Mini 1604 -- Zodiac Mafia (Game Over)

[Iecerint]

Happy with my vote on WP=TT.

[Gemini Blind]

Why? Same reasons as 279? Has your view on ToastyToast changed at all since then or is the sentiment still the same?

My bro beat me to a PV vote... Well great minds think alike. Or maybe just twins.

@ PV Dry-fit wasn't voting ToastyToast so I don't understand your explanation in 318

[Gemini Blind]

-JR

[Dry-fit]

Iecerint what's your view on the Salamence wagon? You've kind of ignored it to this point.

burn are you happy with your vote on Juls?

[Iecerint]

Iecerint what's your view on the Salamence wagon? You've kind of ignored it to this point.

burn are you happy with your vote on Juls?

I viewed it as a less-good WP wagon. Now I view it as a wagon I was never super crazy about that Toasty joined.

[RedCoyote]

Prodding burn again.

When it comes to professionalism and traditional values, Capricorn wins hands-down. This practical sign loves to tackle life in the most conventional of ways, leaving no stone unturned. Considered the most serious-minded of the signs, the Capricorn possesses an independence that allows for considerable progress both personally and on the job.

Capricorn's lucky numbers today: 14, 31, 21, 36, 46, 26

"Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change." - Stephen Hawking

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Vote Count 1 - 10

• PeregrineV (4) ( Salamence20 - Elyse - Nachomamma8 - Gemini Blind)
  
  Elyse (2) ( StrangerCoug - Xayzeck)
  Salamence20 (2) ( Dry-fit - ToastyToast)
  ToastyToast (1) ( Iecerint -
  PeregrineV
  )
  burn_209 (1) ( Juls)
  Juls (1) ( burn_209)
  Dry-fit (1) ( PeregrineV)
  Xayzeck (0) (
  ToastyToast
  )
  
  Not Voting (0) (
  Gemini Blind
  )

With twelve alive, it takes seven to lynch.
Current Deadline:

(expired on 2014-09-11 15:35:00)

[RedCoyote]

Aronis replaces Juls effective immediately. Thanks, Aronis!

[Aronis]

UNVOTE:

Hey guys.

[PeregrineV]

Why? Same reasons as 279? Has your view on ToastyToast changed at all since then or is the sentiment still the same?

My bro beat me to a PV vote... Well great minds think alike. Or maybe just twins.

@ PV Dry-fit wasn't voting ToastyToast so I don't understand your explanation in 318

Dry-fit had Toasty as a null read, and still objected to me voting him.

[PeregrineV]

UNVOTE:

Hey guys.

Hey Aronis! Are you actually a Cancer?

[Xayzeck]

Sorry i've been a tad piled up with school work, hopefully this game isn't really stalled on my input. I'll catch up tomorrow guys, sorry.

[Xayzeck]

Admittedly I've put this game on the backseat for a bit for othergames and irl, so sorry, but don't worry I'll get back into this when I've got the time

[Aronis]

UNVOTE:

Hey guys.

Hey Aronis! Are you actually a Cancer?

Ofc.

[Gemini Blind]

@ PV IIRC he objected to the nakedness and lack of explanation of the vote on ToastyToast (at the time), in which case I don't see how Dry-Fit's read on ToastyToast is relevant.


Hi Aronis! Welcome to the game!

-Rolls

[Elyse]

@ToastyToast
I think the major reason the vig should be used today is that if scum get it, they can hold onto it for LyLo and claim that whoever was lynched/NK'd has it. Using it today eliminates that possibility.

@Nacho
You had Iecerint and PV as leaning town early on. What changed?

I'm pretty happy with toasty's catchup and salamence's catchup, which means intial reads weren't good.
Meanwhile...

Vote: PeregrineV

Am I the only one who feels this Pere vote just came out of nowhere?

Instead of asking that, why don't you ask Nacho why he voted Pere? Questions like this are scummy because it's almost as if you're making sure someone else will agree with you before you begin questioning Nacho.

Toasty wagon anyone?

We should also stop fakevigging because of obvious reasons

Why a Toasty wagon? And like Xay did, it seems you're testing the waters.

burn needs to post again.
Peregrine I have no read on.
StrangerCoug is mostly gut

VOTE: PeregrineV

Why the PV vote out of these? I could see a SC vote because you actually have a read on him, or the burn vote to get him to post. The PV vote doesn't make much sense.

@SC
I don't really want to continue the discussion further. I don't know how to explain what I'm trying to say to you.

@Toasty

- I'm actually currently voting Dry-Fit (mostly for his objection to my vote on you, a null read of his).

...
That's exactly what Toasty is doing with Sala's vote on you.

Still happy with my PV vote.

[PeregrineV]

@ PV IIRC he objected to the nakedness and lack of explanation of the vote on ToastyToast (at the time), in which case I don't see how Dry-Fit's read on ToastyToast is relevant.


Hi Aronis! Welcome to the game!

-Rolls

I'd expect if he thought Toasty scum, he would welcome my vote.
If he thought Toasty null, he would question my vote.
If he thought Toasty town, he would object to my vote.

When he objected, I tried to find why he thought Toasty was town. I found nothing.

[PeregrineV]

@Elsye

- lol at 339. Your voting me for gut, telling Xay his question about Nacho's vote on me is loaded while asking Nacho about his vote on me, and questioning Gemini for voting a nullread (me).

Sala is voting me for sheeping Nacho and moving my vote too often (votehopping).
Toasty is voting Sala because he doesn't like the charactization of me moving me votes as vote-hopping.

I don't see how that is the same as 323 (which was mostly to correct Toasty's misconception I was voting Sal, and to elaborate why I was voting Dry-fit).

[Elyse]

I'm voting you for more than gut. I haven't liked any of your posts, really.

I didn't say that Xay's question was loaded...and what does that have to do with me asking Nacho about his vote?

Yes, I am questioning Gemini for voting a nullread. You literally said two posts ago you would expect that from someone.

My point is that you are attacking dry-fit for not liking your vote on ToastyToast (a nullread of his).
Meanwhile, ToastyToast doesn't like Sala's vote on you (a nullread of his), and you don't attack him.

[PeregrineV]

I'm voting you for more than gut. I haven't liked any of your posts, really.

I didn't say that Xay's question was loaded...and what does that have to do with me asking Nacho about his vote?

Yes, I am questioning Gemini for voting a nullread. You literally said two posts ago you would expect that from someone.

My point is that you are attacking dry-fit for not liking your vote on ToastyToast (a nullread of his).
Meanwhile, ToastyToast doesn't like Sala's vote on you (a nullread of his), and you don't attack him.

OK. You have anything specific you "don't like"?

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Questions like this are scummy because it's almost as if you're making sure someone else will agree with you before you begin questioning Nacho.

Was loaded the wrong word? You called it scummy, but your saying it was all in the syntax of the question.

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Because I am a scumread to YOU, and a nullread to HIM. (But I see you did ask why me OVER the other 2, so that is a little different).

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I'm voting Dry-fit for objecting to my vote instead of questioning it. see340
Toasty has stated he didn't like THE REASON for the vote on me.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Iecerint

[ToastyToast]

@ToastyToast
I think the major reason the vig should be used today is that if scum get it, they can hold onto it for LyLo and claim that whoever was lynched/NK'd has it. Using it today eliminates that possibility.

What makes you think scum wouldn't do that just because town said so?

In other news, I've decided to ignore Iecrint unless he explains what troubles him so much about my slot.

[Nachomamma8]

In other news, I've decided to ignore Iecrint unless he explains what troubles him so much about my slot.

i think he's just lazy scum tunneling personally.
meaning it's against your win condition to ignore him!

[Elyse]

Then we can at least anticipate scum having it.

[Dry-fit]

Iecerint what's your view on the Salamence wagon? You've kind of ignored it to this point.

burn are you happy with your vote on Juls?

I viewed it as a less-good WP wagon. Now I view it as a wagon I was never super crazy about that Toasty joined.

So do you have any other reads in this game? So far I've seen ToastyToast scum and Xayzeck town. That's it.

If he thought Toasty null, he would question my vote.

Normally I probably would have but in that post I wanted to give a general list of my reads in the game so I went ahead and said that I suspected you for your vote. Also I don't like naked votes regardless of the reason so any explanation you would have offered wouldn't have helped.

[Aronis]

So a quick reads list now that I've caught up.

1. Nacho - Early on his posts were super town.

2. StrangerCoug - Really liking his playstyle so far, thought process seems town.

3. Xayzeck - He's seemed pretty town so far.

4. Toasty - Since replacing in his posts have seemed pretty town. I just wasnt a huge fan of Witness Protection.

5. Gemini Blind - Seems fairly town, like some of their comments about the Dayvig.

6. Elyse - She feels town, but seems to lack direction, which can be troubling.

7. Salamence20 - Early on he was absent, but posts have gotten some better. So maybe a slight lean town, just want to see more posts.

8. Iecerint - Im just really unsure what to think of him atm.

9. Dry-Fit - He seems scummy, but if my memory is correct, this seems sorta like his normal play. So a lean scum atm, but not convinced.

10. burn_209 - His play is just really lacking at this point and what he has said I dislike.

11. PergerineV - Imo, recently his posts have been dropping like a rock. Plus I really like the wagon atm.

VOTE: PergerineV



PergerineV

Null

Burn_209