NY 176: Completely Ridiculous Mafia (Game Over)

[ika]

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@agor, nah i will when im done trolling you

[Cabd]

Okay TSO, whatcha wanna spec on?

[T S O]

Okay TSO, whatcha wanna spec on?

This reply is so damn nice I can't even be snarky in response to it.

[Cabd]

I try~

[Cabd]

No but seriously, what did you want top spec on, or were you just trying to be antagonistic and got killed by kindness?

[Cephrir]

My contribution to this game is rapidly becoming pathetic.

I have no idea what Cabd is talking about.

ika could be scum. The post above this reeks.

My contribution to this game is rapidly becoming pathetic.

I have no idea what Cabd is talking about.

ika could be scum. The post above this reeks.

i feel a 1v1 coming up...

you guys keep saying "i can be scum" w/o a vote. so if you think i am scum you votepark your ass on me now or you can gindly QUIT FENCESITTING (or doublecating or whatever the fuck the term is)

I'm allowed to say that I think you threatening to OMGUS anyone who votes you is scummy.

I'm not even remotely ready to vote yet.

See, this is exactly why I'm scumreading you.

You call ika's post scummy.
ika tells you to put your vote where your mouth is.
Immediately, you back the fuck up.

Why not just do it?

A) No it's not why you're scumreading me, you have no reason, remember?
B) I'm not going to vote someone just because they tell me to. Just because someone might be scum doesn't mean "OMG you are 100% who I want to lynch today". I guess that's just crazy talk to you, captain tunnel.

[T S O]

No but seriously, what did you want top spec on, or were you just trying to be antagonistic and got killed by kindness?

kinda a mixture but there are better things to talk about now!

what exactly is your opinion on #2105?

[Cabd]

Pretty waffly, which is grade A prime cut of cephrir flank steak?

[T S O]

do you not think it's a little odd he attacked me twice instead actually answering what he was asked?

[Cephrir]

I think it's time to start doing shit like I said I would yesterday.

Aegor: Opens on a silly note, which I would like in a void, but the conclusion of it feels a teensy bit manufactured to me (“aeronaut reacted to what I was doing, so he's town” is kind of simplistic; I'd rather have heard what about that reaction makes Aeronaut look town, which at the time I did not see, though in hindsight, I think I understand what might be town about it-- if Aegor is town, scum would know his “slips” were fake, so an attack looks kind of good, I guess. Not that I for sure agree with that assessment, but it's not illogical)

Trajectories make a lot of sense; he's been calling Toomai scum literally the whole game and is still doing it. This is hypocritical, but I'd have liked to see a bit more drive. However, I think that's still a bit closer to the town game I've seen from him than the SK game I've seen from him (my experience here is limited, obv).

Though he doesn't always lay out a map for exactly where he's shifting (reinoe scumread, for instance, sort of magics its way into existence in 1699).

Even though he hasn't done a ton, I came away with a light townread on Aegor that I didn't have before. For some reason, noticing that he doesn't have a hard and fast case against Toomai so much as a few issues here and there that keep popping up is appealing to me.

[Cabd]

Odd, sure. His slot got (mis)lynched for it back during 169 for the same reasons, so it's not per say a scumtell for him. He's not in my top tier town list though, if that's what you're asking?

[T S O]

I guess I better read 169. Thanks for that.

[TheWayItEnds]

Hey Cabd,

You happy with how much you soft claimed today or is there more coming?

[Cabd]

I dunno, i'm probably content. It's not like there's not a giant neon sign as it is?

[Cephrir]

Aeronaut: like his tone in early posts.

I'm noticing that his play here is actually kind of like mine here, pushing/prodding people without hardcore pushing much of anything, and I am okay with that. On the other hand, he's fond of saying that he's watching players and then not really following through on it.

Stance re: early reinoe posts looks overly simplistic especially now that we have a flip from reinoe. Unrelatedly, it occurs to me that reinoe was almost certainly a scum designated mislynch, and I should pay more attention to how people pushed him; I was along for the ride there, sure, but earlier on especially he would have looked like prime mislynch fodder before I started actually thinking he was scum.

I've just noticed that 747 is inconsistent with regards to Ki-Gi (“why does anyone not think this is town? But I don't like the TSO wagon because Ki-Gi is on it.” WTF?)

I almost want to suspect the “TSO vs reinoe is TvT” opinion, especially if it turns out to be right. Is that weird? It just didn't look like that to me.

Came away townreading Aero less than I was when he was in the game, but I already know his replacement is going to be an improvement.

Scrambles: Early posts contain less thought processes than I recalled. 1558's concern with looking accurate, from a newbie, actually feels right to me.

1582 is one I want to remember if this slot ever flips scum.

Train of thought on MVP is a little bit fuzzy for me.

It's hard for me to know how many points to give things like scumreading AP (pretty ballsy for scum vs a town-AP, but I don't know exactly how clearly strong AP was at that point)

1718 is a weird post. 1723 loses me a little bit, which is something I actually like. If you're trying to explain your thought process, but it doesn't quite make sense to me, that means there's a little more to it still left in your head, and thus it's likely to be a real thought process.

And, not surprisingly, I like the way he came at ika (this is not actually related to my opinion of ika). What does he have to gain from drawing attention to himself as scum here, with hypothetical town ika? Yeah, nothing. The actual fight doesn't ring particularly town or not to me, but I like the fact that it happened. The fact this is a newbie is playing pretty hard into what I perceive as the likelihood of him doing this.

My eyes glaze over while reading your posts something, but that's alright I guess.

Conclusion: Eh, my opinion is about what it was before, tbh. Town lean, still.

[Cephrir]

Cabd, how much confidence do you have in your ability to read me?

[Cephrir]

Still to come: Cabd, Mirhawk, ika, Toomai.

[TheWayItEnds]

Well there's what I implied you were claiming earlier to ap.

And then there's what you implied you were claiming.

But I feel like one of those claims requires more divulged night info.

Unless I missed it. Which is possible.

[Cabd]

Well there's what I implied you were claiming earlier to ap.

And then there's what you implied you were claiming.

But I feel like one of those claims requires more divulged night info.

Unless I missed it. Which is possible.

I'm not sure what you think i thought you thought i was claiming *deep breath from tongue twister* but i have nothing else to add at this time.

[Cabd]

Cabd, how much confidence do you have in your ability to read me?

Meh. Not awesome. I know you're in the process of adapting your methods of play to metadodge people like falcon and mastin, and i assume i'm on the list as well, but you're the type that actively adjusts his scum AND townplay to meta-dodge, not just one or the other.

[TheWayItEnds]

I'm not sure what you think i thought you thought i was claiming *deep breath from tongue twister* but i have nothing else to add at this time.

Alright then.

That's what I wanted to clarify.

[Cephrir]

Might as well table Cabd until I figure out what the fuck he's claiming and {get an answer to the question I just asked/process whatever the answer is if it's been answered by the time I post this}.

Mirhawk: 249 features a kind of shitty excuse to vote Toomai. (What's scummy about posting without thinking?) We do, at least, admit quickly that it's not really anything.

In 577, Toomai's questions have become scummy again. I seem to recall agreeing with it at the time re: DJ, though. I hate the last line of this post.

I am annoyed that he still wants to lynch Toomai 400 posts after admitting his only reason for the scumread was tenuous.

931... :/

I did like his pushes on DJ at the time but, well... yeah...

I always look for remorse about wrong scumreads but I realize that it's not indicative of anything because literally no one does it ever~

Feels like he was just totally absent during the reinoe lynch, and comes in the next day calling it terrible, yuck.

I am visibly getting tired of trudging through these isos which is why this post is shit, sorry.

Um, basically, I'm now somewhat scumreading this slot because it's tunnelled Toomai the whole game for shitty reasons, I guess? I don't know, ask me when I'm less tired.

[Cephrir]

Cabd, how much confidence do you have in your ability to read me?

Meh. Not awesome. I know you're in the process of adapting your methods of play to metadodge people like falcon and mastin, and i assume i'm on the list as well, but you're the type that actively adjusts his scum AND townplay to meta-dodge, not just one or the other.

Hmm, I think any town meta adjusting by me is mostly unintentional/a product of me growing as a player, but this is basically the correct answer (I was getting my hackles up about you not pulling massive binders of meta on me, but then I realized that wasn't actually particularly fair).

[Cephrir]

Yeah so I'm sick of this thread see you all later.

[AngryPidgeon]

Okay TSO, whatcha wanna spec on?

This reply is so damn nice I can't even be snarky in response to it.

Lold.