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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:30 pm

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In post 93, Boonskiies wrote:Him bringing up the vigilante constantly to kill someone regardless of alignment is odd to me. Granted, I understand how he could be annoyed by the fact I said I would hammer, but come on man. I said I was a village idiot, I'm just clowning around.


Nope. GreyICE is a serious player. Serious players do not like players who lurk to victory; lurkers earn a lot of disdain from serious players. Welllll, guess what other types of players they don't like? Trolls. The nature of a bboard game takes away our ability to size up one's body language and vocal tone. The only clues we have to use are the other players' written words. Trolls, rpers and masks take away those clues nearly as much as lurkers. Basically, in a serious players' eyes you are either scum or you are a liability to the town. Either way, you should be taken out as soon as possible (preferably by the night game). If everyone adopted your play style, this game would become very chance based (much like epicmafia). That isn't the type of game that most mafiascummers wish to play. This is why GreyICE wants to see your corpse.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:33 pm

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I agree that his vig discussion is weird. I don't think he's crumbing vig either, as that wouldn't be the wisest way to go about it. Although he could be luring a NK to him, and if he is actually something like VT, I'd say it was good play.

I get that the SK is a little farfetch'd this early in game. I'm over analyzing. Kind of how like OMGUS votes are done by townies because the person voting them initially seemed scummy because the person is actually town. I still feel pretty safe with my vote there for now.


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@Rufflig - Well, I don't know how serious he is. I obviously switched up from my troll-like approach immediately after, and yet he still goes on being a toxic player, which in itself is kind of troll-like. I don't see how 'serious' of a player he can be with that attitude, unless he's scum, which him trying to get a lynch/3rd party NK on me would make sense.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:36 pm

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Boonskiies, you'll help Town by not auto-hammering at L-1.

Wouldn't it be better to put the needs of the Town above yours?

I would suggest you not do that in this game, please. Will you?
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:44 pm

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I don't auto hammer. I usually give it some time before posting the actual hammer post in past games anyways. But fine, we won't have a troll-like Boonskiies this game. No promises what happens if someone makes me mad though...
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:36 pm

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In post 76, Boonskiies wrote:Mmmmmmm.... I like playing with Wake. Speaking of reputations...

I be a troll. People who have played with me before know this, so just a reminder:
Don't put person to L-1. I WILL MAKE IT HAMMA TIME!!!

In post 88, GreyICE wrote:Who said you were town, boon?

You said that you would play in such a way that you would behave detrimentally to the town. The only reason to consciously do this is a meta game effort to make your scum play indistinguishable from your town play.

Not only is this against the spirit of this site (play to win the game you are in), it's a detestable, pathetic maneuver. You wish to be unable to read? Fine, I grant you your wish, a place on my blacklist , and copious bullets to pump into your corpse.

Vig, kill this useless piece of smurf.


I forgot about Boonskiies's nonsense. 93 isn't "overanalyzing" despite what Boon says in 101; it's so much WIFOM I considered photoshopping his name on a box of Franzia. And on top of that, he actually stole that L-1 Autohammer from bjc in 1582 as a Playstyle Methodology? I say let's let the neighbors sort themselves out tomorrow.

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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:57 pm

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I have openly stated before that Bjc was a big inspiration to my online play. There's nothing wrong with that? Granted, I'm still newer to it, but I'm getting there.

And even so, you don't give any real reason to why you are voting me besides "nonsense" and nonexistent WIFOM. If anything it was Grey doing the WIFOM...trying to bail out a buddy, massive?
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:59 pm

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Yo, Anatole, I'm calling bullshit


I went through your games. Your last game with a neighborhood had two town neighbors. Do you know what, Anatole? They were both town. Your last game with Neighbors, Anatole.

You know what? There's a very old philosophy. It goes
Lynch. All. Liars.


I find it nearly impossible to believe that you didn't even bother to do a quick double check as part of an actual sincere scumhunting effort (instead of piggybacking on the hate). And then you dodged my question, Anatole.

Lynch. All. Liars.


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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:51 pm

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In post 94, The Rufflig wrote:
In post 87, Wake1 wrote:
In post 84, scrambles wrote:
vote flubbernugget

He confessed he was scum in another game in a different thread.


Wouldn't that be discussing ongoing games, ergo modkill?

Flubbernugget appears to be alive in approximately 8 games, atm. I don't think anyone would be surprised if he was scum in at least one of them. Now, let's just drop this toxic topic.


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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:52 pm

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In post 88, GreyICE wrote:Who said you were town, boon?

You said that you would play in such a way that you would behave detrimentally to the town. The only reason to consciously do this is a meta game effort to make your scum play indistinguishable from your town play.

Not only is this against the spirit of this site (play to win the game you are in), it's a detestable, pathetic maneuver. You wish to be unable to read? Fine, I grant you your wish, a place on my blacklist , and copious bullets to pump into your corpse.

Vig, kill this useless piece of shit.


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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:10 am

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All this talk of whether neighbours have pre-game chat is ridiculous.

Every game I have played in I have had pre-game chat if my role allows for it. It's usually quite short as you only have as long as it takes for the majority/everyone to confirm for the game. When that's done, the chat is closed.

Boon's was awful.

Anatole lying is also pretty bad.

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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:12 am

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In post 106, GreyICE wrote:
Yo, Anatole, I'm calling bullshit


I went through your games. Your last game with a neighborhood had two town neighbors. Do you know what, Anatole? They were both town. Your last game with Neighbors, Anatole.

You know what? There's a very old philosophy. It goes
Lynch. All. Liars.


I find it nearly impossible to believe that you didn't even bother to do a quick double check as part of an actual sincere scumhunting effort (instead of piggybacking on the hate). And then you dodged my question, Anatole.

Lynch. All. Liars.


Vote: Anatole


You can lynch Boonskiies when I'm dead for a twofer, fyi.

Um, Grey, it looks like there was one neighbor and he was a survivor who could add people he chose to his neighbor thread. That is not the case here apparently.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:26 am

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Upon further research, it's clear that Anatole was lying when he said that neighbors always have scum in them. If you count third party roles as scummy, then he's not lying. And it's an easy mistake to make.

FOS at Greyice for characterizing the Anatole situation and
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for Jumping on the Anatole bandwagon without doing any of his own research.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:26 am

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*pedit. Wasn't lying.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:27 am

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Pedit. Mis-characterizing.

Sorry, I have a head cold and I'm going to be stupid for the next couple of days. Please forgive me.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:35 am

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In post 106, GreyICE wrote:
Yo, Anatole, I'm calling bullshit


I went through your games. Your last game with a neighborhood had two town neighbors. Do you know what, Anatole? They were both town. Your last game with Neighbors, Anatole.

You know what? There's a very old philosophy. It goes
Lynch. All. Liars.


I find it nearly impossible to believe that you didn't even bother to do a quick double check as part of an actual sincere scumhunting effort (instead of piggybacking on the hate). And then you dodged my question, Anatole.

Lynch. All. Liars.


Vote: Anatole


You can lynch Boonskiies when I'm dead for a twofer, fyi.


You didn't read that game really well did you? That game had a neighborizer and the first person he neighborized was scum.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:37 am

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OK, so here is the whole neighbourhood talk for anybody interested. Sorry about the formatting, best I could do with the thread being locked.

BBT:

Post #1 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:26 pm
Hey TTH,

Any plans on how to start the day?


TTH:

Post #2 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:36 pm
None


TTH

Post #3 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:19 pm
I haven't had any games with him, but I've read a couple games with Wake88 and I've seen his posts around the forum (particularly Mafia Discussion). To my understanding, he's a pretty divisive player.

Have you played with Wake88 before and how do you go about tackling a read like that?


BBT:

Post #4 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:35 pm
You haven't had any games with who?

I have no completed games with Wake so I have no idea how to approach him. Is there a reason you have specifically chosen Wake to speak about?

How many of the players do you know?


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Post #5 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:03 pm

In post 4, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You haven't had any games with who?



Wake88

BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I have no completed games with Wake so I have no idea how to approach him. Is there a reason you have specifically chosen Wake to speak about?



Because from the games I have read of his, he's a particularly divisive player due to his... abrasiveness? I suppose that's the nice word for it.

BlueBloodedToffee wrote:How many of the players do you know?



I know you and Flubbernugget. I've read a couple GreyICE games.


Also, whoops.

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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:41 am

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Uh. Are you allowed to do that?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:43 am

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I don't see any rules about quoting QTs. The boilerplate rules linked in the rules post says not to quote PMs but that's it I think.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:43 am

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Yeah...

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I PM'ed the mod. He said I could quote messages from the thread so long as I don't quote my role PM.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:43 am

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In post 114, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 106, GreyICE wrote:
Yo, Anatole, I'm calling bullshit


I went through your games. Your last game with a neighborhood had two town neighbors. Do you know what, Anatole? They were both town. Your last game with Neighbors, Anatole.

You know what? There's a very old philosophy. It goes
Lynch. All. Liars.


I find it nearly impossible to believe that you didn't even bother to do a quick double check as part of an actual sincere scumhunting effort (instead of piggybacking on the hate). And then you dodged my question, Anatole.

Lynch. All. Liars.


Vote: Anatole


You can lynch Boonskiies when I'm dead for a twofer, fyi.


You didn't read that game really well did you? That game had a neighborizer and the first person he neighborized was scum.


GreyICE, by your own philosophy, you are a liar and should be lynched. You can go ahead and vote yourself now.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:44 am

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Pretty sure you have to paraphrase everything, BBT. Even stuff from QTs/PTS.

Ninja'd.

I'm surprised you can quote your QT.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:47 am

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That #3 was a Scumslip of TTH's, and the person she was talking to has played with me before. Hm...

We should lynch TTH today.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:48 am

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In post 122, Wake1 wrote:That #3 was a Scumslip of TTH's, and the person she was talking to has played with me before. Hm...

We should lynch TTH today.


Can you reword that first sentence? Are you saying that TTH has played with you?
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:49 am

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In post 122, Wake1 wrote:That #3 was a Scumslip of TTH's, and the person she was talking to has played with me before. Hm...

We should lynch TTH today.

That was my line of thinking. I just starting doubting myself after constantly re-reading it. I think TTH knew I was suspicious and decided to come after me from the get-go.

I hope my stance is a little clearer with this information out.

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