Board Games Mafia -- Game Over!

[Ectomancer]

Twito is either Godfather or town and the role he claimed, but not any other scum role. We need to look elsewhere for the scum roleblocker. Also, is Twito in his boost, or block phase tonight?

[Ectomancer]

Actually I researched my own question. He is supposedly on his boost phase tonight. That means he should be able to boost our vig, or our cop past a roleblock from scum. Of course, it's a random choice because if you choose wrong, the scum could kill the boosted player and block the other. We cant choose the Vig's target, because then scum doesnt know whether to kill him or not. Vig might be picking town, might be picking scum, we dont want scum to know for sure which it is.

[Thok]

@DOS-I feel like you've somewhat missed my point. I don't expect you to have read games specifically looking for mass claim issues. I expect you to have read other games on the side (out of interest in particular players or out of general love of mafia) and incidentally noticed issues like mass claims, fake claims, etc. Heck, I'll add that you've seen other people claim in this game.

I should put my vote where my mouth is and

vote DOS

@IH-If you are town, please stop pinging my scumdar. Why are you distracting from the DOS wagon?

Twito is either Godfather or town and the role he claimed, but not any other scum role. We need to look elsewhere for the scum roleblocker. Also, is Twito in his boost, or block phase tonight?

You could be insane. You could be naive. You could be insane. You could be naive.

I'll even throw in a you could be scum for good measure. And for really good measure I'll throw in the possibility of a scum godfather roleblocker (although the last is unlikely and requires Twito to act weirdly).

Also, why are you assuming Twito's role alternates? Why are you assuming that Twito's claimed boost mechanic acts like you think it does, especially since we have at least one known siutation when it doesn't?

Side note: Town feels like it has too many power roles, especially given what I know about Glork; I feel that's a decent argument in favor of claimed townies being town.

[Glork]

Day Four: The Third Vote Count:

DragonsofSummer 2 (Sefer, Thok)

10 alive, 6 to lynch.

[Nightfall]

I have an idea of who I would prefer to vig, but I'll see how this day progresses before I finalize anything.

[IH]

THok do you think this is the wrong time to have such conversations? If I don't survive the night, then I at least want to have my thoughts out. Duh, this isn't really role related, so I'm going to talk about it.

[Thok]

THok do you think this is the wrong time to have such conversations? If I don't survive the night, then I at least want to have my thoughts out. Duh, this isn't really role related, so I'm going to talk about it.

I'm wondering why you need to feel the need to have such discussions at all?

If you think Ecto is scummy for how he's played, then say so. But "Ecto's a claimed cop who's lived through the night, and that confuses me even though there's a known explanation for it" isn't a big help.

I could see the possibility of Ecto and Twito being scum together, and both lying about their role powers (that would be a situation in which scum were Twito,Ecto, Thesp, BM and probably one more [which at this point is likely DOS]). But Ecto still being alive isn't really good evidence for that theory.

[HackerHuck]

I don't really see any harm in having this discussion and it might come to some good. To me it's beneficial to not focus our discussion on just one or two potential targets, since if Nightson's looking at one obvious choice a roleblocker will have an easier time targeting him.

I'm fine with a DoS lynch, but I don't really see a need to rush into it. I don't like the fact that Twito's boosting has no reasonable explanation. Have we seen any evidence that it might give someone a benefit during the day like extra votes?

I'd really like to hear what Zindaras has to say about all of this - and Fritzler, if he has been following along. Both have been silent all day if I recall.

[DragonsofSummer]

I'm going to be away from tomorrow through Sunday, at a Gaming convention in Phoenix.

[Glork]

I am toying with the idea of outright replacing people whom I have to prod more than three times in a single game-day.

I am also toying with the idea of instituting a deadline for today. Get to it, people.


Zindaras and Fritzler have been prodded. EDIT: Twito, too.

[Ectomancer]

Hmm, I should be voting DOS as well.

vote DOS

[IH]

guys this is ridiculous.

unvote, vote:DoS

[HackerHuck]

guys this is ridiculous.

unvote, vote:DoS

I agree with all of this, but I don't really want to see the day end without hearing from everyone else on the matter.

[Glork]

Twito has not picked up the prod I sent him three days ago. I will begin searching for a replacement immediately.

Upon finding a replacement, I will institute a one-week deadline.

[Glork]

CrashTextDummie replaces Twito, effective immediately.


Today will end in one week. On Saturday, June 23, at 4:45 PM EST, night will fall. Failure to reach a majority at deadline will mean no lynch.

[CrashTextDummie]

Hi.

[Sefer]

Welcome, CTD. There's been some confusion about your role (which was claimed a good long time ago); care to take a crack at explaining it better than Twito did?

Glork's last 3 posts imply that Zindaras and Fritzler did pick up their prods but haven't checked in yet.

I still feel DoS is the best lynch. I'd still like to hear why some people think Twito (now CTD) might be the scum roleblocker, since no one really answered post 1474.

[CrashTextDummie]

Not having read any of the game (except a skim of Twito's post to see how much he claimed already), here's what I can tell you about my role:

I am Chutes and Ladders.
I can either roleblock or motivate ("boost") a player at night.
I am not supposed to know what effect a boost has.
My target is not notified of having been roleblocked OR boosted.
I blocked Olio (aka Sefer) N1, boosted Jalyn N2, blocked Sefer N3.

Anything else?

[IH]

Can you control when you block or boost?

[Zindaras]

From what I've read, DoS feels like scum. He was one of the "scum-votes" in the WldHrt-wagon and the Kison-wagon (the scum-votes are votes that are the favourite positions of scum to be on a wagon).

I do want people to look at post 84 though and see if they feel that BM was bussing a buddy in that post.

[CrashTextDummie]

Can you control when you block or boost?

It is my choice whether to block or boost.

Could someone please summarize all the claims? I'm working on a read-through.

[Thok]

I still feel DoS is the best lynch. I'd still like to hear why some people think Twito (now CTD) might be the scum roleblocker, since no one really answered post 1474.

If either you or Ecto is scum with Twito, then your argument for why Twito can't be scum falls through.

If you are scum with Twito, then there's no risk for him claiming to block you. If Twito's scum with Ecto, then Ecto is lying about being a cop and thus didn't have to be blocked last night; the only risk Twito took was claiming to block you at night 1. [This wasn't that much of a risk; Twito claimed day 2 after the masons (April 6th), Ecto (april 6th), and Fritzler's comment about me (April 4th), which basically left you being either an SK/rival mafia, a vig, or a townie, or there being a lot of power roles in the game]. In either case, the cop investigation doesn't give more evidence [if you are scum with Twito, Ecto's insane, if Ecto is scum with Twito then Ecto is lying].)

There's even a crazy situation where Ecto is a scum cop of some sort (probably scum role name cop).

Basically my issue with Twito/CTD is that his role claim is bizarre, and we have a lot of power roles for a game this size, IMHO. (And yes, I'm probably being hypocritcal, since I'm not going after Fritzler for having a bizarre role claim.)

[IH]

me and Zindy are masons.

Fritzler was an unknown who joined Thok's alignment.

Ecto is a cop


errrr.... what else

[Nightfall]

Sorry guys, Im going through a school week from hell here,
3 exams to study for and 2 projects to write up.
I'll contribute when I can though.


P.S. I'm for a DOS lynch

[Twito]

How can you even think about replacing me???!
Got back to Finland yesterday haven't slept for 3 days and I raelly gotta get some sleep it's all so hectic please just wait a while longer..
Sorry.