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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:48 pm

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You're not going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. S*Gaiden will not make long cases, write stunning insights, or sugar coat his words. He is not the man for multi-paragraph eloquence. He is, however, being honest to a fault, and it comes across in his writing.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:50 pm

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Alchemist: You caught my eye because you were following paths that won't lead anywhere too useful. It could be explained by you coming from a different site that is more meta-based. Would you care to link me the site you played on previously? People coming from different sites seem do things that could be interpreted as scummy on this site.

I really see nothing suspicious with Reino. I don't like it when people suspect people based on their aggressiveness. I believe it's helpful for town to have a few aggressive players. People voting for Reino should re-analyze there vote and see if it is based on reason or personality.

Krystal Bald wagon seems to be gaining traction. Maybe I will do a meta on them. Unless anyone else already knows them pretty well? Also which one of the hydra heads did that gambit? It was so blatant that I have trouble believing it would be that easy.

Aphix: Hey! The only guy I know. Good to play with you again. Your two votes are Kurigan and Krystal I believe? Do you currently lean to believing both are scum?

UNVOTE: SXTLHGaiden
Not impressed with you so far, but I feel this vote isn't doing anything.
VOTE: randomidget
Definitely leaning scum on this guy.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:56 pm

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Ok, now I see it. When they said caps, I thought they meant all caps.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:02 pm

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Here Fluminator. This is the site where I do traditional mafia. I just started there so I'm learning how to play from there. Only have 1 game on it which is still ongoing, and lurked through some of their older games to try and pick up how they play.

http://www.millenniumforums.com/forumdi ... afia-Forum

This is another site I've been playing on for months, but the mafia games work very differently here because they're heavily focused on night actions instead of day phase posts.

http://otakucentral.org/forumdisplay.php?f=35
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:07 pm

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In post 222, Alchemist21 wrote:To clarify the first point in my post, I think it's inconsistent to say something is both sarcasm and a reaction test. Even rereading it I can't really see it as having a sarcastic tone.

I have no idea what you're talking about. The sarcasm thing was completely different from the test.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:07 pm

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I don't particularly agree with the angle about KB scum slipping. any scum who is not complete shit at the game would read the role PMs and the setup and realize how it's played. that is literally rule #1 of scum. so the logical conclusion is either he's town reaction testing or scum doing a fake reaction test for towncred

in either case it's not a scum slip

KB might be scum, but not for that

my townread on KB mostly comes from a pattern I'm observing in their play. I've modded one game they were in (they were town) and I saw it there, and I have very good reason to believe it'd be different if they were scum. however, I'd rather not out it until I'm sure of it. also I really liked their angle re: aphix ().

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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:08 pm

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btw reinoe

In post 165, Matsumi Sisters wrote:I don't like anything reinoe is doing. all he's done so far is comment about roles and push a theory that one or more of Alchemist/Ank are scum. his entrance reads more like scum who isn't sure how to blend in with the thread, so he attempts to focus on setup spec to cover it up; it's also really bad that he calls out Alchemist for not having any town reads, while not having any himself.


I made a case on you that has nothing to do with aggression or playstyle. respond to it instead of dodging it.

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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:09 pm

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Are you even reading our posts Al?
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:10 pm

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In post 231, Matsumi Sisters wrote:btw reinoe

In post 165, Matsumi Sisters wrote:I don't like anything reinoe is doing. all he's done so far is comment about roles and push a theory that one or more of Alchemist/Ank are scum. his entrance reads more like scum who isn't sure how to blend in with the thread, so he attempts to focus on setup spec to cover it up; it's also really bad that he calls out Alchemist for not having any town reads, while not having any himself.


I made a case on you that has nothing to do with aggression or playstyle. respond to it instead of dodging it.

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Why should I give a damn about your case on me?
Scum typically need to fabricate reasons for scumreads...

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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:17 pm

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In post 201, reinoe wrote:
In post 154, reinoe wrote:
In post 123, Krystal Bald wrote:
In post 105, Krystal Bald wrote:
In post 103, reinoe wrote:Based on the last eleventy billion Pick Your Poison games the roles are almost definitely...

1 shot cop
innocent child
2 shot vig.

Anyone who doesn't claim one of these should just be lynched.

This is a really bad idea.

^ what happens when scum start fake claiming reinoe

It's precisely because of fake claims that anything besides those three roles should be hammered. Scum can fake roles not in this game without ever being countered. Those three roles are almost always taken.

What are your thoughts on this Krystal?

well i was thinking that scum could just fake claim those particular roles
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:19 pm

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are you fucking serious

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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:19 pm

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In post 234, Krystal Bald wrote:
In post 201, reinoe wrote:
In post 154, reinoe wrote:
In post 123, Krystal Bald wrote:
In post 105, Krystal Bald wrote:
In post 103, reinoe wrote:Based on the last eleventy billion Pick Your Poison games the roles are almost definitely...

1 shot cop
innocent child
2 shot vig.

Anyone who doesn't claim one of these should just be lynched.

This is a really bad idea.

^ what happens when scum start fake claiming reinoe

It's precisely because of fake claims that anything besides those three roles should be hammered. Scum can fake roles not in this game without ever being countered. Those three roles are almost always taken.

What are your thoughts on this Krystal?

well i was thinking that scum could just fake claim those particular roles

You think scum could easily fake-claim 2-shot vig or innocent child?
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:21 pm

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In post 232, Krystal Bald wrote:Are you even reading our posts Al?


Yeah, but I was confused about what you two heads were saying because I couldn't tell the heads apart. Now that I see how you two are identifying yourselves I'll reread the posts and try to re-evaluate them.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:28 pm

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In post 233, reinoe wrote:Why should I give a damn about your case on me?

if you legitimately do not understand this, I do not have any faith you would ever be capable of understanding it

the whole point is that you explain to me why I'm wrong so that, if you are town, I can fix my read on you

there is also the fact that if no one ever responds to cases made on them, all it does is allow scum to hide by just dodging every single time someone calls them out

there are several other reasons why making arguments and responding to them is literally how the game works. what you are doing is anti-town as fuck and as long as you keep dodging I have no choice other than to assume you have no explanation. so, try again

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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:31 pm

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In post 238, Matsumi Sisters wrote:
In post 233, reinoe wrote:Why should I give a damn about your case on me?

if you legitimately do not understand this, I do not have any faith you would ever be capable of understanding it

the whole point is that you explain to me why I'm wrong so that, if you are town, I can fix my read on you

there is also the fact that if no one ever responds to cases made on them, all it does is allow scum to hide by just dodging every single time someone calls them out

there are several other reasons why making arguments and responding to them is literally how the game works. what you are doing is anti-town as fuck and as long as you keep dodging I have no choice other than to assume you have no explanation. so, try again

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Why can't it be that I just don't care? Let's say your theory that you've put too much though into is true. Do you think me not giving a fuck about your case is scummy? If you do think it's scummy how scummy do you think it is?
Scum typically need to fabricate reasons for scumreads...

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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:35 pm

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In post 236, reinoe wrote:
You think scum could easily fake-claim 2-shot vig or innocent child?

ahhh. no :p
didn't even think of that
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:36 pm

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In post 239, reinoe wrote:Why can't it be that I just don't care? Let's say your theory that you've put too much though into is true. Do you think me not giving a fuck about your case is scummy? If you do think it's scummy how scummy do you think it is?

HELL FUCKING YES. town who have an incorrect case pushed on them should, you know, be able to actually EXPLAIN why the case is wrong. on the other hand, scum are more likely to get defensive or just outright ignore arguments against them, which is what you're doing here.

also, you trying to discredit my argument because "lol I put too much thought into it" is scummy as fuck.

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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:46 pm

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In post 241, Matsumi Sisters wrote:
In post 239, reinoe wrote:Why can't it be that I just don't care? Let's say your theory that you've put too much though into is true. Do you think me not giving a fuck about your case is scummy? If you do think it's scummy how scummy do you think it is?

HELL FUCKING YES. town who have an incorrect case pushed on them should, you know, be able to actually EXPLAIN why the case is wrong. on the other hand, scum are more likely to get defensive or just outright ignore arguments against them, which is what you're doing here.

also, you trying to discredit my argument because "lol I put too much thought into it" is scummy as fuck.

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This is actually kinda fun...

what's your opinion of Alchemist "dodging" my case on him?
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:59 pm

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In post 242, reinoe wrote:
In post 241, Matsumi Sisters wrote:
In post 239, reinoe wrote:Why can't it be that I just don't care? Let's say your theory that you've put too much though into is true. Do you think me not giving a fuck about your case is scummy? If you do think it's scummy how scummy do you think it is?

HELL FUCKING YES. town who have an incorrect case pushed on them should, you know, be able to actually EXPLAIN why the case is wrong. on the other hand, scum are more likely to get defensive or just outright ignore arguments against them, which is what you're doing here.

also, you trying to discredit my argument because "lol I put too much thought into it" is scummy as fuck.

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This is actually kinda fun...

what's your opinion of Alchemist "dodging" my case on him?

Lulz. It's like the Matsumi Sisters saw exactly where I was going with this and decided to shut the fuck up. :lol: I see you logged in on the bottom of the forum page. :wink:
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:08 pm

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SXTLHGaiden, who are your scum reads right now?
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:48 pm

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i think i like reinoe
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:49 pm

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he's another snarky one
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:25 pm

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In post 244, Fluminator wrote:SXTLHGaiden, who are your scum reads right now?

also, ya i've been trying to get him to post more.
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:28 pm

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i'm unsure on anatole.. cause i liked him for town. but then his vote was kinda of.. "ok since ppl are asking me, i'll just put it there"
i didn;t like it cause it seemed too convenient if he is scum to place it after being prompted


i hope this makes sense... im half asleep
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:38 pm

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Eh. That's too much of a stretch. He hadn't stated any particular scumread towards anyone else before that.

I'm more worried about the fact that it was his first vote in the entire game, but even that's less scummy and more a minor annoyance.

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