Open 569 ~ Hope + 1 ~ Game Over!

[Team 9]

no, we claimed bc GIF PR slipped anyway

[Team 9]

btw, if Thesp flips town cop, and you're actually a VT lolgambiting

there will be no fucking words

i will fucking eat you alive in postgame and you know that i like you

[Team 9]

so, just to be clear, you are claiming town cop, correct?

I want this on the table so you can't get out of it

[Team 9]

because caliming it was a "lolgambit" is something you would do as scum

if you are town cop,

claim it instead of just making vague references to it

and we're on you tonight

[Varsoon]

GiF doesn't slip.


If TheSP flips towncop, I'm dead.
I don't like claims. I don't want to claim.
I probably won't claim ever again.
Can this be the last claim ever?
Would that be okay?
Because I am Cop.

[Team 9]

let me make this big so no one misses it

If Thesp flips scum, we are protecting Varsoon tonight. @Other Macho Doctor, protect literally anyone else bc if we both protect Varsoon both protections fail.

If Thesp flips Town Cop, GET VARSOON TOMORROW AND DON'T LET HIM TRY TO BACKTRACK OUT OF IT BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING HE WOULD DO AS SCUM

[Varsoon]

How would I be able to backtrack out of a town cop flip on TheSP?

You give me too much credit.

[Varsoon]

What do we do if TheSP flips town, but not cop?

[Varsoon]

Maybe I should remind myself not everyone plays mafia like a Batman villain.

[Varsoon]

I'm 100% positive that TheSP isn't a cop (so long as this isn't secretly bastard-game).
But I don't know if he's town or scum.
That bothers me.

[Team 9]

final pie reads:

-Bulge is scum, even if Thesp flips scum. the way Thesp pushed Bulge reeks of a bus and I already explained why: he backed off because "lol Bulge can't be lynched" despite the fact Bulge totally could have been lynched.
-town (S->W): us, Sakura/ika, notscience, tn, Flubber <gap> Bins, davesaz
-1 to 2 scum in {Gaiden, Bert, GreyICE} depending on Thesp's flip. might also be dave. obviously, get Varsoon if Thesp flips town.
-

DO NOT EVER LYNCH SAKURA/IKA OR I WILL FUCKING HUNT YOU DOWN AND BIND YOU INTO SUBMISSION IRL. I WOULD BET MY ENTIRE LIFE SAVINGS ON THAT READ

I'm not 100% sure on GIF's updated reads, but he posted a reads list somewhat recently. I know for a fact he agrees on all those townreads.

[Team 9]

I'm just saying that, if you were scum, quickhammering because "lol I didn't believe hte claim" and then trying to backtrack out of it going "herp derp I'm a VT lolgambiting" is something you would do. do you deny that?

[Team 9]

What do we do if TheSP flips town, but not cop?

btw it's shit like this that makes me think you just did exactly that. Thesp has no motivation to fakeclaim cop as town

[Varsoon]

I'd do that as town, too.
As scum, I'd just ride the wave of hate into eternity.

You don't see motivation to fakeclaim cop in an open setup?

[Team 9]

also I fucked up my reads list. yay for being awake at 5 AM

final pie reads:

-Bulge is still scum, even if Thesp flips scum. the way Thesp pushed Bulge reeks of a bus and I already explained why: he backed off because "lol Bulge can't be lynched" despite the fact Bulge totally could have been lynched.
-town (S->W): us, Sakura/ika, notscience, tn, Flubber <gap> Bins, davesaz
-1 to 2 scum in {Gaiden, Bert, GreyICE, Varsoon*} depending on Thesp's flip. might also be dave. obviously, get Varsoon if Thesp flips town.
-

DO NOT EVER LYNCH SAKURA/IKA OR I WILL FUCKING HUNT YOU DOWN AND BIND YOU INTO SUBMISSION IRL. I WOULD BET MY ENTIRE LIFE SAVINGS ON THAT READ

I'm not 100% sure on GIF's updated reads, but he posted a reads list somewhat recently. I know for a fact he agrees on all those townreads.

[Team 9]

You don't see motivation to fakeclaim cop in an open setup?

as scum, yes

as town, FUCK NO BECAUSE IT WILL DRAW OUT THE REAL COP REGARDLESS OF ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS

[Varsoon]

You're too narrow.
If the real cop knows what's up, he'll investigate the faker at night.
Real cop gets a free counterclaim the next day with a guilty.
With an inno, real cop gets to hide in town while scum scrambles to fuck with fake-cop.
It gives a one-town buffer before real-cop has to step up.
It's a good strat if people don't piss themselves.

[Varsoon]

Maybe one day I'll write an entire argument for why claims are dumb.

[Team 9]

also, just in case Thesp is town cop, I'm calling {Bulge, Varsoon, GreyICE} scumteam now

then Bulge and Grey will roll everyone and I'll come back in postgame and quote this

[Team 9]

With an inno, real cop gets to hide in town while scum scrambles to fuck with fake-cop.

and then scum accidentally kills real-cop bc they fear doc will protect fake cop and then the fakecop gets mislynched the next day

but in all seriousness, no

[Team 9]

varsoon help me get this page top

there is no pro-town reason not to do this

[Team 9]

and I don't feel like spamming 6 posts in a row in order to make it

[Varsoon]

I'll help you, sure.

[Varsoon]

And hey, that's why I said town, pissing selves, etc.
I still don't believe your doc claim at all.
Guess I'll know after tonight.

[Team 9]

thx