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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:55 am

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zu_Faul wrote:Want to see what I claim, so you can counter claim, get me lynched and win for the scum? Or just adjusting your claim? What is it?
Neither, now stop stalling and claim.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:48 am

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Yama, if you think he's a townie, then why are you trying to protect him so much?
A) Point out where in day one and day two i was "far less forward" - then point to me where you wanted you have pushed for aplayer that turned out to be in the mafia. The push on cubs was an easy one for mafia to gang up on - he was sdcum that wasn't on their team.
B) You seem to be assuming he is actually a townie that claimed what he did in order to avoid power roles from being killed. Then, all the power roles died. ANd UT left the game. OTU replaced in, posted nothing, left. WHy? Because it was a failed gambit. Hilariously failed.
Now Zu Faul is in, is stalling, balking, and you are makign a case for him to use. Which, to me, stinks of one buddy helping another. Zu Faul can help himself AND you out by TRYING to help, instead of fossing around.
C) Saying "Every townie is a bad lynch, even a vanilla" contrasts sharply with the reasoning behind your vote on the doctor day one. You do not get to play the pious one, not here.
D) I'm willing to assume/suggest that Cuban Smoker was killed because either mafia was scared that you and him were millers together or because you wanted to kill him to partially clear yourself.
E) I'm reading "Put this to bed" as to mean "Tie up a loose end" or "following a lead" or "trying to do any amount of scum hunting" - something that you yourself are resisting a lot, because apparently you've decided that you know what UT is or shold claim or the motivations behind what he said way back when, in day one. SOrry, but I go by the mantra that "Every good townie should be questioning the motives of strange behavior and posting." Even in this post. "I can see reasons why Zu Faul would want to hold off" - What reasons is that? You can see them, I can't. If you think he's a townie, than claiming isn't going to o anything, but he's already soft claimed something more than townie. So what is it? If it's cop, than he has results - innocent or guilty, it can help. If he's a roleblocker, same deal.
F) You saying that it was good that we got the SK yesterday. While it is good that got scum, it was definitely the wrong scum to catch. If he wanted to survive he would have to kill mafia to prevent an automatic mafia win - so the SK would have been on the side of town, at least for the next day or two.

But on the other hand, Mafia could just be smart enough to realize me and Yama are going to go after each other for a quick lynch day 4. I dunno.
Rereading may be in order. Or maybe input from the othoer half of the players.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:22 pm

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Votecounts upon request. I believe there has only been one vote today, so I will refrain from them until another vote appears.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:36 am

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THrawn is voting for Zu Faul.
Now that's interesting.
Are we in lylo? BEcause if so, that means that one of those two is almost surely scum.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:18 am

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Yeah, I'd like to hear from Thrawn.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:26 am

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ho hum.
My biggest suspect for today was killed overnight. I still think Yama is more likely town than not, though I agree with Skruffs that his interactions with Zu_Faul today stinks.

My biggest problem with UT is the fact that when I replaced him as the kingmaker in kingmaker II he played a similar way to the way he played this game and I can see him as a power role for that reason. However, Zu needs to claim. Now. Every post without a zu claim is one more that distracts from the issue at hand, that is, why ubertimmy implied he was a power role.

However, I think it's unwise to focus specifically on one or two players, especially this lat in the game, so later I will go back through the game again and pick out a few other players I want to look at.

I'm glad cubsfan was the SK. It would have been incredibly annoying and childish if had been town (or scum, for that matter). At least the only person he screwed over was himself.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:49 am

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Zu_Faul, I'll be posting in order. I won't compromise the mass claim in order to respond to an accusation that was only tossed around by one person. At this point, your words are discounted until you claim and resolve the issue, hence why I'm voting for you. I'll remove the vote after you claim.

And related to that: I don't worry that much about a quicklynch in this game, which has ran at a glacial pace. I don't think that people are going to become quite active now after being relatively slow for months on end. You can check: This thread was started in February. That's more than a month per day so far. This game is going nowhere quickly.

All in all, what everyone needs to see is the claim of the power role by zu_faul. I(and everyone else) await your response.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:12 am

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thrawn1020 wrote:Zu_Faul, I'll be posting in order. I won't compromise the mass claim in order to respond to an accusation that was only tossed around by one person. At this point, your words are discounted until you claim and resolve the issue, hence why I'm voting for you. I'll remove the vote after you claim.

And related to that: I don't worry that much about a quicklynch in this game, which has ran at a glacial pace. I don't think that people are going to become quite active now after being relatively slow for months on end. You can check: This thread was started in February. That's more than a month per day so far. This game is going nowhere quickly.

All in all, what everyone needs to see is the claim of the power role by zu_faul. I(and everyone else) await your response.
Why don't you claim first? You seem to have some special information, as you know for sure that I have a power role.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:34 am

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Zu Faul, it's clear you really don't want to claim first, but please at least explain
why
without giving away what your role is, if you can do such a thing. Right now it looks like you're saying you don't want to claim first because you don't want to claim period... is this the case?
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:19 am

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No, I'm fine with claiming in general. It's just that I strongly dislike how some people are suggesting that I have to start and others support that suggestion. Should be scum there, don't you think? Random would be more fair, and not influenced by scum.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:23 am

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Zu_faul, your predecessor, ubertimmy, strongly hinted at a power role. We have lots of dead power roles and you have yet to be killed. Yet you still refuse to claim, without even saying who you think should claim first. Every second you delay and avoid the issue is a point against you. If you are town, you are only hurting yourself. Claim. Now.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:04 am

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ubertimmy wrote:I am a REALLY REALLY BAD LYNCH.
This is the post Shanba is referring to.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:34 am

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Shanba wrote:Claim. Now.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:57 am

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1)Zu_Faul/Overtheunder/ubertimmy
4)thrawn1020
5)Skruffs
7)Yamahako
8)Mert
11)Shanba/Abbott/Simenon
12)spectrumvoid

I think that's the requested claim order right? Zu_Faul - that's a random as you're gonna get to be honest.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:18 am

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Claim or get my vote, Faul.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:48 am

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Vote : Zu Faul

He's stalling because he's been put into a trap, the same reason UT replaced out and OTU replaced out.
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:01 am

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Is zu faul even around?
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:06 am

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uhh... good question. He hasn't posted onsite since friday, but he could have just been absent for the weekend.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:08 am

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spectrumvoid wrote:
ubertimmy wrote:I am a REALLY REALLY BAD LYNCH.
This is the post Shanba is referring to.
Obviously. I've actually read the thread.
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uhh... good question. He hasn't posted onsite since friday, but he could have just been absent for the weekend.[/quote}
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:14 am

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Thrawn, you're up.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:39 am

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I will be away till Friday due to school exams.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:43 am

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zu: Flavour?
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:06 am

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zu_Faul wrote:
spectrumvoid wrote:
ubertimmy wrote:I am a REALLY REALLY BAD LYNCH.
This is the post Shanba is referring to.
Obviously. I've actually read the thread.
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uhh... good question. He hasn't posted onsite since friday, but he could have just been absent for the weekend.[/quote}
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I can't see how it matters, but I want to know WHICH townie.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:10 am

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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:13 am

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No... I don't believe that. All other characters have ben characters from a show, rather than shows themselves.
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