Micro 392: The Assassin has regained control of the village!

[Scripten]

OK I'll play your game. Why FoS me for sharing the same view as you?

In your last 2 posts you went from

"I never said you are trying to be scum while making me look like your buddy" to

"I did say that but for a different reason"
We weren't talking about anything but my read on Naz.

But I'm curious. Where have I tried to seem scummy? And how did it envolve you?

No.

You still don't get it. I am not accusing you of trying to appear scummy. I am trying to say that you were setting up a precedent such that if Naz flipped scum, I would be scum.

SoS said that your behavior/logic was scummy and that I might have been implicated as your scumbuddy by process of elimination. However, due to my reactions to your logic, he decided that such a case was unlikely.

I FoS'd you because your actions were scummy AND you reacted to being called out on them in a scummy manner.

[GrayFoxxxx]

he said that your posts leans towards you trying to implicate me as your scum partner

[GrayFoxxxx]

*lean

[GrayFoxxxx]

Likewise, this is pretty misrepresentativ of SoS's statement.

He said that your posts lean toward you trying to implicate me as your scum partner (Assuming you are scum) and said that my reaction and push back suggest my innocence.

FoS: Grayfoxx

So now you are switching FoS reasons. I can't even. I'll let the rest of the town make there own opinion.

[Scripten]

he said that your posts leans towards you trying to implicate me as your scum partner

He said that your posts lean toward you trying to implicate me as your scum partner

(Assuming you are scum)

and said that my reaction and push back suggest my innocence.

Can you please not partially quote me? Important bit in bold. That is, were you to flip scum, this could be seen as a way to protect your actual scumbuddy by implicating me instead.

My FoS on you was not limited merely to the points I'd brought up in that post. Your behavior

as a whole

suggested that you should be put under suspicion. Stop trying to weasel your way around this with pedantry.

[GrayFoxxxx]

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT SAB SAID. I'm done.

[Aronis]

If a player does not meet the minimum requirement for activity by the end of today. They will be modkilled.

[Scripten]

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT SAB SAID. I'm done.

Alright, this is getting us nowhere.

I want more from Quinoa, Nikanor, and Mantisdreamz.

Quinoa:

Explain your reads, please. Why do you expect the scumteam to be what you do?

Nikanor:

You wanted Naz executed. Said it would change. Has that happened? If so, who is your vote on right now?

Mantisdreamz:

You've been pretty quiet. Since you hold a hammer over each of us today, don't you think you should be engaging with the other players more? Would you scumread another player if they were king and weren't contributing to the game?

[Mantisdreamz]

@script.. yea maybe. depending on how they looked.


..gonna catch up tomorrow

[Nazarene]

Gray can you please stop responding to scripten, since he is not listening, clearly.

Scripten, read my post 351. Now.

Uses meta way to strongly here. Makes me look at Script as poss. scum if Naz is scum.

Is NOT the same as

Greyfoxx is looking at Scripten as Nazarene's partner.

He only says 'makes me

look at

as

possible

scum' and '

if

Naz is scum'.
I even underlined the differences for you. Don't pretend they do not exist.

GF doesn't have any case on Scripten being scum except for one comment made Nazarene. And he still hasn't made any case on Scripten being scum except some OMGUS to being pressed on how the Sripten and Naz are connected in any other way.

He doesn't scumread scripten, so he doesn't need a case. He'll only reevaluate if I'm scum. Why'd you need a case for that?

In other news, I like the GF's response to my earlier question about the disconnect between what he chose to respond to, and the content in the posts.
something along the lines of "I can't help it if you think there's a disconnect" I think it's a pretty fair response, and I'm not going to press this matter further. There are too many misinterpretations at this point and most of them are probably based on my wordiness.

Are you just dropping one part of the accusation or the entire one?
-Tier

[Maxous]

I think I said a lot of complicated shit, but I was calling Greyfoxx scum for multiple reasons. being
Attempting to use the game flavor to appear town.
Creating the ISO reads as an attempt to appear town. because the ISO's
1. have Poor evaluations of posts and leave out the more important parts of the posts.
2. are Describing the posts rather than giving opinions on their content, and
Contradictions.

ok..this part is understandable

This is the comment that was being questioned. Greyfoxx thinks Scripten is town, thinks Naz is scum, thinks scripten may be scum with Naz.

This is a lot different than Maxous's example.

Maxous thought both parties were town, but still suspicious. In this case GF says Scripten and Nazarene are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

and then we're back to what????

[SABBATHonSABBATH]

Soo... he isn't scum reading Naz? FML. I swear, this is so fucking circular that it is stupid. I don't care about Foxx anymore right now. If he's scum, he'll keep being scum and doing scum things. otherwise, we can work together to find real scum.


~ozzy

[Quinoa]

Prod dodge.

[Scripten]

-Snip-

No. We're done with this. Continuing to argue about this is not going to advance the game in any way. Pushing it is stalling. Stop stalling.

Grayfoxxxx:

I'm starting to lean toward this being town-vs-town. Help me get my read on you back in order by telling me what you think of Naz standing on the sidelines and egging our argument on?

[Nazarene]

Egging on? I'm trying to fucking solve it, as you can see in 351. Read it, ffs.

[Mantisdreamz]

I am feeling like Quinoa should probably have the crap executed out of him if we do not reach a clear consensus elsewhere.

@SABBATH:

Please explain your Nik scumread beyond the completely ridiculous claim that he attempted to execute the king. I do not see why that scumread has remained so implacable.

@Grayfoxxx:

Untwist your panties. First, stop confbiasing. Asking the mod a question is null from any party. Such a question can only "feel" fake or genuine because of a prior-established read. Second, IIoA does not mean no analysis at all every in any way anywhere. It means that someone is essentially coasting on providing info instead of incisively punching into the game on analysis. Posting one-line responses that simply offer an impression of a post with no discussion do not count as analysis; they count as information because you are essentially just quoting someone and then calling them scum.

Let me know if you have any more questions.


-A

^good post.

[Mantisdreamz]

I am feeling like Quinoa should probably have the crap executed out of him if we do not reach a clear consensus elsewhere.

@SABBATH:

Please explain your Nik scumread beyond the completely ridiculous claim that he attempted to execute the king. I do not see why that scumread has remained so implacable.

@Grayfoxxx:

Untwist your panties. First, stop confbiasing. Asking the mod a question is null from any party. Such a question can only "feel" fake or genuine because of a prior-established read. Second, IIoA does not mean no analysis at all every in any way anywhere. It means that someone is essentially coasting on providing info instead of incisively punching into the game on analysis. Posting one-line responses that simply offer an impression of a post with no discussion do not count as analysis; they count as information because you are essentially just quoting someone and then calling them scum.

Let me know if you have any more questions.


-A

I challenge you to find someone who agrees with you. Although I wouldn't be surprised if Nika did.

oh, haha

[Scripten]

Egging on? I'm trying to fucking solve it, as you can see in 351. Read it, ffs.

What's left to solve? What about this situation do you not know and want to find out?

Btw, your 351 is terrible. If you don't understand my 224, I just don't know what's left to say to you. I've tried over and over to explain it.

[Nazarene]

I still don't think you've read my post. Let's stop the discussion.
Take this from me, though. I completely understand gray's viewpoint and his side of the argument is pretty much correct. He's not just pushing a counterwagon for the sake of it.

[Mantisdreamz]

If Quinoa doesn't stop active lurking, I'm going to push until he gets executed, because his current play is crap. (Am I wrong, peeps? If so, please tell me why.)

wrong if you find someone scummy over him who is null, i think.

i have to iso to see who you have.

[Mantisdreamz]

Don't like this post at all. Uses meta way to strongly here. Makes me look at Script as poss. scum if Naz is scum.

Yeah but we're town so you can just assume Scripten to be town for the time being.

I am assumung Script is town. I dont get your point here. You are defending script instead of yourself.

My point is you backing of off Script the way you did seems scummy on your part. Does this indicate anything about Script? Probably not. But it could.

why were you assuming script was town?

given that you said this after:

That said, the ISO Grayfoxxxxx gave on Naz makes me kind of suspicious of a GF/Naz scumteam. I didn't like the way GF implied that Naz flipping scum would implicate me as scum because of a read Naz gave. Felt massively fake. A little WIFOM-y, though, so I'm on the fence there.

You would not be autoscum. Naz's reason was scummy, and I was speculating he could be killing two birds with one stone. 1.A False read 2. Make you seem more town. Again just speculation.

Is that the only part of that ISO that is bothering you?

cause you are saying that you have script as town, but at the same time, naz saying that meta thing on him, makes script seem scummy.

(sorry am asking questions on old stuff/posts)

[Mantisdreamz]

hey maybe sabbath is town after all

i think so

re your next post - i don't think so. i'm thinking maybe gray or maxous. or if there's no real decision - clusk, since he's gonna be modkilled anyway. though that would be more like a no lynch in a way

[Nazarene]

Please not gray, I'm positive he's town.

Why do you think sabbath is town?

[Mantisdreamz]

why are you positive?

sabbath seems sort of like naive town (sorry if that's an insult sab).. this is regarding your nikanor/execute thing.


the switch on him didn't look bad to me (panties getting in a twist)


i have to go to work should be caught up by tonight


naz - i know you pressured on his switch. do you still feel like it was weird/scummy?


also what are your thoughts on maxous?

[Mantisdreamz]

and if we don't come to a decision ..should we execute clusk?