Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[beastcharizard]

Vote Count

Goodmorning: ucitron00
davesaz: Huntress
hephaestus: Malakittens
Peabody: Shinobi, Josh_B
Metal Sonic: Goodmorning
nopointinactingup: Scripten, Metal Sonic, BlueBloodedToffee, Hephaestus
Malakittens: nopointinactingup

Not voting: Peabody, davesaz

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-04 20:45:00)

[Peabody]

VOTE: Hestephus

Your vote on NPAU looks opportunistic. Especially since only half of those voting him have any reasoning (Scripten, MS) although both cases are vague.

And especially since the only person you prodded as possible scum was MS.

Ok so the problem with this game is that it hasn't built momentum due to all the replacements. At this point I'd expect at least one solid wagon but instead there's a ton on vanity wagons that aren't going anywhere and I don't even know where to begin looking for scum.

Are you only looking for wagons?

This looks opportunistic as MS's 'NPAU is easier to lynch' line. Which you called out.

Long story short: NPAU -might- be scum. But the wagon on him is incredibly scummy. Hephaestus's vote looks most suspect of the four.

[Peabody]

Are you only looking for wagons?

Okay, the way I phrased this isn't fair. But are wagons often the focal point of your scum hunt?

I don't like that you haven't had strong opinions about anyone. I thought you did about MS, but that wasn't backed up by a vote. Your vote immediately changed to NPAU who others were voting at the time.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Need to see more from Uct, Heph and GM.

Waiting for Mala's and GM's reads-lists.

[Metal Sonic]

ok beast you really have to get more updated with the vote counts preferably one every 5 pages at least or else people are going to replace out

Because I have a good interest to replace out myself :/ but I am staying because /support the charizard/

[Metal Sonic]

If npau is town then Hephaestus is conf scum

This is a factual logic conclusion

[Metal Sonic]

Npau is still likely scum


I have no motivation to write cases just go lynch him just go

[BlueBloodedToffee]

MS - Are you still town-reading Mala?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

And scum-reading GM?

[hephaestus]

are wagons often the focal point of your scum hunt?

Yes. Vanity wagons don't tell me anything. The way a wagon develops shows us where scum is - who is eager to jump on a wagon, who hops off a wagon last minute, etc. Sure reasoning and arguments are somewhat alignment indicative but when there is nothing at stake, meh. I'm not surprised someone voted me for this but I don't hate this wagon and I wanna see where it goes.

[hephaestus]

I don't like that you haven't had strong opinions about anyone.

Me neither

[Peabody]

Why don't you hate the wagon?

MS, how did you come to that conclusion?

[beastcharizard]

ok beast you really have to get more updated with the vote counts preferably one every 5 pages at least or else people are going to replace out

Because I have a good interest to replace out myself :/ but I am staying because /support the charizard/

I am going to try to do one every day.

[Metal Sonic]

Why don't you hate the wagon?

MS, how did you come to that conclusion?

he is happy to vote me or npau

if both of us are town, he is happy to vote town

and that is only what scum will do

[Metal Sonic]

MS - Are you still town-reading Mala?

And scum-reading GM?

yes and yes. I have static reads. Unless a player has made something that definitively makes me want to reconsider their alignment, they will remain static in my readslist.


So this method is flawed in that there might be scum in my townpile. But it has a 100% rate of catching scum correctly so you're gonna have to trust me on that one

>hence goodmorning should die but *shrugs* she is skilled <

[Scripten]

OK. Anyways, I want Scripten and BBT to give a case on me. The others are sheeping/scum I think. TBH, I'm no fan of this game, but I'll try to respond to it the best I can

I'll do this as soon as I can. For the moment, I would suggest ISOing NPAU and getting context on the places where he votes to see why he looks suspect to me.

[davesaz]

MS - Are you still town-reading Mala?

And scum-reading GM?

yes and yes. I have static reads. Unless a player has made something that definitively makes me want to reconsider their alignment, they will remain static in my readslist.


So this method is flawed in that there might be scum in my townpile. But it has a 100% rate of catching scum correctly so you're gonna have to trust me on that one

>hence goodmorning should die but *shrugs* she is skilled <

Isn't the 100% rate of catching scum bit a little brash? Don't see how this can be correct if there are scum in the town pile, unless you're trying to claim you never put town in the scum pile.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Dave, in 473 you left out quite a few people from your reads-list. Was there a reason for this?

Have you developed a read on any of the players you left out or have any of your previous reads changed?

[uctriton00]

hephaestus what concerns you about Josh? You pinged him in 463

Hmm, Josh why are you voting Peabody?

There's often a distinction in the difference between town and scum asking questions, and I want to know your motivation behind it. In your ISO, this random prod to Josh pops up.

[davesaz]

@BBT: Time, and maybe. Need to go to work, more complete answer later.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@BBT: Time, and maybe. Need to go to work, more complete answer later.

In this upcoming complete answer, can you also tell me why you chose those people to post your reads on.

[uctriton00]

davesaz, question still out there for you: what is your experience level with Mafia? I need to ask you a few things, depending on this.

[hephaestus]

Why don't you hate the wagon?

Because I have no reason to believe he's town.

[hephaestus]

hephaestus what concerns you about Josh? You pinged him in 463

Hmm, Josh why are you voting Peabody?

There's often a distinction in the difference between town and scum asking questions, and I want to know your motivation behind it. In your ISO, this random prod to Josh pops up.

I actually think Josh is town, which is why I was curious about his case on Peabody, especially since I had/have a slight town read on him as well.

[uctriton00]

I don't hate that reply.