In post 129, Mantisdreamz wrote:thing is though... and this is in general. his push for execution was pretty much like a vote. in normal terms of mafia... ppl don't generally get freaked out over someone placing a vote.
But Nik's post was actualy like calling for a quick hammer, or trying to pressure a dayvig to act without reasoning.
In post 149, Maxous wrote:In post 77, SABBATHonSABBATH wrote:
Maxous what makes Mantis less likeable than Fox and Nikanor?
idk how to answer this really? i didn't feel mantis was as town as nik.
Mantis is the Day1 named king, by either flavor or by role. Don't you think that's effectively a IC confirmation by the mod?
Which also brings me back to Nik's gambit choice. The named king? Very Ballsy.
Which part of 77 makes you think we should be killed? Is it that I'm not liking Nikan?
or the questions I asked? You already said you didn't like me prior to 77. What makes 77 different? -skip to post edit after seeing 166
~ozzy.
Can you point to further Nikanor contributions? I'm pushing a scummy gambit that was played in poor taste. Is that policy?
In post 129, Mantisdreamz wrote:thing is though... and this is in general. his push for execution was pretty much like a vote. in normal terms of mafia... ppl don't generally get freaked out over someone placing a vote.
But Nik's post was actualy like calling for a quick hammer, or trying to pressure a dayvig to act without reasoning.
~ozzy
Interesting point. What do you think, comparatively, of my (54)?
In post 169, Nikanor wrote:though honestly a lot of my grayfoxx read comes from the fact that he chose to iso sabbath first & his iso on me (i haven't read the rest).
Oh great, an associative read assuming that a second player is scum based on a player who is town possibly being scum. Dio and I have no partners except each other.
Interesting point. What do you think, comparatively, of my (54)?
In post 179, Nazarene wrote:I cannot imagine both heads of a hydra legitimately believing that that was a gambit. Or that it is important anyhow.
Dio doesn't think the broken rule hurt anything, and I'm not sure if he understands why my panties are so bunched up over it. 27 was my refusal to believe the most likely truth. Post hoc 37 I've accepted it as a gambit, but a scummy one for multiple reasons.
In post 174, GrayFoxxxx wrote:My point is you backing of off Script the way you did seems scummy on your part.
In post 79, Nazarene wrote:Scripten I read the start of your scumgame. I'm pretty much convinced you're not scum now.
hrm, they're read on scripten does seem over-the-top.
naz thinks it beyond possible that scripten could mix up his scum-game?
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And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative
Mantis is the Day1 named king, by either flavor or by role. Don't you think that's effectively a IC confirmation by the mod?
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Which also brings me back to Nik's gambit choice. The named king? Very Ballsy.
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Can you point to further Nikanor contributions? I'm pushing a scummy gambit that was played in poor taste. Is that policy?
1) no.
2) why is "ballsy", scummy per se?
3) i don't have a problem with his reads
@sabbath: do you have any other reads?
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And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative
In post 174, GrayFoxxxx wrote:My point is you backing of off Script the way you did seems scummy on your part.
In post 79, Nazarene wrote:Scripten I read the start of your scumgame. I'm pretty much convinced you're not scum now.
hrm, they're read on scripten does seem over-the-top.
naz thinks it beyond possible that scripten could mix up his scum-game?
I'd like to add that the last time I played with Tiershift, whom is one of the heads of Naz, he played a pretty townie scum. I was particularly caught up in confirming him as a town read in our last game together. (Hence my "ouch", since I'd either noticed him buddying another player or thought I did, and the subsequent backup from that probably helped him get that town read.)
That said, the ISO Grayfoxxxxx gave on Naz makes me kind of suspicious of a GF/Naz scumteam. I didn't like the way GF implied that Naz flipping scum would implicate me as scum because of a read Naz gave. Felt massively fake. A little WIFOM-y, though, so I'm on the fence there.
My biggest issue is with Quinoa. Normally bullshit like that is a null read, but the deadlines are too short to be futzing around like that. Nikor gets some scum points for doing the same thing to a lesser extent.
There's too much WIFOM for me to agree with anything about Nikor's execute command to be anything other than a troll post. I guess you could say creating the WIFOM itself is scummy but meh. But I still find Nikor scummy for other reasons like a lot of his filler so I'm not getting in too much of a fit about Ozzy's scum read gambit thing.
Maxous is a little light on content for me to say much more than null.
GreyFoxx's reads lists are interesting, but at this stage in the game could very easily be faked by scum. I can't really read into his motivations with them. He gets town points for scumhunting afterwards though.
Nazerine is town. Scripten's meta argument on him has me thinking, but I'm not sure about what as of right now.
Right now I want either Nik or Quinora killed. Nik more than Quinora, who is kinda policy right now. I'll talk a little more with Ozzy but I'm pretty sure he'll agree there.
In post 169, Nikanor wrote:though honestly a lot of my grayfoxx read comes from the fact that he chose to iso sabbath first & his iso on me (i haven't read the rest).
Oh great, an associative read assuming that a second player is scum based on a player who is town possibly being scum. Dio and I have no partners except each other.
That said, the ISO Grayfoxxxxx gave on Naz makes me kind of suspicious of a GF/Naz scumteam. I didn't like the way GF implied that Naz flipping scum would implicate me as scum because of a read Naz gave. Felt massively fake. A little WIFOM-y, though, so I'm on the fence there.
You would not be autoscum. Naz's reason was scummy, and I was speculating he could be killing two birds with one stone. 1.A False read 2. Make you seem more town. Again just speculation.
Is that the only part of that ISO that is bothering you?
That said, the ISO Grayfoxxxxx gave on Naz makes me kind of suspicious of a GF/Naz scumteam. I didn't like the way GF implied that Naz flipping scum would implicate me as scum because of a read Naz gave. Felt massively fake. A little WIFOM-y, though, so I'm on the fence there.
You would not be autoscum. Naz's reason was scummy, and I was speculating he could be killing two birds with one stone. 1.A False read 2. Make you seem more town. Again just speculation.
Is that the only part of that ISO that is bothering you?
I'll be honest, almost the entire ISO you made for Naz felt off. I might be affected by having a different read on several of the posts. (Specifically, some you found as fluff I saw as mildly more useful.) I'm not scumreading you hard, but got me eyes on you.
not really seeing anyone pinging me as town or scum :/
nik's thing before was still definitely a troll. but i still think it is probably non telling of his alignment. even though i said i don't think he would be aggressive like that as scum..i don't really know
So what's your read on SoS? You think they're scum. Why?
their posts reek of fakescumhunting. everything is backwards.. giving strong reads on stuff that's null & giving null reads on stuff that's strong. they generally don't see the game from a town mindset.
