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[Alchemist21]

prod received
also blah
i can't seem to make a decent strategy where we don't have an IC
it would pretty much only work if matsumi hits scum, otherwise, we would lynch them tomorrow.

Now here's an interesting post. What plan of yours would require an IC and be so reliant on Matsumi = scum?

[SXTLHGaiden]

So, if an IC claims, then any remaining PR's know the exact setup.
So if IC + vig, then matsumi is confirmed if they hit scum or there are two kills. So, shooting randomly they have 3/8 chance of hitting scum if a VT elects to die to lynch today.
If IC + JK, JK saves IC. we will see at most 1 kill, so logical play would be to lynch matsumi tomorrow.
if IC + tracker, tracker tracks whoever and we lynch matsumi tomorrow.
this allows the non-ic pr to know setup without outing themselves.
the issues come when there is no IC.

[Alchemist21]

If there's a vig, what's to keep the mafia from targeting the same player we want dead if the target is town? If a vig is in the game, and it's not Matsumi, should the real vig target Matsumi or hold their fire? Targeting Matsumi is a sure scum kill in that case, but it's wasting a shot on scum that can be lynched. If they hit a different scum, it helps validate Matsumi's vig claim. If they don't shoot, the mafia is saved from a NK for the night.

The jailkeeper wouldn't be a bad idea, but would it be better to protect a confirmed townie rather than trying to stop the night kill? Actually, I can see this as opening a window for scum to fakeclaim jailkeeper later on since they can just say they protected the IC each night while the scum team never even targets the IC.

The tracker would be useless if Matsumi is scum and isn't lynched today, since the scumteam should just use Matsumi to perform the kill.

[Fluminator]

If there is a real vig, they should shoot Matsumi. It's better for the vig to shoot the confscum. At least in my opinion. I gave reasons why at some point in my debate with Reino.
I don't think any power role should out today.
VOTE: Reino
My two other scum reads are Majiffy or Reino.

[Alchemist21]

If your goal in not lynching Matsumi today is to get more info, then you should probably vote Majiffy to pressure him instead of Reinoe since Reinoe may not even care to respond at this point.

[Matsumi Sisters]

hi. I'm getting completely owned by classes (I thought I'd be able to catch up over the weekend but it turns out I spent literally the entire weekend finishing this assignment) so I haven't been able to catch up. I will be able to catch up tomorrow guaranteed (I don't have any assignments to do).

[Krystal Bald]

VOTE: Krystal BaldVOTE:

She's avoiding voting me in favor of

anyone else

while soft-supporting a wagon on me.

Scum afraid of blowback when I flip town.

i actually don't have much of a read on you majiffy.
nik thinks you are scum i know that, if thats not a given

-mantis

[Krystal Bald]

hi. I'm getting completely owned by classes (I thought I'd be able to catch up over the weekend but it turns out I spent literally the entire weekend finishing this assignment) so I haven't been able to catch up. I will be able to catch up tomorrow guaranteed (I don't have any assignments to do).

is this pie?

[Krystal Bald]

Matsumi needs to shoot Doublade tonight. No excuses. If Doublade doesn't die, Matsumi is scum.
Majiffy continues to be obvious scum. If anyone else wants to start a wagon there I'll move our vote over in a heartbeat, but we can't really afford to push a wagon by ourselves when the two biggest wagons are the claimed vig and someone I'm 9999% sure is town (reinoe).

[Anatole Kuragin]

Matsumi needs to shoot Doublade tonight. No excuses. If Doublade doesn't die, Matsumi is scum.
Majiffy continues to be obvious scum. If anyone else wants to start a wagon there I'll move our vote over in a heartbeat, but we can't really afford to push a wagon by ourselves when the two biggest wagons are the claimed vig and someone I'm 9999% sure is town (reinoe).

why is jiffster obvious scum?

[GuyInFreezer]

Pretty Picture

You don't get any.

2.03

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to lynch.

Matsumi Sisters (4):

Anatole Kuragin, aphix, Alchemist21, reinoe

reinoe (3):

Matsumi Sisters, Doublade, Fluminator

aphix (2):

Flames of Disaster, Krystal Bald

Krystal Bald (1):

Majiffy

Not Voting: SXTLHGaiden

Deadline

Deadline is October 15th at 12:00AM EST. This is in (expired on 2014-10-15 00:00:00)

Boring Mod notes

Matsumi Sisters will be staying in this game.
Flames of Disaster have requested replacement. Searching for one also.

[Majiffy]

i actually don't have much of a read on you majiffy.

Majiffy continues to be obvious scum.

Can we lynch this thing now?

[Anatole Kuragin]

hydra dissonance

[Anatole Kuragin]

Not that I'd be opposed to lynching her anyways, to be clear. Just not for that.

[Majiffy]

Oh I never even realized it was a hydra.

[Majiffy]

Now I kinda wanna lynch it even more.

[Anatole Kuragin]

but katsumoo twins has four whole votes

[Majiffy]

Yeah but Krystal Bald is really clearly scum as shit.

[Majiffy]

[Fluminator]

If your goal in not lynching Matsumi today is to get more info, then you should probably vote Majiffy to pressure him instead of Reinoe since Reinoe may not even care to respond at this point.

I have a stronger read on Reino than Majiffy and I have doubts they would be scum together.

This town sucks. And by "town" I mean all the people with a townie PM, who at this point are actually refusing to lynch scum but enthusiastically lynched another townie on D1 without even stopping to think. And now you idiots are swallowing this fake-claim trash hook line and sinker. I want nothing to do with this garbage.

The townies in this game are beneath me and the moderation is beyond atrocious.

@mod,

I ask to be replaced.

This post was particularly damning. He seems to be implying he knows more about the game state then he should. How does he know town lynched Midget. The only reason midget got lynched was because Matsumi quick hammered. His post implies he thinks I'm town because this post he was fine.

Welcome Titus.

Then I unvoted. Then he has the rage at town. He seems to think I am town, even though he was calling me scum.

@Krystal: do both your hydra heads agree that Reino is town?
@Majiffy: Why is Krystal obvious scum?

[Majiffy]

She's avoiding voting me in favor of

anyone else

while soft-supporting a wagon on me.

Scum afraid of blowback when I flip town.

[Majiffy]

+ other reasons that are also readily available in my ISO!

[Anatole Kuragin]

Alright so we have one camp that wants to lynch Kastumoto because of the awful claim, general scummy behavior, etc.

And one camp that won't lynch her because "she's conftown tomorrow" (even though that's not remotely true)

For the sake of this town, I will suggest that we compromise and go back to the Krystal Bald wagon.

VOTE: Krystal Bald

[Fluminator]

Lolwut? How is that a compromise? I want Reino lynched.

[Anatole Kuragin]

It's a compromise because we still get to lynch a scummy annoying dissonate hydra and you guys get to see your trust in the hirohito twins mature to fully bite you in the ass.