Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[beastcharizard]

Vote Count

Goodmorning: hephaestus, nopointinactingup, shinobi, BlueBloodedToffee
hephaestus: Peabody
Metal Sonic: Goodmorning
nopointinactingup: Scripten, Metal Sonic, Huntress, Malakittens, davesaz
Josh_B: Josh_B
shinobi: ucitron00

Not voting:
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-04 20:45:00)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Pea, Josh and Uct - Put your votes to use please.

[Malakittens]

Kek

Yeah the GM shouldnt kick off imo.

His last post didnt read town to me, but im biased in a way im guessing.

[davesaz]

I already said I wasn't sure, and the posts since I revoted have made me less sure. But hopping to GM feels like hopping to town. I think I'll watch the thread and clock.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I already said I wasn't sure, and the posts since I revoted have made me less sure. But hopping to GM feels like hopping to town. I think I'll watch the thread and clock.

Why are you town-reading GM?

[Malakittens]

Scum GM would have already voted Npau to save herself

[BlueBloodedToffee]

And town GM wouldn't? I don't agree with that logic.

[Malakittens]

Bbt im really confident that GM is town.
Plain and simple.

Npau knows better than to reference an ongoing game. So why he did that, got away and got townread for it is bizarre

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't think he is being town-read for referencing an ongoing game. His recent posting looks like it's coming from town.

Mala, not long ago you thought GM was scum. I'm not sure how much credit I can give your confident read.

Let me re-read your thoughts on GM from reads-list.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Well, that was quick.

You don't even mention why you're town-reading GM. You bracket her with Huntress, explain your Huntress town-read and say nothing about GM.

[davesaz]

I already said I wasn't sure, and the posts since I revoted have made me less sure. But hopping to GM feels like hopping to town. I think I'll watch the thread and clock.

Why are you town-reading GM?

GM's reply to one of my posts. Town is way more likely to give that reply than scum. In fact, I'm nearly certain that GM is town because of a single sentence. No, I'm not going to quote it now.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

GM's reply to one of my posts. Town is way more likely to give that reply than scum. In fact, I'm nearly certain that GM is town because of a single sentence. No, I'm not going to quote it now.

Hmm, how vague. From what I can see, GM has only replied to your posts twice, and I don't see how you could town-read her so strongly from what she said.

You're going to have to elaborate. I don't like this read, your explanation for this read or your recent posting.

If I thought I could get a wagon going on you in time for deadline, I would vote you. Unfortunately, I don't think we have enough time left.

[Shinobi]

I'll try to be around for the absolute end of day if a lynch doesn't happen, but I might not be. I think GM is the higher percentage scum lynch between these two targets.

I already said I wasn't sure, and the posts since I revoted have made me less sure. But hopping to GM feels like hopping to town. I think I'll watch the thread and clock.

Why are you town-reading GM?

GM's reply to one of my posts. Town is way more likely to give that reply than scum. In fact, I'm nearly certain that GM is town because of a single sentence. No, I'm not going to quote it now.

Considering that your townread's life might depend on your quote, I'd say you've got a lot of incentive to quote it now.

[Huntress]

The only person I would consider switching to is davesaz but I still think NPAU is more likely to be scum. I've looked at GM but I can't see what you are seeing there.

I'm around for another couple of hours but probably not much longer as the deadline is at nearly 4am my time.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Few hours left.

This NPAU wagon is bad. Funny thing is, I think it's mostly town-driven

GM has kept her vote out of sight. She is keeping quiet and not drawing much attention to herself. Her vote just looks too safe, she knows at this point of the Day, her vote needs to mean something and it accomplishes nothing on MS.

[Huntress]

She had a very similar voting pattern in the last game I played with her and she was town there. She only moved her vote once in Day One and ended the day voting alone.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Meta.

[Huntress]

Yep.

[Josh_B]

If you want me to put my vote to good use, You guys should be thinking more realistically.
I was hoping to hear back from Heph to dig into his case more deeply, but I realized scum was probably already out in the open.

these votes back and forth between GM and NPAU are bad. REALLY bad.

I can understand cases of NPAU {or} GM but {NOT} cases of {NPAU} and {GM}.

I'll move my vote to anyone that has made a case for NPAU and GM both being scum...

Unfortunately, it's probably too late for that, but I don't plan on lynching Town.

Here's an example

lol

the real reason is

i am going to entertain lynching from gm/npau today

But they are picking a mountain out of a molehill. Besides, if my read on npau is right, naturally his partners will try to save him. Well, partner, since gm is immobilized right now by my scum catching magic lasso

VOTE: MetalSonic

[Peabody]

I'm not moving my vote until closer to deadline.

I will, however, use my vote to make a lynch happen. I'm doubtful we're getting a red flip today unless we can get Heph.

The worst thing that can happen right now is a no lynch. We've had three weeks of discussion, and if that ends in no vote, we get another two weeks for discussion on the same topics, plus one town dead.

As I said, i will place my vote on the biggest wagon in two to three hours time (still plenty of time before deadline).

[Peabody]

If I absolutely had to pick between NPAU and GM... I don't know.

GM's quick wagon and derail makes it seem she's town. But her lack of effort earlier in the game and emotional defense appears somewhat scummy.

NPAU... I just don't see the NPAU case. Vote hopping isn't scummy to me at all.

I don't want to lynch either, personally.

[Peabody]

My town reads are on the NPAU wagon. A couple of people I have doubts about are on GM.

So NPAU wagon is winning as my likely vote candidate.

[Huntress]

It's not just vote hopping, it's the making stuff up to justify his votes. Check my ISO for the case against him.

[beastcharizard]

Vote Count

Goodmorning: hephaestus, nopointinactingup, shinobi, BlueBloodedToffee
hephaestus: Peabody
Metal Sonic: Goodmorning, Josh_B
nopointinactingup: Scripten, Metal Sonic, Huntress, Malakittens, davesaz
shinobi: ucitron00

Not voting:
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-04 20:45:00)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Josh & Pea, move your votes on GM please. MS and Heph are not viable lynches at this time

Your vote looks really bad Josh. Seriously.

I can understand cases of NPAU {or} GM but {NOT} cases of {NPAU} and {GM}.

I'll move my vote to anyone that has made a case for NPAU and GM both being scum...

Unfortunately, it's probably too late for that, but I don't plan on lynching Town.

First part reads as contradictory to me...am I reading it wrong?

Second part doesn't make sense. It's too late to jump on board NPAU or GM...so you jump on a wagon that had one previous voter?