shoot Doublade tonight. No excuses. If Doublade doesn't die, Matsumi is scum.
Majiffy continues to be obvious scum. If anyone else wants to start a wagon there I'll move our vote over in a heartbeat, but we can't really afford to push a wagon by ourselves when the two biggest wagons are the claimed vig and someone I'm 9999% sure is town (reinoe).

why is jiffster obvious scum?

Have you read his posts

[Anatole Kuragin]

can you just tell me

[Krystal Bald]

Majiffy voted reinoe for a shit reason d1, continued tunneling reinoe for the entire day, and ignored literally everything else going on in the game. All this until randomidget was lynched, when Majiffy puts on a HUGE show of not knowing why or how the guy got lynched. Looking through Majiffy's iso I found the following two quotes, which are about 24 hours apart:

VOTE: majiffy
Last few posts seem to be trying to deflect attention away from himself.

I'm starting to understand why there's a wagon on you.

Was there even a viable case given?

WHY DID WE NOT LYNCH REINOE.

HEADS WILL ROLL FOR THIS.

The first quote was pre-lynch, and the second was post-lynch. The second post is fake as fuck, considering he a) knew there was a wagon on rm, and b) apparently understood why it was there.
Then there's his vote on us, which is pretty shitty! I've been calling him scum all game, pretty much alone, and have voted him a few times. Saying that we're avoiding voting him in favour of anyone else is complete bullshit when I've already tried building a wagon on Majiffy to no avail.

[Alchemist21]

Majiffy voted reinoe for a shit reason d1, continued tunneling reinoe for the entire day, and ignored literally everything else going on in the game. All this until randomidget was lynched, when Majiffy puts on a HUGE show of not knowing why or how the guy got lynched. Looking through Majiffy's iso I found the following two quotes, which are about 24 hours apart:

VOTE: majiffy
Last few posts seem to be trying to deflect attention away from himself.

I'm starting to understand why there's a wagon on you.

Was there even a viable case given?

WHY DID WE NOT LYNCH REINOE.

HEADS WILL ROLL FOR THIS.

The first quote was pre-lynch, and the second was post-lynch. The second post is fake as fuck, considering he a) knew there was a wagon on rm, and b) apparently understood why it was there.
Then there's his vote on us, which is pretty shitty! I've been calling him scum all game, pretty much alone, and have voted him a few times. Saying that we're avoiding voting him in favour of anyone else is complete bullshit when I've already tried building a wagon on Majiffy to no avail.

I've been reading back through Majiffy's ISO to try and figure out why people were getting scumreads on him, but I never even noticed this duality until now. This is why people need to explain their reads instead of just telling people "read their ISO".

[Anatole Kuragin]

that actually convinced you alch?

[Alchemist21]

Not completely, but it helps me better understand why people are suspecting him.

[Fluminator]

My reason for Majiffy was similar. More specifically, both Reino and Majiffy tried to make the people on the midget wagon look as scummy as possible.
The midget wagon wasn't really that suspicious in my opinion. At least not to the extent Reino made it out to be. How would the town on it have known someone would quick hammer.
@Krystal: this is really important to me, are both your heads in agreeance that Reino is town?

[Krystal Bald]

@Krystal: this is really important to me, are both your heads in agreeance that Reino is town?

I'm not sure... she mentioned being suspicious of reinoe over the fact that he was complaining that Gaiden wasn't vigged by Matsumi. Looking over our skype convo we mostly just have stuff about aphix and Majiffy. You'll have to wait til she gets off work.

[caledfwitch]

can we please just lynch reinoe
even if hes replacing out his presence was toxic and didnt help town at all

[GuyInFreezer]

[Majiffy]

887 is a huge misrep.

Krystal is claiming im scum because i didnt consider the "case" on rm - i still disagree there was one - was viable. Just because rm made one post i thought was scummy doesnt give viability for lynch nor does it advocate support of the wagon.

Furthermore, krystal has been calling me scum for much longer. Why dont you pry into those reasons? Shes sweeping them under the rug because its just a chainsaw for reinoe.

[Doublade]

can we please just lynch reinoe
even if hes replacing out his presence was toxic and didnt help town at all

the sorriest

[Fluminator]

Meh, let's just lynch Reino. He ragequit anyway. Atleast Krystal and Majiffy are playing the game.

[Alchemist21]

So basically you want to lynch a now-inactive player instead of a horrible fake-claim.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Flum your posting looks really bad. the only reason I'm not voting you is you seem to be inexperienced. just getting that out in the open