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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:36 am

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In post 197, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 191, Csareo wrote:Why would you be okay vigging me?

Well why should I think you are town?

That train of logic is detrimental. Why should we think you're town?
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:37 am

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In post 196, TobyLoby wrote:Nero, do you think Csareo's wagon was scum motivated?

If he's town then yes.

Remind me of your read on him.

In post 195, T S O wrote:Thanks for the moral support, guys, I am officially the grumpiest fuck ever to walk the halls of these forums. :/

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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:38 am

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In post 200, Csareo wrote:
In post 197, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 191, Csareo wrote:Why would you be okay vigging me?

Well why should I think you are town?

That train of logic is detrimental. Why should we think you're town?

'cause I have a green pm.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:38 am

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In post 199, T S O wrote:that's nice

Please answer these questions.
That is not my intention. I'm trying to be respectful and understanding while asking you questions.
It isn't me who's blowing things out of proportion. I am curious, on why you think we're in some sort of fight?

Can you show me the accusation or illogical question you have in mind?

TSO, is your RVS vote now a serious vote?
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:39 am

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quick reads list


Town
csareio- town
Tso-t(csareio made tso easier to read.)

null town-
thor

null-scum
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tobyloby.

VOTE: tobyloby

Her attitude in 168 irks me and that 198 was the finisher. She passively pushing the idea that Csearios wagon was scum motivated while not admitting to it out load.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:40 am

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Is that the whole case on tobyloby? Right now I would love to hear a better alternative to a TSO lynch.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:41 am

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In post 118, Csareo wrote:Thanks for your cooperation GM.

What cooperation?

In post 119, Csareo wrote:Sorry, tiershift is tunneling me, and you a little, but I found there was more reasoning to your questions.
Even if we disagree on the conclusions.

Tunneling usually implies that you think the person in question is Scum.

Have I indicated such at any point?

Egg is weirdly disconnected.

In post 126, Goofyd00d wrote:Considering 4 is the meta for almost garunteed, I would say 5 people in a hood contains a scum, and maybe even multi factions.

Subversion of site meta is one of the easiest ways to make a Normal more interesting. Again, I'm not planning on drawing any alignment-based conclusions just based on whether someone's in a Neighbourhood.

Muffin. That post ain't shit.

In post 134, TobyLoby wrote:goodmorning, do you think Csareo is scummy, maybe townie, or null? I'm getting an everything from you.

It's pretty Null. I've seen this particular brand of play before, though I haven't played with this particular player, and it is not indicative imo. At least, not yet. Could be getting there.

In post 176, T S O wrote:I somehow end up in a large pissing fest with -someone- in every goddamn Large I participate in d1 and it makes it really fucking unfun.

Why don't you just ignore him then?

I'd find it understandable.

Got any weird feelings on anyone so far?

In post 187, Nero Cain wrote:So when I first read the game I thought Csaro was a lil' to "try hard" but
his wagon went rather fast
and that worries me but I'd prob be ok with his vig.

What? I don't think he got above L-10 at any point. How is that "fast?"

In post 195, T S O wrote:Thanks for the moral support, guys, I am officially the grumpiest fuck ever to walk the halls of these forums. :/

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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:42 am

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What cooperation?

Answering my questions without fighting.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:42 am

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I can't believe I'm saying this but we aren't lynching TSO today.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:43 am

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In post 201, Nero Cain wrote:If he's town then yes.

Remind me of your read on him.


I don't get it. You first insinuate Csareo may be scummy, but then you follow it up by insinuating that you're not voting for him because the wagon (which means it looks scummy). So you follow this up by voting someone not on the wagon you just insinuated was scummy and then playing iffys on Csareo's alignment.

None of that makes sense.

VOTE: Nero
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:44 am

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I can kind of envision Nero's actions as being scummy.
My other top reads are GM and TSO. I'll take my vote off of TSO once he answers my questions.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:44 am

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In post 207, Csareo wrote:
What cooperation?

Answering my questions without fighting.

The main reason I'm not fighting with you is because you haven't ruined shit for me personally yet.

TSO, however, is fairly justified.

Answer the rest of my post? There was other stuff @you.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:44 am

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Csareo deciding to target the one person who looked to maybe be defending him looks kinda townie. Why TSO out of all others? I can see maybe scum buddies doing it, but it's way too early for that and their interaction makes me go nah.

And I never insinuated people on the Csareo wagon are scummy. On the contrary, I think some of those being antsy and backing off of it are being scummy.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:45 am

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In post 210, Csareo wrote:I can kind of envision Nero's actions as being scummy.
My other top reads are GM and TSO. I'll take my vote off of TSO once he answers my questions.

Top reads? I assume you mean scumreads? Explain them, and explain why you're trying to appease TSO in this post.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:48 am

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Gamr can be town.

Nero, why Toby?

TSO, JDodge has you beat on grumpiness.

Goodmorning, you probably have that impression because I have csar and TSO both as town and they are kind of dominating the thread. And my top two scum reads are inactive (Pere, muffin)
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:49 am

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In post 213, goodmorning wrote:
In post 210, Csareo wrote:I can kind of envision Nero's actions as being scummy.
My other top reads are GM and TSO. I'll take my vote off of TSO once he answers my questions.

Top reads? I assume you mean scumreads? Explain them, and explain why you're trying to appease TSO in this post.

If you first tell me how I'm appeasing TSO. I am pretty confident the dudes scum.
It's just if I push it any longer I'm going to be hanged.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:51 am

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Have I indicated such at any point?

IMO you have, and others may agree.
Obviously you wont.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:52 am

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In post 215, Csareo wrote:If you first tell me how I'm appeasing TSO. I am pretty confident the dudes scum.
It's just if I push it any longer I'm going to be hanged.

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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:53 am

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In post 215, Csareo wrote:
In post 213, goodmorning wrote:
In post 210, Csareo wrote:I can kind of envision Nero's actions as being scummy.
My other top reads are GM and TSO. I'll take my vote off of TSO once he answers my questions.

Top reads? I assume you mean scumreads? Explain them, and explain why you're trying to appease TSO in this post.

If you first tell me how I'm appeasing TSO. I am pretty confident the dudes scum.
It's just if I push it any longer I'm going to be hanged.

"If you only answer my questions I'll surely unvote you." If that's not appeasing I don't know what is.
I'll repeat the questions too:
Explain your read on Nero.
Explain your read on me.
Explain your read on TSO.
Explain why you would unvote a scumread just for answering questions.

P-EDIT: Please show me where I've said you're Scum. I'll wait.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:55 am

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In post 212, TobyLoby wrote:Csareo deciding to target the one person who looked to maybe be defending him looks kinda townie. Why TSO out of all others? I can see maybe scum buddies doing it, but it's way too early for that and their interaction makes me go nah.

And I never insinuated people on the Csareo wagon are scummy. On the contrary, I think some of those being antsy and backing off of it are being scummy.




So you think the people unvoting him and not the people still on it are scum?

In post 168, TobyLoby wrote:Egg, soon.

In post 152, T S O wrote:There were no productive wagons at the time - the only thing I did/felt like doing was mildly ripping the piss out of you.


this did not happen during that time.

is your vote on csareo for real now? you didn't do the "MY RVS VOTE IS SERIOUS NOW" neon blinking lights indicator.


So at this time it seems you were undecided on tso what do you think of him?
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:37 am

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In post 219, Garmr wrote:So you think the people unvoting him and not the people still on it are scum?


Everyone I thought was being scummy about Csareo I questioned when I came into the thread. The person who is currently being outright scummy about it I am voting.

Backing off is the wrong wording. It's a combination of wishwashiness on how they feel about his alignment, finding weird unnatural ways to maybe call him town, or finding potential excuses for his behavior.

In post 219, Garmr wrote:So at this time it seems you were undecided on tso what do you think of him?


I never made it clear what I thought about TSO in that post. I don't know about TSO's alignment though.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:55 am

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Blugh large games move too fast.

Csareo is town due to this post.
In post 93, Csareo wrote:
In post 90, T S O wrote:Idiocy confirmed!

PEdit: Sweetheart, I'm not sure if you were reading or not, but I was actually the one calling you town.

I don't like how you and garmr are trying to rack me up as the VI.
It seems like you're trying to set me up as your buddy, but be immortalized in the town bloc once I flip town.

Not sure about anyone else atm.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:01 am

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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:14 am

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Aaaaand fck the shyt, I had been nearly finished with my catchup when I misclicked and it's gone.
Fortunately, there are not too many things to post about.
Csareo is being Csareo right on Page2. And he goes on like that which is a null and basicly, most of the posts are related to him. In the game I linked he did the very same.
That post-pair from Nero, calling Csareo not-town and town in his next post is a WTF.
Also, need we care about those Day1/2 stuffid claims?

Unfortunately, I have no real reads yet. Mostly because of Csareo, who has been drawing away the focus of the game.
However,
@Those who're scumreading them: what's the case against TSO? What's the case against Toby? These things might be based upon real content but I'm simply too tired to distill the very little real content out of the Csareo–respond-to-Csareo–Csareo–another-respond–Csareo... rondo.
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And, because it's very in now, I'm also doing my full-claim:

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