Mini 458 - Game over!

[Per]

Time for a normal, non-flavoured, typical game of Mafia! There are rumours going around that there is an aggressive gang about. Instead of locking doors and windows, you will act like brave men and women, and come out on the streets to find out who the scum are!

The living players

(in order of sign-up)
Albert B. Rampage

molestargazer

Kate
Mastermind of Sin

dylan41985

ThAdmiral

The dead ones

curiouskarmadog

Tromboner

, townie, deadline lynched, Day 1

Mastermind of Sin, COP, killed, Night 1

Adel, SCUM, lynched, Day 2

Numenorean7

DanMonkey

, SCUM, lynched, Day 3

NabakovNabakov

fak

, townie, killed, Night 3

Crub

J-man

, townie, lynched, Day 4

Tarhalindur

HungryJoe

carrotcake

, townie, killed, Night 4

pickemgenius, SCUM, lynched, Day 5

Links

End of Day 1
Beginning of Day 2
End of Day 2
Beginning of Day 3
End of Day 3
Beginning of Day 4
End of Day 4
Beginning of Day 5
End of Day 5

You are a TOWNIE. You have no special abilities but your vote during the day. You win when all mafia players are dead.

You have 48 hours from now to confirm in the game thread. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them.

Good luck,
Per

[Per]

The Rules

- No talking outside the game thread unless your role PM specifically says you are allowed to
- Votes must be in bold (otherwise they will not be counted) and in the form

vote: Per

- While unvoting is not mandatory, I would like you to do it anyway to avoid any slip-ups on my part
- Once a player has a majority of votes (>50%), this player will be lynched. No talking nor unvoting allowed in twilight.
- No posting once you're dead except for a "bah!" post
- Do not quote PM's sent by me or anyone else
- Do not edit your posts
- Do not write hidden text, or do not use tags like [text=black] to code information
- If you will be away for a few days, please let us know. If you need a replacement, please ask.
- I may impose a deadline when the game isn't moving or discussion is going in circles
- The mod's say is final
- HAVE FUN!!

Deadline Rules:

- The player with the most votes at the deadline is lynched
- If two players have an equal amount of votes at the deadline, the one who reached this amount first is lynched
- If someone reaches a majority of votes before the deadline, he gets lynched immediately

[Per]

Well, obviously I don't need to show you the way! It's playtime!!

Now, for my first ever votecount on this site.

Vote Count

Molestargazer: 1 (Adel)
carrotcake: 1 (pickemgenius)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote Count #2

carrotcake: 2 (pickemgenius, dylan41985)
Molestargazer: 1 (Adel)
ThAdmiral: 1 (Kate)
tromboner: 1 (fak)
dylan41985: 1 (DanMonkey)
DanMonkey: 1 (J-man)
J-man: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)
No lynch: 1 (Carrotcake)

[Per]

I can't really count that as a vote now, can I?

[Per]

Vote Count (#3)

Tromboner: 3 (fak, J-man, pickemgenius)
molestargazer: 2 (Adel, Mastermind of Sin)
carrotcake: 1 (dylan41985)
dylan41985: 1 (DanMonkey)
DanMonkey: 1 (Carrotcake)
No lycnh: 1 (Tromboner)

Not voting: 3 (molestargazer, Kate, ThAdmiral)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote Count (#4)

J-man: 3 (fak, ThAdmiral, Tromboner)
molestargazer: 2 (Adel, Mastermind of Sin)
Tromboner: 2 (J-man, pickemgenius)
carrotcake: 1 (dylan41985)
dylan41985: 1 (DanMonkey)
DanMonkey: 1 (Carrotcake)

Not voting: 2 (molestargazer, Kate)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Prod sent to dylan41985.

[Per]

Vote Count (#5)

J-man: 6 (fak, ThAdmiral, Tromboner, dylan41985, Mastermind of Sin, Adel)
dylan41985: 1 (DanMonkey)
Tromboner: 1 (pickemgenius)
DanMonkey: 1 (Carrotcake)
Adel: 1 (Kate)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (J-man)

Not voting: 1 (molestargazer)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Can the mod say all the jobs handed out or is there a place i can go to see them?

No, this is not an open game. You know there are townies and there is scum. You don't know how many of each and you don't know anything about power-roles.

[Per]

Vote Count (#6)

J-man: 2 (fak, Tromboner)
dylan41985: 2 (DanMonkey, Adel)
Tromboner: 1 (pickemgenius)
DanMonkey: 1 (Carrotcake)
Adel: 1 (Kate)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (J-man)
pickemgenius: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)

Not voting: 3 (molestargazer, ThAdmiral, dylan41985)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Prod sent to fak and carrotcake.

I usually send a prod after 4 days of inactivity. These two players meet this criterion. Molestargazer and DanMonkey will meet it unless they post today or tomorrow (giving molestargazer some more lenience as he appears to have GCSE's).

[Per]

Prod sent to DanMonkey and Tromboner.

Since I didn't explicitly state how many time everyone would get to pick up a prod, I'm setting it to 72 hours. That means we will need replacements for fak and carrotcake tomorrow.

Now I'm posting, I might as well do another vote count.

Vote Count (#7)

dylan41985: 4 (DanMonkey, Adel, ThAdmiral, pickemgenius)
J-man: 3 (fak, Tromboner, dylan41985)
DanMonkey: 1 (Carrotcake)
Adel: 1 (Kate)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (J-man)
pickemgenius: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)

Not voting: 1 (molestargazer)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Per]

3 - my bad.

[Per]

Replacements for fak and carrotcake requested...

[Per]

NabakovNabakov replaces fak.

[Per]

HungryJoe replaces carrotcake.

Vote Count (#8)

dylan41985: 3 (DanMonkey, ThAdmiral, pickemgenius)
J-man: 3 (

NabakovNabakov

, Tromboner, dylan41985)
pickemgenius: 2 (Mastermind of Sin, Adel)
DanMonkey: 1 (

HungryJoe

)
Adel: 1 (Kate)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (J-man)

Not voting: 1 (molestargazer)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Indeed, Adel's 1/2 vote has been ignored.

[Per]

Prod sent to Molestargazer.
Replacements requested for DanMonkey and Tromboner.

And though it's not really necessary, I'm going to use this post to

Vote Count (#9)

dylan41985: 4 (DanMonkey, ThAdmiral, pickemgenius, Adel)
J-man: 2 (Tromboner, dylan41985)
Mastermind of Sin: 2 (J-man, NabakovNabakov)
pickemgenius: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)

Not voting: 3 (molestargazer, HungryJoe, Kate)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Per]

Albert B. Rampage replaces Tromboner.

(I would have replaced DanMonkey first because his inactivity is lasting longer, but Albert explicitly asked to replace Tromboner so I'll be happy with the replacements I get)

[Per]

Since it is not allowed for players to reveal any communication with me, I'll stand up to say that he simply PM'ed me with "I'm in to replace Tromboner". I'm saying this because I don't want it to affect the game.

[Per]

Albert B. Rampage has exceeded his limit of 4 Mini games at once and thus can't replace Tromboner.

Curiouskarmadog replaces Albert B. Rampage.

Numenorean7 replaces DanMonkey.

[Per]

Vote Count (#10)

dylan41985: 6 (

Numeronean7

, ThAdmiral, Adel, Kate, molestargazer,

curiouskarmadog

)
Mastermind of Sin: 2 (J-man, NabakovNabakov)
J-man: 1 (dylan41985)
pickemgenius: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)

Not voting: 2 (HungryJoe, pickemgenius)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote Count (#11)

dylan41985: 3 (ThAdmiral, Kate, molestargazer,)
Mastermind of Sin: 2 (J-man, dylan41985)
pickemgenius: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)
curiouskarmadog: 1 (Numeronean7)
Kate: 1 (curiouskarmadog)

Not voting: 4 (HungryJoe, pickemgenius, Adel, NabakovNabakov)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

It's great, 9 players have contributed in the last 24 hours.

[Per]

Wait... what's that sound? Is it a deadline coming closer?

I will impose a deadline in a couple of days (giving some players the time to get back from holidays before the day ends).

[Per]

Vote Count (#12)

dylan41985: 5 (ThAdmiral, Kate, molestargazer, HungryJoe, J-man)
curiouskarmadog: 2 (Numeronean7, Adel)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (dylan41985)
pickemgenius: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)
J-man: 1 (curiouskarmadog)

Not voting: 2 (pickemgenius, NabakovNabakov)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Oh and Deadlines are bad Per were arn't ready to make a lynch yet not enought info out there yet give us a a couple more days or a week, before you announce deadline plz :'( deadlines tend to cause townies to get lynched.

Yes, I know. But Day 1 has been going on for quite some time now, and no really big new issues have come forward in the past days. I will probably be aiming for the 4th of July for the deadline. No reason to panic yet.

[Per]

My bad, it's been corrected.

[Per]

Oh Jezus, am I drunk or something?

[Per]

Situation: J-man has informed me that he only wants to be replaced if dylan is not. Being a new mod, I'm a bit in the blue here. I contacted MeMe about this.

Edit: dylan41985 will not be replaced unless he asks to be replaced himself. I'm looking for a replacement for J-man.

[Per]

Crub replaces J-man.

Vote Count (#13)

dylan41985: 5 (ThAdmiral, Kate, molestargazer,

Crub

, pickemgenius)
curiouskarmadog: 2 (Numeronean7, Adel)

Crub

: 2 (curiouskarmadog, NabakovNabakov)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (dylan41985)
pickemgenius: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)

Not voting: 1 (HungryJoe)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

I hope I didn't mess it up this time...

[Per]

Vote Count (#14)

curiouskarmadog: 5 (Numeronean7, Adel, Crub, Mastermind of Sin, NabakovNabakov)
dylan41985: 4 (ThAdmiral, Kate, molestargazer, pickemgenius)
Crub: 1 (curiouskarmadog)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (dylan41985)

Not voting: 1 (HungryJoe)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote Count (#15)

curiouskarmadog: 5 (Numeronean7, Adel, Crub, NabakovNabakov, Kate)
dylan41985: 3 (ThAdmiral, molestargazer, HungryJoe)
Crub: 1 (curiouskarmadog)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (dylan41985)
pickemgenius: 1(Mastermind of Sin)

Not voting: 1 (pickemgenius)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Deadline is most certainly coming closer, I'm holding it because there seems to be a lot of activity now. But I also smell some traces of circular discussion...

[Per]

After post 107 I screwed up the quote…that is NOT an unvote vote for molestargazer

I saw the –1 and wanted to get the post in before the lynch.

I took the liberty to edit your post and fix the quotes to avoid further confusion.

[Per]

When we reach Page 23 on Day 1 with a biggest bandwagon of 3, it is time to set a deadline...

I'm setting a deadline at 11 July, 16:00 CET (= 14:00 GMT = just 10 minutes less than 7 days from this post).

Deadline conditions:

- The player with the most votes at the deadline is lynched
- If two players have an equal amount of votes at the deadline, the one who reached this amount first is lynched
- If someone reaches 7 votes before the deadline, he gets lynched immediately

Vote Count (#16)

curiouskarmadog: 3 (Numenorean7, NabakovNabakov, dylan41985)
dylan41985: 3 (ThAdmiral, molestargazer, HungryJoe)
pickemgenius: 2 (Mastermind of Sin, Crub)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (curiouskarmadog)

Not voting: 3 (pickemgenius, Adel, Kate)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch before the deadline.

Also, Numenorean7: I am not replacing dylan41985 unless he becomes inactive or asks to be replaced. You ended up in a game with the players you ended up with. Deal with them.

[Per]

Vote Count (#17)

dylan41985: 4 (ThAdmiral, molestargazer, HungryJoe, Numenorean7)
curiouskarmadog: 2 (NabakovNabakov, dylan41985)
pickemgenius: 1 (Crub)
Numenorean7: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)
ThAdmiral: 1 (Adel)

Not voting: 3 (pickemgenius, Kate, curiouskarmadog)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch before the deadline.

Prod sent to molestargazer, HungryJoe and dylan41985.

A deadline is on, so I'm prodding a little faster than I would usually do.

[Per]

Vote Count (#18)

dylan41985: 5 (ThAdmiral, molestargazer, HungryJoe, Numenorean7, Kate)
ThAdmiral: 3 (Adel, NabakovNabakov, Crub)
Numenorean7: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)
Adel: 1 (curiouskarmadog)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (dylan41985)

Not voting: 1 (pickemgenius)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch before the deadline.

[Per]

Vote Count (#19)

dylan41985: 4 (ThAdmiral, HungryJoe, Numenorean7, Kate)
Mastermind of Sin: 3 (dylan41985, Adel, Crub)
Adel: 2 (Mastermind of Sin, curiouskarmadog)

Not voting: 3 (pickemgenius, NabakovNabakov, molestargazer)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch before the deadline.

Deadline on 11 July, 14:00 GMT (2 days and 23 hours from this post).

[Per]

Huh? How the hell did I do that? I'm getting the feeling that I'm messing up too much vote counts here.

As for the deadline:

Deadline conditions:

- The player with the most votes at the deadline is lynched
- If two players have an equal amount of votes at the deadline, the one who reached this amount first is lynched
- If someone reaches 7 votes before the deadline, he gets lynched immediately

[Per]

IMPORTANT NOTICE. I am lifting the deadline.

Two reasons: there has been a new twist in the discussions, and I need a replacement for HJ. Deadline may be reinstated as soon as I find a replacement for HJ.

Prod sent to dylan41985.

Vote Count (#20)

dylan41985: 3 (ThAdmiral, HungryJoe, Numenorean7)
Mastermind of Sin: 3 (dylan41985, Adel, Crub)
Adel: 2 (Mastermind of Sin, curiouskarmadog)
HungryJoe: 1 (pickemgenius)

Not voting: 3 (NabakovNabakov, molestargazer, Kate)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

[Per]

Hell yes! Take that you stupid deadline. This thread is rolling right on to page 30 of D1. Per, can we go deadlineless for as long as possible? I want to set a record.

Will finish re-read tonight, promise.

Let's beat Mafia 64! It had a 57 page Day 1 with 20 players, and we only have 12, which would make us more awesome!

57 pages with 20 players is 2.85 pages per player. We have 12 players, so that makes 34.2 pages. Almost there! That would be a cool deadline; night starts together with page 35.

[Per]

Vote Count (#21)

Mastermind of Sin: 6 (dylan41985, Adel, Crub, NabakovNabakov, Numenorean7, curiouskarmadog)
dylan41985: 2 (ThAdmiral, HungryJoe)
Adel: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)

Not voting: 3 (molestargazer, Kate, pickemgenius)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Tarhalindur replaces HungryJoe.

[Per]

Attention everyone!

I will be away from tomorrow until 29 July. MeMe will be watching over this game during that time.

MeMe is the new mod. Anything she says, goes. Thank you MeMe!

Vote Count (#22)

Mastermind of Sin: 4 (dylan41985, Adel, Crub, Numenorean7)
dylan41985: 2 (ThAdmiral, HungryJoe)
Adel: 1 (Mastermind of Sin)

Not voting: 5 (molestargazer, Kate, pickemgenius, NabakovNabakov, curiouskarmadog)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Prod sent to dylan41985.

[Per]

I'm alive. I will be catching up with this game very soon. Thanks a lot MeMe for looking after it! Also, wow, still on Day 1?

[Per]

I'm setting a deadline at

Tuesday 7 August, 20:00 CET

(18:00 GMT, in America that would mean somewhere around noon, I guess; this is about 3 hours less than a week from this post).

Deadline conditions:

- The player with the most votes at the deadline is lynched
- If two players have an equal amount of votes at the deadline, the one who reached this amount first is lynched
- If someone reaches 7 votes before the deadline, he gets lynched immediately

Vote Count

Numenorean7: 2 (Mastermind of Sin, Tarhalindur)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (dylan41985)
Adel: 1 (curiouskarmadog)
dylan41985: 1 (ThAdmiral)
curiouskarmadog: 1 (Crub)
ThAdmiral: 1 (Numenorean7)
Tarhalindur: 1 (Kate)

Not voting: 4 (Adel, molestargazer, NabakovNabakov, pickemgenius)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch before the deadline.

[Per]

Vote Count

curiouskarmadog: 2 (Crub, Adel)
Adel: 2 (curiouskarmadog, Mastermind of Sin)
Numenorean7: 1 (Tarhalindur)
Mastermind of Sin: 1 (dylan41985)
dylan41985: 1 (ThAdmiral)
ThAdmiral: 1 (Numenorean7)
Tarhalindur: 1 (Kate)
Kate: 1 (NabakovNabakov)

Not voting: 2 (molestargazer, pickemgenius)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch before the deadline. Deadline is 6 days minus 45 minutes from this post.

Prod sent to dylan41985.

[Per]

For the game's sake, could you do less watching and more acting?

I think it would be appropriate to mention to the others that dylan has been given his final prod and will be replaced after the next unannounced inactivity of 4 days. He has been warned about this at his previous prod already.

[Per]

Vote Count

curiouskarmadog: 2 (Crub, Adel)
Adel: 2 (curiouskarmadog, Mastermind of Sin)
Numenorean7: 1 (Tarhalindur)
ThAdmiral: 1 (Numenorean7)
Tarhalindur: 1 (Kate)
Kate: 1 (NabakovNabakov)

Not voting: 4 (molestargazer, pickemgenius, ThAdmiral, dylan41985)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch before the deadline. If nothing changes, it will be curiouskarmadog who gets lynched at the deadline.

Deadline is about 5 days minus 3h40m from this post.

[Per]

Crub, if you feel uncomfortable about the way you have been treated in this game, you should consider asking for a replacement (I hope you won't do that, though, it would be a horrible job looking for another replacement for this game). My feeling is that CKD's "insults" have always been more or less game-related, unlike some other attacks done by other players in the past...

If anyone has an objection against extending the deadline for one more week, please PM me.

Prod sent to Molestargazer.

[Per]

Vote Count

Adel: 2 (Mastermind of Sin, Tarhalindur)
ThAdmiral: 2 (Numenorean7, curiouskarmadog)
curiouskarmadog: 2 (Crub, NabakovNabakov)
Tarhalindur: 1 (Kate)
No lynch: 1 (Adel)

Not voting: 4 (molestargazer, pickemgenius, ThAdmiral, dylan41985)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch before the deadline. If nothing changes, Adel will be lynched.

Deadline in 2 days, 2 hours and 30 minutes from this post. Please note that

I am not granting the deadline extension request.

[Per]

Vote Count

ThAdmiral: 3 (Numenorean7, curiouskarmadog, dylan41985)
Adel: 2 (Mastermind of Sin, Tarhalindur)
curiouskarmadog: 2 (Crub, NabakovNabakov)
Tarhalindur: 1 (Kate)
dylan41985: 1 (ThAdmiral)
No lynch: 1 (Adel)

Not voting: 2 (molestargazer, pickemgenius)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch before the deadline.

Deadline in 20 hours and 42 minutes from this post. (I was one hour off in my previous post, I have corrected it now.)

[Per]

Vote Count

curiouskarmadog: 6 (Crub, NabakovNabakov, ThAdmiral, Numenorean7, pickemgenius, Mastermind of Sin)
ThAdmiral: 2 (curiouskarmadog, dylan41985)
Adel: 1 (Tarhalindur)
pickemgenius: 1 (Adel)

Not voting: 2 (molestargazer, Kate)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch before the deadline.

Deadline in 2 hours and 35 minutes from this post.

Please note that we have a "no posting during twilight" role, this also counts when the deadline has expired but I haven't closed the topic yet.

[Per]

You post was well within the deadline, NabNab. Deadline has just passed now.

Vote Count at the DEADLINE

curiouskarmadog: 6 (Crub, NabakovNabakov, ThAdmiral, Numenorean7, pickemgenius, Mastermind of Sin)
ThAdmiral: 2 (curiouskarmadog, dylan41985)
Adel: 1 (Tarhalindur)
pickemgenius: 1 (Adel)

Not voting: 2 (molestargazer, Kate)


Curiouskarmadog was walking towards... Hey, this was supposed to be a non-flavoured game!

Curiouskarmadog, vanilla townie, has been lynched.

If you have a night ability, send in your choice before

10 August, same time (exactly 3 days from this post).

If all night choices reach me before that time, the topic will be opened immediately, so keep your eye on this game.

[Per]

So everyone woke up for a new day, after having lynched an innocent townie the evening before. Everyone was feeling rather uncomfortable. Everyone? No, Mastermind of Sin wasn't feeling uncomfortable. He wasn't feeling at all.

Mastermind of Sin, COP, has been killed.

Day 2 has now begun.

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

[Per]

(Info: Molestargazer isn't being replaced because he replied to his prod overnight, asking to not be replaced.)

[Per]

Molestargazer will be replaced.

I have a candidate to take the job... it's Mastermind of Sin. He hasn't received his cop investigation result.

Objections may be sent to me by PM within, say 45 hours (suits me better than the usual 48 ).

[Per]

I have come to a decision.

Molestargazer will be replaced, but not by Mastermind of Sin.

This decision is final. MoS might replace into this game later on, but now is too soon.

I am now trying to fulfill the impossible quest of finding a replacement for a 47-page-long game.

Vote count will come soon, I have had very limited time due to a temporary job I'm doing in real life, I must admit that I have a few pages to catch up with.

[Per]

Albert B. Rampage seems to be volunteering to take the job (I say seems because his wording was a bit odd). He was the first candidate to replace Tromboner back in the early stages of the game so he knows his role, but eventually Albert couldn't replace because he was at his limit of 4 Mini games. It's okay though, he was then replaced by CKD who obviously is rather dead.

Just saying this in case Albert's name rings a bell but you can't really tell why.

[Per]

Albert B. Rampage replaces molestargazer.

He had asked me to post the date and hour of his PM offering to replace MSG. I have no problem doing that, so: the date was 16/08/2007, 2:04:38 (am) Central-European Time, that is GMT+2.

Vote Count

Albert B. Rampage

: 1 (Numenorean7)
ThAdmiral: 1 (dylan41985)
Kate: 1 (Tarhalindur)

Not voting: 7 (

Albert B. Rampage

, Kate, Crub, pickemgenius, ThAdmiral, Adel, NabakovNabakov)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

[Per]

I have noticed something else too. Molestargazer's reply to his prod asked to replace him, not to not replace him. Christ, how could I make such a reading error?

[Per]

Vote Count

ThAdmiral: 1 (dylan41985)
Kate: 1 (Tarhalindur)
Adel: 1 (Albert B. Rampage)
Albert B. Rampage: 1 (Adel)

Not voting: 6 (Kate, Crub, pickemgenius, ThAdmiral, NabakovNabakov, Numenorean7)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

(Tarhalindur said in the V/LA thread that he has limited access for a couple of days, hence me not prodding him yet.)

Adel and Albert B. Rampage: this is a precautionary warning that if you two get too personal, I will be taking appropriate actions.

[Per]

Due to work combined with other evening activities, my access is practically limited to 0 for at least the past and the next 24 hours.

[Per]

Vote Count

pickemgenius: 2 (NabakovNabakov, Adel)
ThAdmiral: 1 (dylan41985)
Adel: 1 (Albert B. Rampage)
dylan41985: 1 (Crub)
Albert B. Rampage: 1 (Numenorean7)

Not voting: 4 (Kate, pickemgenius, ThAdmiral, Tarhalindur)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Get posting or be deadlined.

Prod sent to NabakovNabakov and ThAdmiral.

Dylan41985 is being replaced.

[Per]

Mastermind of Sin replaces dylan41985.

[Per]

To say it with MeMe's words:

2 posts in 48 hours = mod who is very close to set a deadline.

[Per]

Argh crap. Sorry for my absence. Just reading back, doing a quick votecount, you'll know soon...

[Per]

Vote count

Adel: 6 (Mastermind of Sin, Tarhalindur, Kate, NabakovNabakov, Albert B. Rampage, Numenorean7)
pickemgenius: 1 (Adel)

Not voting: (Crub, pickemgenius, ThAdmiral)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

As Adel was fighting for her life, she suddenly thought about that first-aid class she had taken once. She hoped she could pull it off doing some medical tricks. Unfortunately for her, the town was smarter than that.

Adel, SCUM, has been lynched.

If you have a night ability, send in your choice before

16 September

, same time (exactly 3 days from this post). If all night choices reach me before that time, the topic will be opened immediately, so keep your eye on this game.

[Per]

Everyone got out of bed for the third day of scum-hunting. Everyone? Yes, everyone.

DAY 3 has dawned.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote count

Numenorean7: 3 (Albert B. Rampage, Mastermind of Sin, Tarhalindur)
Tarhalindur: 1 (Crub)
Albert B. Rampage: 1 (Numenorean7)

Not voting: 4 (NabakovNabakov, Kate, pickemgenius, ThAdmiral)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote count

Numenorean7: 4 (Albert B. Rampage, Tarhalindur, ThAdmiral, Mastermind of Sin)
Tarhalindur: 1 (Crub)
Albert B. Rampage: 1 (Numenorean7)

Not voting: 3 (NabakovNabakov, Kate, pickemgenius)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Per]

Bump to get past MeMe's closed topics.

[Per]

Vote count

remains the same:
Numenorean7: 4 (Albert B. Rampage, Tarhalindur, ThAdmiral, Mastermind of Sin)
Tarhalindur: 1 (Crub)
Albert B. Rampage: 1 (Numenorean7)

Not voting: 3 (NabakovNabakov, Kate, pickemgenius)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote count

Numenorean7: 5 (Albert B. Rampage, Tarhalindur, ThAdmiral, Mastermind of Sin, NabakovNabakov)
Tarhalindur: 1 (Crub)
Albert B. Rampage: 1 (Numenorean7)

Not voting: 2 (Kate, pickemgenius)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

The motto of the day seemed to be "don't think twice, just close your eyes and shoot". There was a reason for that.

Numenorean7, SCUM, has been lynched.

If you have a night ability, send in your choice before

30 September, same time (exactly 3 days from this post

; for those of you who live in America, this will mean 29 September, same time). If all night choices reach me before that time, the topic will be opened immediately, so keep your eye on this game.

[Per]

A short sleep for everyone, an eternal sleep for NabNab...

NabakovNabakov, vanilla townie, has been killed.

DAY 4

has dawned.

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote Count

Crub: 3 (Tarhalindur, Mastermind of Sin, Albert B. Rampage)

Not voting: 4 (Kate, Crub, pickemgenius, ThAdmiral)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote Count

pickemgenius: 2 (Mastermind of Sin, Albert B. Rampage)
Crub: 1 (Tarhalindur)

Not voting: 4 (Kate, Crub, pickemgenius, ThAdmiral)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Tarhalindur has been prodded.

[Per]

I have prodded him and asked him what his current situation is. He has no access during the weekends, though.

[Per]

Kate has asked me to post in her games that her internet is down. She wishes to not be replaced, so yeah.

Well thank God for that! I'm not looking forward to finding a replacement for a 63 page game, you know.

[Per]

Vote Count

pickemgenius: 3 (Mastermind of Sin, Albert B. Rampage, Crub)
Crub: 2 (Tarhalindur, ThAdmiral)

Not voting: 2 (Kate, pickemgenius)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote Count

Crub: 4 (Tarhalindur, ThAdmiral, Albert B. Rampage, pickemgenius)

pickemgenius: 2 (Mastermind of Sin, Crub)

Not voting: 1 (Kate)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

All say bye-bye to Crub, dead townie.

Crub, vanilla townie, has been lynched.

If you have a night ability, send in your choice before

18 octobre, same time (exactly 3 days from this post).

If all night choices reach me before that time, the topic will be opened immediately, so keep your eye on this game.

[Per]

The town-bells ring again. Another of your friends has deceased. This time, it was Tarhalindur's turn.

Tarhalindur, vanilla townie, has been killed.

DAY 5

has dawned.

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

[Per]

Vote Count

pickemgenius: 2 (Albert B. Rampage, ThAdmiral)
ThAdmiral: 1 (pickemgenius)

Not voting: 2 (Kate, Mastermind of Sin)

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

[Per]

This was the hardest lynch ever: there were only three of you to do the job, and pickemgenius was heavily resisting. But hell, it was 3 to 1, so you would be a bunch of losers if you wouldn't be able to pull this off...

Pickemgenius, SCUM, has been lynched.

CONGRATULATIONS TOWN, YOU WIN!!!

The remaining players

Albert B. Rampage

molestargazer

, vanilla townie
Kate, DOC
Mastermind of Sin

dylan41985

, vanilla townie
ThAdmiral, vanilla townie


It was an honour being the mod for this game. You were the best bunch of players I have ever seen. Thank you all for this great game.

I apologise for some mistakes I have made. I guess we everyone makes mistakes especially in their first game, but I made a big one: I never told Kate anything about self-protecting. When she asked me about it, quite early in the game, I couldn't suddenly come up with a restriction since the non-restriction might have affected her play-style. This has caused the following pattern of night actions:

Night 1: Scum kill MoS. MoS investigates Adel but dies. Kate protects herself.
Night 2: Scum kill Kate. Kate protects herself.
Night 3: Scum kill NabNab. Kate protects herself.
Night 4: Scum kill Tar. Kate protects herself.


I'm sorry for this newbie mod mistake. I'm also sorry for my inactivity, which culminated when Adel got lynched. I hope you have enjoyed the game.

Pickemgenius. If it wasn't for MoS's hammer, I would have mod-killed you. Seriously. I have reported your post.

[Per]

Well, at least I know I'll NEVER forget to tell a doc he can't protect himself again.

[Per]

ckd, I didn't lynch you! I thought you were protown most of D1, but I switched because no one would listen to me. I didn't push that lynch on you, and I was still saying Adel-Num the whole time.

werent you on the lynch?..If I remember right, you and PICK jumped on at the same time..

but I could be wrong..no time to go back and check.

still think you did a decent job.

MoS was the last one on your wagon, but it was a deadline lynch so you couldn't call is a hammer. I was surprised when he jumped on that wagon though, but I guess it was because he had FoS'ed you at least once, so maybe he didn't want to look like a professional fence-sitter.

[Per]

Oh, I have some more. Because Num7 was a replacement as scum, I allowed the scum to communicate trough a total of 3 daytime PM's during D1. So, here's what they said to each other:

This message was sent to Numenorean7, pickemgenius, and Per in identical form.

Numenorean7 is replacing DanMonkey.

You and your buddies can communicate during Day 1. You may send each other 3 PM's (not 3 each, 3 in total), and please forward them to me too.

Regards,
Per

This isn't clear at all to me. We can each send 1 on average? So if pickemgenuis sends Numenorean7 three messages, how am I supposed to know that I can't send any?

Well, you can send one message to your 2 buddies and it will only count as one message.

Subtle tells I just thought of:

we don't know how many mafia there are, and we don't know how many factions there are!

so don;t say something like "I think yo are scum, dylan, so who are your 2 scum buddies" MoS will nail you if you do.


Numenorean7: welcome to the team. Awesome posts in the thread to far, I think we'll do great. Neither pickmegenius or myself are Godfathers or roleblockers. We don't know if you are or not. We talked about breadcrumbing for a fake-claim later or or faking a scumfight, but decided that we are both too inexperienced to pull either off. You may be able to get away with breadcrumbing, but make sure it is really subtle, or MOS will catch it. letters + 3 may work. so instead of dropping combos like "(c)hange (o)our (p)erspective" into several posts, you could drop "(f)ace (r)eality (s)cum". Fake-claiming is a tricky business, so be sure you know what you are doing if you choose to.

I don't think J-man or Dylan are power roles, and I don't think I can get away with cheering on many more bandwagons fishing for power roles without MOS getting suspicious.

I really really really think MOS is a power role or an SK. A player of his renown usually walks the fine line of looking too scummy for the scum to
both NKing but town enough not to get lynched. A player known for good play often gets targeted by the cop and for an NK, so I think he is trying to be an obvious pro-town player to draw the doc protection with outing his role.

I think it is important that we flush a power role so that player will draw the doc portection and we can kill MOS night One.

curiouskarmadog is a decent guess for being the power role, but I don't know how much traction we can get on that one.

It is dangerous for all three of us to be active players. I really am going camping this weekend, so at least I will be out of it for three days.

pickmegenius: MOS is awesome, isn't he? I don't know how he can be so confident that you are scum, I think he is bluffing. He is great, we need for him to die, for real, and there is no way in hell we can get him lynched. I know you are going on vacation, so that gives you an out for not posting for a while.

If the day drags on too long I will post a graphic showing patterns in voting and FOSing. If you can, try to make sure that we Fos or vote for each other, when possible, without encouraging a bandwagon. I would prefer it if my graphic could go along with the theory that scum are likely to cast the #2 or #3 vote on wagons. Try to keep track of how many times each player has cast a #2 or #3 vote, and keep your total with the average of all players.
Of course, make sure votes and FOS's have realistic explainations. You don't have to provide them immediately "I was just looking for a reaction" probably isn't a good enough of a reason.

here are some earlier exchanges we had:

Probably my last post to you, wondering if you have any more thoughts or ideas on how this should be played.




I'm playing like a townie basically.

I'm playing terse and i'm going to let people basically metagame me.

This game will be a good one for us.

Don't be obvious, don't be dumb, and just go with the flow.
If i'm dumb, bus me, don't just vote me, bring up every reason possible to use in your case against me.

We need to also worry about SK's, and vigs that kill for the town.

We need to watch out for them aswell.


And for NK's we need to come to a conclusion as a group, so don't send any choices in without the others consent.


Also if any of us are gone for the night stages then the other two can come to a conclusion.

This is my second time as scum. In order to be consistent I will have to be one of the most active players in this game. I can pull that off.

Late in day 1 I will do a very deep & very detailed vote analysis concluding that scum will cast more #2 votes than other players. So make sure your number of #2 votes is "average" with the rest of the group, which will probably be 3 or 4.

I'll bully other players in thread to post more, including you guys. Nothing personal- it is just my play style. I'll also work publically in thread to put off a lynch vote for as long as possible- again it is just my play-style.

Here are my thoughts on playing scum- spitting out ideas brainstorm style:

Dropping breadcrumbs for a fake roleclaim, like how"Currently our progress in this game is not meeting my expectations" has C-O-P as the first three letters, is something I can not do. One of you might want to though, and it would be cool if the other one of you comes along four or five pages later and notices it. I am not good enough to be involved in such a clever play. Also, I cannot fake a scum fight. I am still too new at this.

One simple rule should be all we need: don't cast one of the last two votes on fellow scum on day 1.

Don't lurk. Remember, the vote on day 1 is pretty much random. Lie to yourself: you are not mafia. Really try to figure out who the 3 members of the mafia are from information in thread. if one of us is stupid enough to act scummy react just as you normally would.

By being an active pro-town players we will be considered town. So post every little tell from every player you see in any post, but do not make mountains out of molehill- just try to be a news service. Try to present analysis that is as objective as possible.

Be kind and nice to other players in thread, forgiving and understanding. The subliminal impact of good deeds is the perception of being a good person: not scum. I think this works on a subconscious level unless the player is actively fighting it.

Hit "preview" and review your post looking for dumb mistakes. Take a minute to decide if you really want to post what you just wrote. Don't be afraid of deleting a post you just wrote.

Go to your profile page (the blue link at the top of the page) and the second option under preferences is "Hide your online status:" select yes. If you need to lurk ("We're going camping for three days starting this Friday"), this will keep people from seeing that you are online. If you have to lurk, keep your posting activity equal to the other games you are playing in.

Be sure your posts have content, try to be insightful. Try really really hard in thread to figure out who the scum is.

I think the rule of thumb could be not to cast the #2, #6, or #7 vote on each other. Since the vote on day 1 is basically random, that alone should be enough to shift the odds in our favor. And if crappy play by one of us or superior play by one of them makes a scum-lynch happen anyway, it would really help for the survivors to have voted for the lynch. So don't hesitate to cast the #1, #3, #4, or #5 vote if that is what you would normally do if you were playing town.

Final words: these day-time PMs are precious, so use them sparingly. I would rather 1 go unused than to not have one if we really need it.

This is the second legal daytime PM among the Mafia in Day 1 of Mini 458. Identical copies sent to Adel, Per, and pickemgenius.

@Pickem

I know pushing bandwagons without actually voting them is appealing, but please stop. In fact, stop doing anything that could be construed as pushing a wagon. It only makes MoS more certain you're scum. I think what would be best right now is a post analyzing the cases against various people, and voting the one you think most suspicious. Some slight pro-Dylan sentiment would be easy to do without attracting suspicion or seeming fake, but it would put you in a better position if Dylan ends up being lynched.

@All

If all stays as it is, Dylan will be lynched at the deadline. This may not be the best lynch for us (I do believe what I said in the thread: Dylan would be nice for the scum (us) to keep around into D2), but it's much better than a pickem lynch, which seems a likely alternative.

That said, I don't think either of you should get on the Dylan wagon. That is, of course, ultimately up to you, but it would be good if only one of us were on Dylan at the deadline (assuming he is lynched). Pickem especially would be hurt by being on a pro-town lynch. I believe most of the wrath for a Dylan mislynch would be directed at HungryJoe and ThAdmiral.

@Adel

I really appreciate your PM when I replaced in: it shows great dedication and intelligence. I do not have any special roles (godfather, roleblocker, etc), just plain Mafia. As far as breadcrumbing, scumfighting, etc. I don't go in for that sort of stuff. During the day, as far as I'm concerned, I am a vanilla townie. Trying to do something tricky just makes the Mafia more likely to be discovered. Even if I thought it would be beneficial, I don't believe I could pull it off, or take advantage of it properly if I did. So don't waste your time looking for breadcrumbs in my posts, because they aren't there. Fakeclaiming does have its place later in the game, but time enough to think about that tonight. Most of all, Adel, keep up the good work for what's left of today, as well as tomorrow. I wouldn't worry too much about ckd's attacks: I don't think he's going to be convincing anybody any time soon, and he'd much rather lynch MoS than you. You're definitely on most peoples' pro-town list.

@All

Regarding Night 1

What will we do about MoS? He is uncannily sure that pickem is scum, and he's starting to gather some attention. I'm getting power role vibes from him, although it could just be his play style. I would suggest him for a N1 kill, but it seems a doc would be likely to protect him, and if he were killed, it would draw suspicion on pickem. Perhaps we should kill NabNab? Get rid of a relatively strong pro-town player, and frame HungryJoe in the process. Be thinking about it.

Let's hope we can avert a pickem lynch without drawing attention to ourselves in the process. Here's to a good Day 2!

CC: Adel, Num7, Per


@ Adel- Now would be a damn good time to use your awesomeness and cold crystaline logic against CKD.It would be a damn fine time for that actually. I will hopefully be going after Kate rather soon to kill some of this flak that you have received recently.

@Num7- MOS caught you too... well atleast you can alwasy get back on his good side again =/. The whole Kate thing put you in a bid light, and later on I plan on going after Kate, which will hopefully take some flak off of you.


@Me- I'm on the towns good side again... so that's cool... I will bus you guys if nothing arouses from my Kate talks. I also think Kate is the Doctor (if there is one, just a hunch). I also wouldn't mind going after CKD (although Adel clearly should do it since that whole I could use my logic and rip it to shreds post)



We can't can't can't get lynched Day 1, this day has been too damn long... And will be hard to win this game.

Wow, that's a lot of communication...