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Post Post #3300 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:40 pm

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Post Post #3301 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:40 pm

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REALLY
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Post Post #3302 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:40 pm

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In post 3300, Bins wrote:

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Post Post #3303 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:41 pm

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WHAT DO YOU THINK OF DAVE, NOTTY
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Post Post #3304 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:41 pm

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In post 3299, notscience wrote:why did you quote that lol

Fixed a typo so it doesn't look like I can't verb tense
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Post Post #3305 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:41 pm

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I DONT THINK OF HIM

BECAUSE THATS DISGUSTING
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Post Post #3306 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:41 pm

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ok that read instantly got way more town thank you
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Post Post #3307 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:41 pm

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But in all seriousness yesterday he looked like newbtown but he's not in my strongest townreads so idrc

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Post Post #3308 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:42 pm

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because you instantly rejeted the read in a way i think town you would do
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Post Post #3309 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:42 pm

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:igmeou:
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Post Post #3310 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:43 pm

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Post Post #3311 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:43 pm

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its true
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Post Post #3312 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:43 pm

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are you not town? should i not be townreading you?
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Post Post #3313 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:44 pm

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do you think its possible titus ragequit because of her partners bussing
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Post Post #3314 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:45 pm

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In post 574, Titus wrote:I love gut reads... most are bullshit


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Post Post #3315 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:45 pm

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wait that was out of context sorry im confusing
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Post Post #3316 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:46 pm

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1 word and an emote

and all of a sudden I'm town

that's definitely a good jump

:|

I'm also dodging the question above

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get out of the way im trying to sarcastically attack your post

Titus would have sooner pulled the wagon on herself and made them look like stubborn tunnely town

so idk

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Post Post #3317 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:47 pm

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no i just dont except scum notty to freak out because im nullreading him
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Post Post #3318 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:48 pm

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I don't like being nullread in general so it's not alignment indicative
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Post Post #3319 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:48 pm

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Hell, I hate even "leaning" reads on me

I'm either town or scum

pick one and deal with it
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Post Post #3320 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:48 pm

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how do i sort tn and gaiden

pedit - im not picking one because i DONT KNOW IF YOURE TOWN OR SCUM
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Post Post #3321 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:50 pm

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PICK ONE DAMNIT

I'm ignoring tn, he's in my (Not really sure if I want to lynch him or not because I think pie is wrong about bulge which might mean he's off altogether this game but I don't want to deal with his omgus atm so fuck it) pile

Gaiden I'm not really sure of.
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Post Post #3322 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:51 pm

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flubber?
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Post Post #3323 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:52 pm

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I could be persuaded to vote him
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Post Post #3324 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:53 pm

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In post 3280, Bins wrote:He's also new, and I don't want to use that to his defense, but I'm seeing that too.

I'm just seeing a lot of how I used to play as town.


Empathy, sympathy and guilt are your enemies when you are playing mafia. They whisper in the back of your head that you could be making a mistake, that you're doing the wrong thing, that you might make a mistake and then you should feel bad. These are wrong thoughts that do not help you. Mercy is how scum survive, pity is how they thrive.

If Dave is a mislynch, so be it. You want to know why I don't think he is? Read his ISO. Or I can narrate.

Dave starts off his life placing a vote by explicitly declaring its an RVS vote. I don't really need to explain that that already should be getting him shit on, but it should. Then, after placing an RVS vote, he discusses how he doesn't have a problem with a day 1 lynch on principle, but he needs more data. Bins, that right there? Not good. His vote is already down, and he's discussing the merits of day 1 lynches, and how its too soon for them. Is he trying to catch scum according to his principles, or trying to fit in?

Oh, but the saga continues, Bins. People tend to be inherently honest, or view themselves as inherently honest. Breaking yourself of this to play scum properly is quite difficult. This is his read of Titus' replace out, despite the fact that it's the very first time he mentions Titus all game - yep, not one mention before that.

Then there was this stunning non-defense of Thesp where he attempted to explain how Thesp's ISO contained actual content (spoiler: it didn't), but then waffled at the end and said "could be scum, could not be scum, but lets explore other people today!"

Finally, there's the activity for the past day. Did you get a little rush when scum flipped? Because I know I did. I friggin love a day 1 scum flip. It's motivating as fuck. In point of fact we're seeing a lot less spammy non-play and a lot more cohesion and thought today. Does anything in his play today (after the long walls of yesterday) say "oh my god, I'm excited to be playing this game"? By, the by, Mafiascum has a feature where you can view all posts a person makes. Just click on their name, click "view posts." It's sometimes interesting.

So, Bins, even if you don't want to buy the fact that Thesp's treatment of dave was
scummy as fuck
, because it was - this kind of on again, off again footsies was not particularly convincing as genuine involvement and I don't even want to touch on that nondefense thing - I'd be perfectly happy to lynch him day 1. And that was before the pathetic non-involvement he's had today. Or the OMGUS.

Bins, can I ask you something important? Why would his read on Bulge evolve from "discussion to find the 3rd scum, I'm that certain Bulge is number 2" to "I don't even mention bulge in my post"?

Pedit: holy crap the spam
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