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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:33 pm

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I'm not frustrated anything, I enjoy it when I make people retreat into this corner where they're only option is to either admit they are either scum,wrong or intellectually crippled.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:16 am

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DoctorPepper PM'd me to resolve latest flip.

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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:24 am

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Vote Count 4.1


Flubbernugget (
LYNCH
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NakedJogger, My Milked Eek, Dr Pants


Not Voting (1):
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:29 am

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Flubbernugget,
Blue Mafia Godfather
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The Blue Mafia team is OUT!

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It is now Day 5.

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch!

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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:10 am

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Honestly, I'm actually pretty surprised that Flubber was not trolling there.

I believe it has to be NJ, since Eek and me voted with Flubber and would have known his claim was fake.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:32 am

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In post 186, Bullish wrote:
In post 166, Clusk92 wrote:To add to the above, all Bullish has done all game is post about strategy, which I don't like. Apart from one post where he says two people are scum with no reasoning.

he says the optimal strategy for town is to hunt scum. Why don't you start doing it then?


I'm posting strategy because this game is different from the normal games. Wagons aren't readable, mislynches don't punish town as much, and there are just so many scum..

My scum reads were on Dr Pants and Expresso. Because Dr Pants scum read Expresso, and scum scum reads people. It's more Expresso than Dr Pants.

I'm busy these few days, but I'll still be able to read all the posts and engage to a substancial degree.

Not a bad argument. How bout this? Why didn't I vote Flubber?
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:35 am

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uups, had some quotes queued up. Did some reading btw. There are some interesting interactions but i can't tell what they mean.

For ex. Espresso's 'I'm gf with Csareo'. Or Espresso townreading Pants if ZZZX isn't scum.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:36 am

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In post 27, Espressojet wrote:
In post 17, ZZZX wrote:
Vote Espresso

I am sad im not scum in this :/ are you?


Yeah, I'm godfather with Csar-

In post 21, Dr Pants wrote:no its Csareo and Espresso

they earn the RVS scum reads


OH EM GEEZEE

{howdidheknow?}

In post 32, Csareo wrote:
In post 27, Espressojet wrote:
In post 17, ZZZX wrote:
Vote Espresso

I am sad im not scum in this :/ are you?


Yeah, I'm godfather with Csar

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This really fucks with me right now.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:38 am

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Among other things because I've just completed a scumgame where my scumpartner was Barrack Obama. We scored the perfect win
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:47 am

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In post 629, Dr Pants wrote:Honestly, I'm actually pretty surprised that Flubber was not trolling there.

I believe it has to be NJ, since Eek and me voted with Flubber and would have known his claim was fake.


And what about the fact that I had a scumread on and said I'd vote one of you even before he claimed. Sort of renders your statement irrelevant doesn't it?
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:15 am

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In post 413, Dr Pants wrote:VOTE: bullish

if no one is going to post then im risking it all right here.

I BELIEVE!

In post 427, Dr Pants wrote:no im just not stupid

red godfather loses today unless town lynches blue scum. so, if blue scum claims red godfather, the actual red godfather would cc since its the ONLY way they could possibly win.

In post 428, Dr Pants wrote:this is also why im offering incentive for red scum to join town for the lynch. its beneficial for both town and red scum, and in the case that town fucks up, red scum is guarenteed the win.

In post 432, Dr Pants wrote:
In post 430, FakedBlogger wrote:P-edit

There are 5 actually.
I forgot
d) town lynches blue goon, lynches blue GF and then mislynches and vengekills the last townie
e) similar to c but town lynches a townie who shoots the blue goon instead of GF, convincing....


you just slipped

its permanently lylo now, there are no more vengekills for town


This makes me wonder if I should congratulate you if you are scum. In which case you going for Bullish is pretty nice. Even nicer would be to have planned to lynch Flubber all along but instead act like you didn't, knowing that town would transition you on to Flubber. Which would lead you up to this day with flawless cred and good arguments for you and Eek to vote me and even the leverage of playing it cool and collected like your first post of the day.

But.. I don't think you're that smart or stylish. So I'll probably vote Eek. He took his sweet ass time contemplating his vote and maybe he figured something out. Since he didn't bother to share that something, leaving his thought process a mystery, it makes me think he's scum.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:32 am

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Have to read your scumgames first though, :sigh.

In the mean time, I don't thin Eek ever gave his take on Flubber's claim. Better later than never.
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:46 am

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Myeah, did an iso of Eek and I can definitely see him being the red gf with all the 'nj is soft cc-ing' debacle, and his posts prior to that, regarding scumreading Espresso but then voting aphix for voting espresso. Townreading me but then saying I'm the gf and all. Quite possibly scum, quite possibly. myeeess.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:00 am

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This is sadly more difficult than I would like.

On one hand, why would Eek vote with me and Flubber if he knew Flubber fake claimed?

On the other, why would you have Espresso hard bus you on day 2?
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:03 am

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Still, I'm actually shocked that the Blue team should have won for like 2 days but flubber just forgot to vote
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:08 am

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NJ, why did you choose to vote for me instead of Flubber?
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:32 am

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Why is Barrack Obama everywhere?

In post 640, Dr Pants wrote:NJ, why did you choose to vote for me instead of Flubber?


Because a townie wouldn't have the audacity to ask scum to forfeit the game, not to mention take in for granted when it actually apparently happens. I figured it was a lame gambit to townread yourselves and go aggressively for the win.

I would've just as well voted for Flubber.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:02 am

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In post 638, Dr Pants wrote:This is sadly more difficult than I would like.

On one hand, why would Eek vote with me and Flubber if he knew Flubber fake claimed?

On the other, why would you have Espresso hard bus you on day 2?


My turn

On one hand, did Eek take his time because he needed to figure out who the second blue scum was?

On the other, did Pants rush it because he figure Bullish was scum and with Flubber claiming he had figured out the game?
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:15 am

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As a bonus: a statistical argument for me not being scum: By pushing for Pants' lynch I fucked up. The red gf has 1 less player to consider in finding the blue scumteam which makes him less likely to fuck up.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:16 am

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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:10 pm

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Eek, could you explain why you chose to vote Bullish over me, and what made you decide that Flubber's claim was legit enough to vote with him?

I'll be completely honest here. I'm likely going to vote for NJ. But, I want to give everyone a chance to present their case since this is slightly less obvious to me than if Flubber had flipped red.
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:17 pm

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I'll explain in a few hours.
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:02 pm

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After some review, I've got some thoughts.

I know that one of Eek or NJ must be the Red GF. Both have made plays that would be highly risky for the red GF to do.

In NJ's case, NJ self voted and was almost voted out. Espresso was also on this wagon. While this is a very risky play for scum, it has the potential to pay big rewards. By taking this risk early in the game, NJ and Espresso would heavily distance themselves. Given that quite a few people, especially me, wanted Espresso's head, this heavy bussing would allow NJ to easily worm his way in to a "conf-not-red-scum" position. In most cases, I would think this was too risky of a play to do with the red GF (it would be much safer had Espresso been the one to self vote), but its less risky than what Eek's gambit would have to be.

In Eek's case, if he was the red GF then he would know that Flubber was lying. There was a long period where there were 2 votes on me and 2 votes on Bullish. We know now that this was due to a misplay, but at the time it would appear like a very solid 2 town vs 2 blue scum to the red GF. Any other situation, and blue scum would have had the numbers needed to win. Eek chose to vote with me/Flubber. If Eek was the red GF, this would be an impossible risk. You would lose the game in every scenario, unless blue scum had misplayed (and of course they did). This would be a loss 99 out of 100 times.

Essentially, while I believed at the start of day 3 that NJ couldn't be a godfather due to the risky self vote, its infinitely less risky than voting with someone you know to be scum. This also explains why NJ was so hostile towards me; in short we had both incorrectly reasoned out that the other would have to be blue scum due to Flubber's misplay.

I'll give both of you time to respond and ask me any questions you might have, but barring a really strong counter argument from NJ, this is where my vote is going to go.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:56 pm

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In post 647, Dr Pants wrote:in short we had both incorrectly reasoned out that the other would have to be blue scum due to Flubber's misplay.


I told you how I reasoned, how did you come up with the idea that I was blue scum?
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:07 pm

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I fell asleep last night and today I'm away the entire day, I'll get a post in tonight. For real.
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