Mini Normal 1609: The Case Of Doctor Pepper (Game Over)

[Wake1]

Let's assume for a minute TTH is a Vengeful Neighbor.

Are we going to A) hope there's a Doc and B) have him or her continue defending the Vengeful until late-game?

[FakeGod]

Did you read my explanation on why using the vengeful town's ability does not grant town another kill?

[Wake1]

...

Why

exactly

am I solid Town to you, FakeGod?

[Wake1]

Did you read my explanation on why using the vengeful town's ability does not grant town another kill?

Who is this directed towards?

[Jagged Appliance]

Whoever TTH shoots, she is likely to be wrong, wouldn't you agree Wake? I don't think a potshot is the best play for town.

[FakeGod]

Did you read my explanation on why using the vengeful town's ability does not grant town another kill?

Who is this directed towards?

Directed to Wake

[TellTaleHeart]

@TTH, have you decided whether or not you want to use your revenge kill? We have less than a day left.

That's not my decision to make.

If you're asking who I would kill, that's a really tough choice. I'm really disenchanted with a massive shot. I would kill out of: Anatole, Jagged Appliance, or Doogal. Or possibly Flubbernugget, though I really want to let that read be.

[Wake1]

Whoever TTH shoots, she is likely to be wrong, wouldn't you agree Wake? I don't think a potshot is the best play for town.

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...

If TTH is lying about being Vengeful, I will note that you two are wanting her to wait and survive further into our game. If she flips Scum, that will put my curiosity on steroids.

We should utilize her ability, and we do so well by voicing our opinions on who to die with her. Why we've been wasting our time not doing that is something in itself. Ultimately the decision is up to her. If I were a Vengeful Neighbor, and fully-claimed, I'd at least be soliciting ideas from everyone else on who I should nail should we go ahead with the lynching.

[TellTaleHeart]

Whoever TTH shoots, she is likely to be wrong, wouldn't you agree Wake? I don't think a potshot is the best play for town.

Well then who do you want to lynch?

I'm telling you up front who I intend to shoot

and you forgo any comment on that and just say something general like "she's going to be wrong."
Are you townreading the people I'm listing (aside from yourself)?

Please say something specific to the situation.

[TellTaleHeart]

We should utilize her ability, and we do so well by voicing our opinions on who to die with her. Why we've been wasting our time not doing that is something in itself. Ultimately the decision is up to her. If I were a Vengeful Neighbor, and fully-claimed, I'd at least be soliciting ideas from everyone else on who I should nail should we go ahead with the lynching.

That's

exactly

what I've been trying to do with you and that's

exactly

the conversation you refuse to engage in, Wake.

[Wake1]

Did you read my explanation on why using the vengeful town's ability does not grant town another kill?

Who is this directed towards?

Directed to Wake

If she is indeed Vengeful, and is lynched Day 1, someone will die and it cannot be stopped.

Whether Town is the entity being granted another (correct?) kill hinges somewhat on its ability to communicate who should be Venged and why.

[FakeGod]

Town does not get an extra kill if TTH uses her ability.

[TellTaleHeart]

You're wrong, Wake. FakeGod

and

Rufflig went over the math several times.

It doesn't give town extra kills.

It just gives

me

more power over one of the kills.

[Wake1]

We should utilize her ability, and we do so well by voicing our opinions on who to die with her. Why we've been wasting our time not doing that is something in itself. Ultimately the decision is up to her. If I were a Vengeful Neighbor, and fully-claimed, I'd at least be soliciting ideas from everyone else on who I should nail should we go ahead with the lynching.

That's

exactly

what I've been trying to do with you and that's

exactly

the conversation you refuse to engage in, Wake.

Well, yeah. Forgive me if I don't take an unconfirmed player's word as Gospel while in a Mafia game.

I hear you when you say you're a Vengeful Neighbor. OK. Go and do your thing thinking on who to Venge. Don't assume I must believe you.

[Wake1]

Town does not get an extra kill if TTH uses her ability.

You mean a lynch.

[FakeGod]

No, I mean a kill.

Town loses a lynch, actually.

[TellTaleHeart]

Actually, a lot of this hinges on Boonskiies. If Boonskiies is in fact scum, I would be a lot more suspect of Rufflig than I am right now sans Boonskies scum flip.

I'm almost to the point of paralysis...

[Jagged Appliance]

@TTH, I told you the set I'd lynch out of, given the choice. {massive, Anatole, Doogal, Rufflig} Tbh I'm not confident. You can see we have Anatole and Doogal in common but I don't know if that helps you.

[TellTaleHeart]

Actually, a lot of this hinges on Boonskiies. If Boonskiies is in fact scum, I would be a lot more

suspicious

of Rufflig than I am right now sans Boonskies scum flip.

I'm almost to the point of paralysis...

Editing mess up again.

[Jagged Appliance]

If TTH is lying about being Vengeful, I will note that you two are wanting her to wait and survive further into our game. If she flips Scum, that will put my curiosity on steroids.

'k.

You know I'm the backup lynch right?

[TellTaleHeart]

@TTH, I told you the set I'd lynch out of, given the choice. {massive, Anatole, Doogal, Rufflig} Tbh I'm not confident. You can see we have Anatole and Doogal in common but I don't know if that helps you.

So what is your point, Jagged?

If we have so much overlap in our suspect list, why do you seem to have such a problem with giving me a shot?

[Jagged Appliance]

Like I said, I'm not confident. You've seen how shitty my reads have been this game.

[FakeGod]

Jagged's current suspect list is one geared toward his own survival.

Here is one he gave before he came under pressure.

I reread the thread, here are my reads:

Town:

Flubber
Wake
Green Crayons
Anatole
BBT

Null:

Omph
Rufflig
massive
Boon
TTH
Csareo

Scum:

Doogal

You will note that certain major differences.

[Wake1]

Town does not get an extra kill if TTH uses her ability.

You're wrong, Wake. FakeGod

and

Rufflig went over the math several times.

It doesn't give town extra kills.

It just gives

me

more power over one of the kills.

...so then you've given yourself a convenient claim while also not having to go ahead and commit to something which will prove your innocence, which gives you a nifty cover to plow through the remainder of the game.

"OH, I'M VENGEFUL NEIGHBOR, DON'T LYNCH ME TODAY."
"OH, I'M VENGEFUL NEIGHBOR, DON'T LYNCH ME THE NEXT DAY EITHER."

Right.

Why would you even claim this crap if it's not verifiable? Iirc, you weren't even at L1. Sorry, but I've seen players like Havingfitz in Mafia in Space do crap like that, too. And if you flip Scum and judging by your join date I'll assume Scum have Daytalk, because it requires some sort of advising to get a newer Scum member to fabricate such a claim. FG may seem like one to try and advise others.

[Wake1]

No, I mean a kill.

Town loses a lynch, actually.

So, by Town "loses a kill," you're insinuating that more than one "claimed" Townie can kill, correct?