NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER
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TSO knows how terrible Csareo is on Day1 and he also knows that he was town in that game. I simply don't understand why TSO's maintaining a long interaction with Csareo – he must have known that by getting involved in that would increase the "noise" in the thread. It's definitely anti-town and – in my opinion – scummy too.
There's something else which is merely an intuition. What if both of them are scum(s) and their Day1 is purely intentional?-
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@Aneinen- I hate how you keep dropping my name, but I agree with this statement, although I disagree with your conclusion.
I simply don't understand why TSO's maintaining a long interaction with Csareo – he must have known that by getting involved in that would increase the "noise" in the thread
TSO trying to buddy with me early on and make others town read me is suspicious, and a bit confusing. I noticed he did something like this in another game, which I would love to talk about, but can't because it is ongoing.
@Goodmorning- I'll get to your questions later, once I have more available time
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In post 206, goodmorning wrote:In post 187, Nero Cain wrote:So when I first read the game I thought Csaro was a lil' to "try hard" buthis wagon went rather fastand that worries me but I'd prob be ok with his vig.
What? I don't think he got above L-10 at any point. How is that "fast?"EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6256542#p6256542]post 248[/url], Nero Cain wrote:I don't know if 561, 563 and 565 make me want to climb in the fetal position and cry or pl the fuck out of wegurts.
So in the future wegurts will join the game?
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In post 250, TobyLoby wrote:In post 237, Nero Cain wrote:A wagon on a town player going fast is an excellent indication of that player being town and scum piling on. + just 'cause a wagon is scum lead it doesn't mean all the scum are on it. So why are you feigning ignorance here? Also flipping your mind on someone is in no way alignment indicative.
You are using a hypothetical. Let's talk about what is happening in this game right now. Are you town reading Csareo? I didn't say you said all scum were on the Csareo wagon anywhere. If you think the wagon on Csareo is scum lead, who do you think is leading it then and why?
When I first read the thread there was this rapid fire "csareo is scum" and that made me pretty uneasy. So, who do you think has been the counter to him? I could see maybe Muffin scum hoping on. Yes, I think Csaro is probs town. Why have you not given a read on him?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Also that theory that I'd be scum and come in the thread, give my honest opinion on Csaro when I could have just ignored him or called him town/scum is pretty fucking ridiculous.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Well...that's actually scum 101, Nero-
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What, admitting that my read on him changed?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 187, Nero Cain wrote:So when I first read the game I thought Csaro was a lil' to "try hard" but his wagon went rather fast and that worries me but I'd prob be ok with his vig.
This is what you said about him.
Walk me through why it is such an unlikely scum comment from you?-
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Because, really the only thing I see is that it's mildly unlikely for you to be scumbuddies. But that's all I get out of it.-
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baring multiball, I'd know his alignment and thus would have no need to be wishy washy.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Well...first off multiball is a pretty safe assumption, and second off being wishy-washy is actually pretty solid scum play.-
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I'm catching up.
Csareo, it bears repeating you are an out-and-out moron. Please stop presuming you know anything about me. You don't. Shut the fuck up."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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In post 263, Thor665 wrote:second off being wishy-washy is actually pretty solid scum play.
maybe so but I can be plenty wishy washy as town.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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So, reading from my last post, I'm mostly getting nothing but town reads. I kind of feel like goodmorning is trying to paint csar as scummy rather than show a genuine scum read though. And my gut is telling me keep an eye on Aneninen. So there's that I guess.
In post 263, Thor665 wrote:Well...first off multiball is a pretty safe assumption
Why? Also, if you're right, isn't Nero more likely town for seeming to genuinely assume there is no evidence for it?-
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In post 265, Nero Cain wrote:In post 263, Thor665 wrote:second off being wishy-washy is actually pretty solid scum play.
maybe so but I can be plenty wishy washy as town.
I'll agree with that, though it doesn't affect my stance.
In post 266, Egg wrote:In post 263, Thor665 wrote:Well...first off multiball is a pretty safe assumption
Why? Also, if you're right, isn't Nero more likely town for seeming to genuinely assume there is no evidence for it?
Why? Because there are 21 players in this game.
And I could easily argue that he's more likely scum for trying to act like there's no reason to think that because scum are the only ones with legit evidence about the question and he's trying to cover for that knowledge but overplayed his hand.-
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Spoiler: goodmorning quotes
Getting town vibes on goodmorning.
Nero Cain is similar to other stuff I'm seeing from him, but I don't have a good feel for whether that aspect of his posting is alignment indicative in this game. So I need to spend more time partitioning the information.
What is this multiball thing? Multiple scum teams?
I think what I've seen from Thor looked like town, but would have to re-read to confirm.-
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@ NERO:
In post 252, goodmorning wrote:In post 206, goodmorning wrote:In post 187, Nero Cain wrote:So when I first read the game I thought Csaro was a lil' to "try hard" buthis wagon went rather fastand that worries me but I'd prob be ok with his vig.
What? I don't think he got above L-10 at any point. How is that "fast?"
In other news: goofy is flying well below radar, dave is taking safe stances, Garmr still feels weird to me, and several have failed to post.EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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And yes, multiball means multiple scumteams.EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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Look, I have no interest in interacting with Csareo again now or for the rest of his game, but he's spreading bullshit about me and tonight I'm going to address it.
If anyone who's not Csareo has questions for me I'll answer them too."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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In post 250, Aneninen wrote:TSO knows how terrible Csareo is on Day1 and he also knows that he was town in that game. I simply don't understand why TSO's maintaining a long interaction with Csareo – he must have known that by getting involved in that would increase the "noise" in the thread. It's definitely anti-town and – in my opinion – scummy too.
So, you're assuming TSO only talks to csareo to generate noise? When has he started doing so and has he done all along?
In post 266, davesaz wrote:Getting town vibes on goodmorning.
Why? What do you think of csareo/tso?
VOTE: TSO
Because the csareo wagon is shit and this one's decent?
I hugely dislike keeping the vote on csareo early game.
Oh and I have no idea where my vote was nor what the VC is at.
Closer looks will be taken at garmr, TSO, anen and Nero.-
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In post 270, TierShift wrote:
In post 266, davesaz wrote:Getting town vibes on goodmorning.
Why? What do you think of csareo/tso?
I only said gm was a vibe. Don't see scum going into that much trouble or detail. Content can certainly sway me on that.
I see csareo/tso as likely to be tvt, but that is not a firm position yet.
I do plan to probe, but I'm not sure yet where the probe should go. So taking the opportunity to pick low hanging fruit. It's the way I normally approach hunting.-
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In post 269, T S O wrote:If anyone who's not Csareo has questions for me I'll answer them too.
My question is why are you bothering to address this when no one is sheeping his logic on your meta, which is your expressed issue with his stuff.
I will agree with you - I don't think he knows your meta from Adam.
Spare us the wall and play the rest of the game?-
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In post 271, davesaz wrote:I only said gm was a vibe. Don't see scum going into that much trouble or detail. Content can certainly sway me on that.
Let me quote gm's sig for you:
EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT
I see csareo/tso as likely to be tvt, but that is not a firm position yet.
Why do you think it's tvt? What in csareo's behaviour makes you think so? What in TSO's behaviour makes you think so?
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