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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:37 am

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Vote Count:

Not_Mafia (4)
- Aegor, Bins, Riddleton, Paschendale

Riddleton (1)
- Not_Mafia

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch


We have reached a lynch! But will it benefit the town? This close to the end of the game, mistakes are fatal. So let's get to the fun part.

Not_Mafia was a:


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Werewolf!
Werewolves have lost the game! Can the mafia rise from the ashes and secure a win for themselves? Or will the town steal the win from under them? Even though there is no night action, night deadline is still 72 hours. I hope this gives everyone time to make room for the final stretch of this game!


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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:13 pm

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Let's find out who died shall we?


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Do you really need to check this?


With 5 players alive, it takes 3 to lynch.


Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-01 22:13:46)
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:11 pm

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I want to lynch fuzzy.

Objections?
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:12 pm

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yes

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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:12 pm

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i'm going to look at this tomorrow, because it's late and my mind can't deal with lylo rn
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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:38 pm

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Oh hey, this is open now.
I, too, will look at this tomorrow. I've been on skype for 24 hours. I deserve sleep.
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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:12 am

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I've no objections to lynching Fuzzy.
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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:49 am

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In post 1027, Aegor wrote:I want to lynch fuzzy.

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In post 1031, Riddleton wrote:I've no objections to lynching Fuzzy.
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:51 am

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EBWOP: Why? Give me three reasons why I'm the proper lynch today. I'm more set on lynching Aegor based off yesterdays play.
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:47 am

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Aegor and then Riddleton are my suspects.
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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:23 am

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Y'all be crazay.

fuzzy, please specify what you mean by "lynching Aegor based off yesterdays play."

Also, you are more than welcome to ISO me for reasons you are hella scummy.
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:36 am

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Where are the reasons? :/

how are you guys so ready to lynch
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:36 am

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In post 990, Aegor wrote:Unless Pasch can tell me why, I do not care that his ISO read of NM led to a scumread. Again, there seems to be no case. Your own scumread stems from a flawed and tenuous night kill analysis.

I am more concerned about NM's reaction to the wagon on him.


^This right here proves that you had no interest in pursuing his lynch, meaning you didn't find him as mafia, yet you still hammered him.
You spent the entire day yesterday trying to advocate my lynch, saying that you "didn't think NM was as scummy as me," yet, when it came time for NM to be lynched, you were right there to do it. And then, after the hammer, you tried to push the blame onto someone else in the event he wasn't scum.

i.e. You're scum, and you should be todays lynch.

I shouldn't have to ISO anyone to find out your reads. If your reads are strong enough, you should have no problem saying them.
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:20 am

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In post 1036, Bins wrote:Where are the reasons? :/

how are you guys so ready to lynch


I find you and Fuzzy towny. I don't find Aegor and Riddleton towny.
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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:28 am

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In post 1037, fuzzybutternut wrote:^This right here proves that you had no interest in pursuing his lynch, meaning you didn't find him as mafia, yet you still hammered him

I thought it was possible he was a WW, as I said many times. I thought you were more likely to be a maf. I was willing to hammer NM given his scummy reaction and his inability to answer my questions compellingly.

You spent the entire day yesterday trying to advocate my lynch, saying that you "didn't think NM was as scummy as me," yet, when it came time for NM to be lynched, you were right there to do it. And then, after the hammer, you tried to push the blame onto someone else in the event he wasn't scum.

All of those things are true except the blame. Where is the problem?

i.e. You're scum, and you should be todays lynch.

How does that follow at all?

I shouldn't have to ISO anyone to find out your reads. If your reads are strong enough, you should have no problem saying them.

I have, you cronut. I want you lynched. I am not going to repost my reasons every single time someone asks because you all are too lazy to look them up.
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:05 pm

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You thought it was possible he was WW but you'd still rather lynch someone you thought was mafia.. cool, so you are scum.


In post 1020, Aegor wrote:I think...

VOTE: Not_Mafia

In post 670, Not_Mafia wrote:Why is Desp wolf and not just scum? And you're saying this is a shit lynch because there was no resistance, when I've pointed out why it should have gone through with no resistance and how this says nothing about the wagon itself. Bulge will be lynch fodder and a sticking point for every day he's still here, and we could have assumed a mafia kill like 4 pages ago, instead we're splitting wagons multiple times for no apparent reason.



If he flips town, it is on you. I wanted obvmaf fuzzy.


^Here's the "false" part. If you can't see the problem there, you should re-read.


So you're saying your reads haven't changed since the last time you posted them? How can that be if you're actively scum-hunting?
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:26 pm

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In post 1038, Paschendale wrote:
In post 1036, Bins wrote:Where are the reasons? :/

how are you guys so ready to lynch


I find you and Fuzzy towny. I don't find Aegor and Riddleton towny.


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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:28 pm

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It's hard to imagine Fuzzy in a team with anyone except for Paschendale. I guess I could see the Riddleton bus, but there's no chance in my mind of a Fuzzy/Aegor scumteam.
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:30 pm

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As for other team possibilities, I will look at Aegor/Riddleton. For now, Aegor, can you give me your read on Riddleton? I don't think you've even mentioned him.
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:56 pm

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In post 1040, fuzzybutternut wrote:You thought it was possible he was WW but you'd still rather lynch someone you thought was mafia.. cool, so you are scum.

How does that make any sense? Why would mafia avoid lynching a potential WW under the pretense of wanting to lynch mafia? What are you even talking about? Why would mafia not want to eliminate the only faction that is capable of nightkilling them, especially since the remaining WW needed to be focused entirely on killing maf in order to win the game?

Why am I even arguing with you? Your completely illogical case is a pathetic attempt to shift focus away from you and onto me.

^Here's the "false" part. If you can't see the problem there, you should re-read.

There is no problem. Town would be out of the game if NM was town. I wanted your lynch; I compromised on NM because he was a decent (turned good, by the end) lynch and that is what the town wanted. I did not attempt to shift blame to any particular person, and there is nothing inherently problematic -- let alone scummy -- with noting that one is voting reluctantly.

So you're saying your reads haven't changed since the last time you posted them? How can that be if you're actively scum-hunting?

Why would my reads change simply because I am scumhunting? What a loaded questions.



Is anyone townreading chaos? Is anyone seeing this as anything other than an attempt to avoid his own lynch by acting aggressive toward his attackers?
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:56 pm

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*question.


In post 1043, Bins wrote:As for other team possibilities, I will look at Aegor/Riddleton. For now, Aegor, can you give me your read on Riddleton? I don't think you've even mentioned him.

He has been, frankly, a nonentity to me. I will review his ISO tomorrow.
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:16 pm

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In post 1044, Aegor wrote:What are you even talking about? Why would mafia not want to eliminate the only faction that is capable of nightkilling them



Precisely
.

This is what I said
all day yesterday
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You specifically said "NM
could
be a werewolf, but I'd rather lynch this guy, who
could
be mafia. The fact that you would rather lynch a suspected mafia over a suspected werewolf in a setup like this is scummy as hell. You'd rather leave someone who has a nightkill alive than someone who can't do anything, ever.


Your reads
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change if you're actively scum hunting properly. Regardless of where your actual vote ends, your reads should fluctuate,
unless you know something someone else doesn't
. You've basically tunneled on me since you joined this game, giving no chance that anyone else could be possible scum. If you're going to claim town, at least play like one.
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:35 pm

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Bins and I, the rather uncontested town, should probably vote last, after everyone else. That way there can't be a coordinated quicklynch. Since two out of the three other players are scum, there can't be an opportunity for a quicklynch unless someone votes for themself. Not seeing that happen.
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:36 pm

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In post 1047, Paschendale wrote:Bins and I, the rather uncontested town, should probably vote last, after everyone else. That way there can't be a coordinated quicklynch. Since two out of the three other players are scum, there can't be an opportunity for a quicklynch unless someone votes for themself. Not seeing that happen.


Bins and I, the rather uncontested town, should probably vote last, after everyone else. That way there can't be a coordinated quicklynch. Since two out of the three other players are scum, there can't be an opportunity for a quicklynch unless someone votes for themself. Not seeing that happen.


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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:20 am

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In post 1046, fuzzybutternut wrote:You specifically said "NM
could
be a werewolf, but I'd rather lynch this guy, who
could
be mafia. The fact that you would rather lynch a suspected mafia over a suspected werewolf in a setup like this is scummy as hell. You'd rather leave someone who has a nightkill alive than someone who can't do anything, ever.

It is not scummy at all. If anything, it should be reason to think I am town because Mafia has more incentive to eliminate the WW than to eliminate a townie via lynch. Moreover, I am town and therefore benefit from any scum lynch, so lynching someone I am convinced is scummy is better than lynching someone who may be scum. Third, I already explained why I did not care about the NK, and I still do not.

Again, this line of reasoning makes no sense and was addressed yesterday. But feel free to prolong your slow death by bringing up the same nonsense over and over again.


Your reads
should
change if you're actively scum hunting properly.

Why? Please explain why reads
should
change.

Regardless of where your actual vote ends, your reads should fluctuate,
unless you know something someone else doesn't
.

Why
should
my reads fluctuate?

You've basically tunneled on me since you joined this game, giving no chance that anyone else could be possible scum. If you're going to claim town, at least play like one.

I gave a chance that NM could be scum.

I have found a scum in you. There is no reason for me to change my solid read because you have yet to give me any reason to think you are town.
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