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Post Post #9200 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:48 am

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Also; finally the climax of the game! After we hit 364, hooray!
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Post Post #9201 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:49 am

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In post 9199, Majiffy wrote:Meanwhile BBScum claims SK-poisoning-town to lead a lynch on a townie and secure victory for scum.

Because how the fuck does BBSK know for certain they've poisoned town or who the scum is?

Mmkay children.



The real SK would have counterclaimed BBScum in this case and [REDACTED] the entire scum team at this point.
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Post Post #9202 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:50 am

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Not if SK wins by surviving to endgame. Which most SKs do.
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Post Post #9203 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:52 am

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In post 9202, Majiffy wrote:Not if SK wins by surviving to endgame. Which most SKs do.


The SK has 100% good reason to be anti-scum right now, because he's outnumbered 3:1.

If I recall correctly, SKs win by winning 3p Lylo, not by end gaming. Correct me if this is wrong.
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Post Post #9204 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:53 am

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It's wrong.
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Post Post #9205 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:56 am

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You arent wrong. The real sk may not cc if they fear scum get lynched too fast and they wind up vs 2 town. Or if they arent BP.

Sk wins when they are the only one left alive or nothing can stop that from happening
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Post Post #9206 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:57 am

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Lots of things need to happen before we lynch anyone.

The first thing is bbm claiming his full sk role and night actions
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Post Post #9207 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:58 am

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In post 9194, Majiffy wrote:Or we could just lynch Molla and sort a lot of shit with the one flip.

If he flips SK, we've removed an anti-town kill at night and sort Y&B. If he flips mafia, we know Y&B is confirmed mafia.

Win-win.


Most of all, we don't have time for "shit-sorting". That's why BB makes logical sense to claim SK today, he knows that town is in a catch-22 and needs him. If this happened yesterday, I... Would be fine with lynching molla on the condition that the scum team scumclaims (like they already have).


What is the use of "sorting" me? Is that in any way useful in determining all 3 scum before we get screwed over?

I mean, you're not thinking rationally; The Goat cleared me yesterday (a double town result) and we already know that Goat is scum.

I have another analogy which I refrain to use. Either way, lynching BBmolla is a very irrational (and dumb) play.
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Post Post #9208 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:59 am

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In post 9205, ActionDan wrote:You arent wrong. The real sk may not cc if they fear scum get lynched too fast and they wind up vs 2 town. Or if they arent BP.

Sk wins when they are the only one left alive or nothing can stop that from happening



Why would SK 'fear scum get lynched too fast'?
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Post Post #9209 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:02 am

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In post 9205, ActionDan wrote:You arent wrong. The real sk may not cc if they fear scum get lynched too fast and they wind up vs 2 town. Or if they arent BP.

Sk wins when they are the only one left alive or nothing can stop that from happening

And, it's 1 SK in a 28 player game. The SK is guaranteed to have an overpowered role and BB's role (fake claim) fits the bill.

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Post Post #9210 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:04 am

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In post 9207, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 9194, Majiffy wrote:Or we could just lynch Molla and sort a lot of shit with the one flip.

If he flips SK, we've removed an anti-town kill at night and sort Y&B. If he flips mafia, we know Y&B is confirmed mafia.

Win-win.


Most of all, we don't have time for "shit-sorting". That's why BB makes logical sense to claim SK today, he knows that town is in a catch-22 and needs him. If this happened yesterday, I... Would be fine with lynching molla on the condition that the scum team scumclaims (like they already have).


What is the use of "sorting" me? Is that in any way useful in determining all 3 scum before we get screwed over?

I mean, you're not thinking rationally; The Goat cleared me yesterday (a double town result) and we already know that Goat is scum.

I have another analogy which I refrain to use. Either way, lynching BBmolla is a very irrational (and dumb) play.



Goat is *not* scum.

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Post Post #9211 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:07 am

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If ns says he got a shard today, BB is the SK. To think otherwise is dumb or scum.

We're not lynching the SK with three scum alive even if he's lying about having killed town. Scum will be shooting at him to strip whatever bulletproofness he has, and he has to shoot/lynch them to avoid being endgamed.

Also, he probably knows exactly who the scum are at this point in the game. I suspect there's a significant amount of truth in his claimed ability (minus the percentages), since he'd be expected to at least perform investigations if we knew he got a shard. He's likely performed investigations in addition to his claimed action on AD.

That also makes sense given his indifference for lynching BC or AD. He probably knows they're both scum (because I'm pretty sure they are).
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Post Post #9212 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:08 am

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Post Post #9213 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:10 am

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It pains me to be agreeing with Y&B.
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Post Post #9214 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:10 am

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Yeah I'm gonna need Molla to out all of his actions since D1 in a nice clear concise list without any bullshit or added reasoning. Just listed actions by night.

And a full roleclaim.
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Post Post #9215 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:11 am

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That makes sense; BBmolla being an SK would have no reason to give us his real investigations. Given that his role is expected to be broken, an ability to investigate is quite probable.


If BB is the SK as he claims, we should at least get his investigation results spilled out here, and including his suspected scumteam. SK clearly has more information than the town. Town needs the SK for a chance of winning, while the SK needs the town for his own chance of winning.



Either way, screw you scumteam, we don't want you to win. Boo.
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Post Post #9216 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:12 am

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Ive been an sk twice recently and made it pretty far both times, being endgamed by scum both times. I know their fear. If bbm is scum and gets lynched and say scum kill who bbm poisons and then town lynch another scum suddenly things arent so clear.

Goat only said you didnt have a shard. Thats not clearing you per say.

Also kagami if me and bc are both scum are you happy just saying town has no protective role at all?
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Post Post #9217 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:13 am

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They have me, and poison doc is barely protective.
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Post Post #9218 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:13 am

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It makes little sense that the setup would be arranged specifically to prevent SK kills, but not Bo7 kills.
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Post Post #9219 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:16 am

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In post 9216, ActionDan wrote:Goat only said you didnt have a shard. Thats not clearing you per say.


Stop trying to widen the mislynch pool.
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Post Post #9220 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:17 am

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Besides the fact that I think bo7 probably has a poison ability anyway you would be a counter to bo7 kills by your own claim.

Pedit you arent getting lynched today derpface
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Post Post #9221 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:18 am

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In post 9219, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 9216, ActionDan wrote:Goat only said you didnt have a shard. Thats not clearing you per say.


Stop trying to widen the mislynch pool.

Stop trying to artificially clear yourself.
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Post Post #9222 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:19 am

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I don't think you really believe that BB inferred as Bo7 that ns had gotten the last shard because of the mhork kill, nor that he just guessed that ns performed the goat kill.

I would like ns to confirm that, but I'm pretty sure he's right. I didn't get a shard and it sounds like jiffy didn't either.

Egg's track on BB has likely given us a route to victory where we were otherwise screwed.
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Post Post #9223 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:19 am

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Post Post #9224 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:21 am

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In post 9190, ActionDan wrote:Leftover is... me bc and egg. And youd have to pigeon hole 3 scum into these three slots. For the town members alive id like to ask if this makes much sense when both me and beast claimed and soft claimed roles related to poison d1 and egg cced aronis.


Let's say, let's say ActionDan,

From our point of view, let's say you're scum.

You pretended to be your scum partner's role. The safest fakeclaim was to counterclaim a partner.

You have another scumrole that we do not know of.

Suddenly, things aren't so clear.

That would also imply that scum have more hidden power roles, which makes sense, because it would be very depressing if the scum had bullshit roles like "Poison Doctor" or "One Shot Shard Thief" for the entirety of their team.
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