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Post #7400 ISO ) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:42 pm
Post by BBmolla Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:42 pm
Good Cop, Bad Cop
1 Mafia Framer
1 Town Sane Cop
Cops are not told their sanity.
Might work better 7p, debating.
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Post #7401 ISO ) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:46 pm
Post by ika Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:46 pm
i would make the goon a backup framer.
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Post #7402 ISO ) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:53 pm
Post by BBmolla Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:53 pm
Good Cop, Insane Cop
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Cops are not told their sanity. Cops get a pregame report and Framer gets a pregame frame. @thesupertriomusical on Instagram, come see it if you’re in LA area, I wrote it!
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Post #7403 ISO ) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:05 pm
Post by ika Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:05 pm
so cop headstart?
its not bad, i think this would be a nice game to test out in micro/marathon
cops just flip cop on death as well right?
i assume yes but just want to make sure
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Post #7404 ISO ) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:46 pm
Post by BBmolla Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:46 pm
Yes.
Cop headstart
and
Framer headstart, that's important.
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Post #7405 ISO ) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:47 pm
Post by BBmolla Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:47 pm
This makes sure a day 1 mafia lynch won't completely fuck over left over scum and allows for more than one report before mylo.
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Post #7406 ISO ) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:30 pm
Post by sthar8 Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:30 pm
In post 7397 , wgeurts wrote:
Bodyguard
Politician
Roles:
Lawyer: Visits one person each night, that player turns up innocent on inspection.
Framer: Visits one person each night, that player turns up guilty on inspection.
Bodyguard: Visits one person each night, if that player is night-killed he has a 50% chance of dying.
Governor: Once per game may reset a vote count, the person with the highest votes before the reset may no longer be voted on that day.
Judge: The judges vote counts as 2:
Cop: Visits one person each night, receives the result "Innocent" or "guilty".
Insane Cop: Visits one person each night, receives the opposite result he should get. Looks like cop to self and others on death and in role PM.
Politician: Changes sides every day. Starts as town and doesn't join Scum chat if scum.
This is a collection of the eight worst roles ever conceived that are still technically usable, plus six VTs. Not to mention catastrophically swingy. And potentially breakable by massclaim, if the town gets lucky.
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Post #7407 ISO ) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:28 pm
Post by BBmolla Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:28 pm
I think we already acknowledged that, we're in the process of fixing it
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Post #7408 ISO ) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:43 am
Post by ArcAngel9 Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:43 am
MOD's & reviewers, We need your blessing on this...
I am planning on running Pop corn Mafia under large theme game, Pop-corn mafia is an open setup and a night less game. Please see the
Wiki for more details.
Considering the popularity this setup has.. We are confident that this game would be more fun for larger audience (19 or 21 players at least)
If the game is for 19 players - 13 Town & 6 scum
If the game is for 21 players - 14 Town & 7 scum.
Please let us know which of the above setup is more balanced to run for large game.
Bork will be co-modding/back-mod for this game. And please feel free to give any suggestions that improves this idea. Thanks a lot!!!!
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Post #7409 ISO ) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:39 am
Post by wgeurts Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:39 am
In post 7402 , BBmolla wrote: Good Cop, Insane Cop
1 Mafia Framer
1 Town Sane Cop
Cops are not told their sanity. Cops get a pregame report and Framer gets a pregame frame.
This is amazing, this needs to be run ASAP. Darn those stupid 3 month no-hosting rules.
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Post #7410 ISO ) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:20 am
Post by wgeurts Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:20 am
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Post #7411 ISO ) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:07 pm
Post by BBmolla Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:07 pm
Nice.
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Post #7412 ISO ) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:00 pm
Post by wgeurts Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:00 pm
Trying to get Mith to allow me to host it under 3 months of memership
He probaly won'y allow me but would any else like to host it?
I believe this could become a really great setup.
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Post #7413 ISO ) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:09 pm
Post by wgeurts Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:09 pm
Someone hosting it here:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6270092
Really interested to see how the setup works.
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Post #7414 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:21 am
Post by wgeurts Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:21 am
Werewolf roles:
2 Werewolfs
1 Seer
Mafia roles:
2 Mafia Goons
1 Cop
Roles are randomly assigned to the 13 players, each player gets 1 role from each list; 1 "Werewolf role" and 1 "Mafia role". Players can therefore be;Werewolf Mafia Werewolf Cop Werwolf Doctor Werewolf Towny Seer Mafia Seer Cop Seer Doctor Seer Towny Shaman Mafia Shaman Cop Shaman Doctor Shaman Towny Civilian Mafia Civilian Cop Civilian Doctor Civilian Towny Both Mafia and Werewolves have a factional kill. Werewolf Mafia: Werewolf Towny/Cop/Doctor: Civilian/Seer/Shaman Mafia: Civilian/Seer/Shaman Towny/Cop/Doctor: Werewolves: Seer: Shaman: Civilian: Mafia: Cop: Doctor: Towny:
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Post #7415 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:43 am
Post by Siveure DtTrikyp Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:43 am
Yuck.
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Post #7416 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:12 am
Post by wgeurts Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:12 am
I makes it alot more strategic, without unbalancing everything.
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Post #7417 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:21 am
Post by Siveure DtTrikyp Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:21 am
Thats intensely swingy even before the game starts
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Post #7418 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:30 am
Post by wgeurts Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:30 am
However it isn't everbody has 2 roles, it's bassicaly two 2 Mafia, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor games at the same time. The Doctor can only stop a mafia faction kill, the seer only a werewolf faction kill. Same goes for the cop and his counter part.
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Post #7419 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:31 am
Post by wgeurts Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:31 am
It's not 2:11 or 9:2:2
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Post #7420 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:33 am
Post by wgeurts Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:33 am
You could be a towny trying to kill the scum and a werewolf, trying to kill civilians.
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Post #7421 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:34 am
Post by Siveure DtTrikyp Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:34 am
It CAN be 2:11 in the case where mafia = werewolves.
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Post #7422 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:38 am
Post by Siveure DtTrikyp Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:38 am
Like, it's basically a swingy multiball setup except in the weird edge cases where the scum factions blend, which are just insane.
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Post #7423 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:37 am
Post by wgeurts Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:37 am
In post 7421 , Siveure DtTrikyp wrote: It CAN be 2:11 in the case where mafia = werewolves.
It CAN turn into 9:2:2 with no town power.
It can be stupid as hell if there's one mafia werewolf - they have to win by themselves?
Pedit: Multiball generally needs you to kill the other team anyway. There's nothing unique about that.
The chances of both people being werewolf mafia is 2 out of 169. A Werewolf Doctor would be Playing against civilians and helping townies. Town power will always be there.
Also, there are 2 faction kills per night, follow the cop wouldn't work as both doctor and seer would have to protect the cop from any-nightkills. Shaman only blocks werewolf faction kill, opposite for doctor.
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Post #7424 ISO ) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:49 am
Post by Siveure DtTrikyp Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:49 am
2/169 isn't 0. You have to consider the possiblity of that happening.
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