InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

[zMuffinMan]

maybe for roles

i doubt he does that for flavour

otherwise he's basically required to give a long list of characters that aren't in the game

(also i linked this earlier)

[Kagami]

Well, I don't think it's a coincidence that lemniscate claimed kocho and aronis claimed kikyo.

I imagine that the scum were at least given those three undead safeclaims (asuka, kocho, kikyo), and then potentially the rest were random.

[ProHawk]

maybe for roles

i doubt he does that for flavour

otherwise he's basically required to give a long list of characters that aren't in the game

(also i linked this earlier)

Oh no, he Will write the flavor to fit the role you tell him you want, he Just won't guarantee the safeness of said role

[Squirrel Girl]

@Y&B - why didn't you discuss my stated reasoning for finding the posts townish? Like, you ignore that the one case, half-arsed it may be, was still tied as the biggest case Abomination made all game. It is in *context* not in isolation that it suggests an issue with BoP being a buddy.

I don't understand. Can you please rephrase?

And no, that isn't a case. Abomination played poorly, and that 'case' was obviously written in lesser time that I had taken to respond to your post.

If you look at his entire posting history he made a grand total of two cases that Phase - now, he attacked lots of people, he voted lots of people, and even made noises about them being scum.
But he only made two cases.
One was on Nero, the other was BoP.
Discuss again how the case was so weak that it should be immediately dismissed?

[Young and Beautiful]

You don't need a rocket scientist to tell you that it was a terrible case. Also one of the main reasons the town advocated a policy lynch against them.

It was so weak that it should be immediately dismissed.

[Young and Beautiful]

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[Squirrel Girl]

You don't need a rocket scientist to tell you that it was a terrible case. Also one of the main reasons the town advocated a policy lynch against them.

It was so weak that it should be immediately dismissed.

Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.

[Young and Beautiful]

That's all you have to say? I wrote one whole paragraph for you to respond in a mocking tone?

Thanks.

- b -

[Young and Beautiful]

Uh, ActionDan is posting in other games but not here. He needs to hang too.

- b -

[Squirrel Girl]

That's all you have to say? I wrote one whole paragraph for you to respond in a mocking tone?

Thanks.

- b -

You wrote two sentences to repeat yourself and ignored the point I'd raised in rebuttal to the point you'd originally made. Yeah, i dismissed it as a dodge - why do you think it wasn't a dodge of my raised counter?

I am not trying to debate it was an amazing case.
I am debating that it was an impressive case in relation to all of his others.
You haven't chosen to address that yet.

[Birds of Prey]

Also I feel like a lot of the arguing BoP is scum is really circular. "Assuming Titus is scum, these things make sense for her to do as scum. Therefore she's scum."

PEDIT:
Our benevolent obv town leader decreed that we needed to spam our way to longest game, egg. Just skim like me. You're not missing anything at all.

You're hypocritical. The fact that BoP is spouting nonsense that the only conf town in the game - yours truly - is scum, makes it worse than any of the complaints that you have raised at any point.

Let's start with this is not Titus.

Let's move on to the fact that you have done NOTHING all game except try to get Titus (aka this hydra) lynched.

Nothing.

Now you can point to a post where you voted Aronis, but considering your 422 posts, that is not much of an accomplishment.

If you want to show where you've done a single DROP of non-Titus related analysis, on ANYTHING, then you'll have won proven that your tunneling is only at the 99.9% level instead of 100%.

So, while Titus is offended by your tunneling, I realize that sometimes that is the total extent of the skill set of some players. If we are lynched, or once we are NKed, you'll then randomly pop in with random scumreads which people will ignore until you are lynched or the game is over. I would prefer you improve your play, and I would prefer it now.

Like, literally this. She wants to eliminate the claimed town JOAT and conftown, I mean,

Memory of xofelf, town JOAT

xofelf

13 [LYNCH!] (ActionDan, Kagami,

Serene2

, Squirrel Girl, Oversoul, Egg,

Young and Beautiful

, neil1113,

Abomination

, shos, Majiffy, beastcharizard, BBmolla)

This makes no sense from either a town or scum perspective -> but it has obvious scum motivations and is more likely to come from scum than from town.

Actually, it has been presented on multiple occasions why we doubt your claim.
Night1- Blocked
Night2- Target died
Night3- BBMolla, claimed JOAT, gets the message, on the night after the flip of the xofelf the town JOAT. And with Molla's sum total of 74 posts over 3 game days, your choice seemed doubly counter-intuitive.
Night4- Only 3 shots

Perhaps the odds are just not in your favor, Katniss, but if it's starting to stink, then why would you expect me to not call BULLSHIT?!?

I don't know if you're being obstinate or if I'm the one, but considering that I'm the expert here on Titus, AND I have more town credibility than you do, I'd implore you to defer to me.

You think you have town credibility, but I do not think you earned it through play, nor through your highly dubious "night action choices", or in any other manner, so I would completely understand if others do not defer to you.

Regardless of that, unless you are going to be productive (my version, not yours), you can just be wrong over in a corner and help advance the game through quiet zen mediation.

~P

[Young and Beautiful]

I think you have to explain more on what the significance of Abomination's post is, and what it means for the town and for BoP.

Right now, I'm not sure I understand your post, or the point that you are trying to make. I might be misinterpreting the point of your post and this makes it difficult to take your post seriously.

Right now, my comment is that: A poor case is a poor case. It means as much as toilet paper, even if the author has only produced two pieces of it. Besides, I'm not sure if Abomination's poor demeanor was because they were scum, or just disinterested in the game as a whole.

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P edit: Jesus Christ. Not reading that.

[Birds of Prey]

Name	Flavor	Race	Role/Abilities	Actions	Comments	Alignment
Lord Mhork	Renkotsu	Undead	1-shot Watcher
shos	InuYasha	Demon	Scenter Empathic Vigilante
ProHawk	Tsubaki	Human	Shard Thief
Oversoul	Urasue	Demon	Race Miller
Squirrel Girl			Doublevoter
BeastCharizrd	Sango	Human	Poison Immune
notscience	Kohaku	Human	Faustian Pupper
Birds of Prey	Hakudoshi	Demon	Ascetic
ActionDan		Human	Poison Doctor
Kagami	Princess Abi	Demon	Faustian Puppet
Majiffy	Ryujin	Demon	Faustian Puppet
Neil1113		Demon	Neighbour
Young and Beautiful	Jijenji	Demon	Friendly Neighbour
TheGoat	Kagome	Human	Shard Cop
Penguin_Alien	Ginta	Demon	Neighbour
BBMolla	Midoriko	Human	JoaT
Egg			2-shot Tracker
zMuffinMan		Demon	VT
Lemniscate	Jakotsu	Undead	2-shot nonconsecutive Ninja			SCUM
AngryIceRink	Ryukotsusei	Demon	VT			TOWN
Mist7676	Miroku	Human	Demon Cop			TOWN
geists	Rin	Human	VT			TOWN
Xofelf	Shippo	Demon	JoaT			TOWN
Abomination	Bankotsu	Undead	Even night Jewel Cop / 1-shot Jewel Thief			SCUM
The Chamber of Kittens	Hakkaku	Demon	Neighbour			TOWN
Serene2	Hosenki	Demon	Shard Holder			TOWN
Aronis	Suikotsu	Undead	1-shot Odd-night Poison Doctor			SCUM
Nero Cain	Sota Higurashi	Human	VT			TOWN

Someone complete this. I have no time or will and this is much easier to navigate and read.

These are my thoughts on these claims, not Titus.

@Mhork-

You being undead, and all the dead scum being undead really hurts you. Oversoul is claiming undead miller and town, are you a miller too? Because otherwise, it looks bad for you.

Re: Faustian Puppets

- why are 2 of the puppets demons and one human? Why does one of the demon puppets have self-vanillzing powers, and not the other odd-man out (Human puppet) ? If Kagami can self-vanillaize to stop from being a killer, why hasn't he done it yet?

Re: Neighbors

- At least they are all demons. And maybe they are self-cleared to each other in the QT, but they need to get in here and do it. Mostly because neighbors are suspect in a normal game, so stepping up their game in the main thread should be their priority.

Shard/Jewel

- What's the difference between a shard cop and shard thief and the flipped scum role of Jewel Cop/ Jewel thief? That role design looks like they can look for the Jewel (shard?) every even night, and in theory, if they find it, can take it. If the Jewel is the sum of all the shards, then to the Shard cop and shard thief, especially if the sum of their roles is to remove from other players something that only has value to scum.

Flipped scum roles-

All the flipped scum roles have an X-shot modifier. This make me more suspicious of the claimed X-shot roles claiming to be town (Egg, Mhork, Young)

Thoughts on any of this?

~P

[Egg]

Uh, ActionDan is posting in other games but not here. He needs to hang too.

- b -

I don't blame him. This game is getting ridiculous. I haven't worked since Sunday and I can barely keep up.

[Young and Beautiful]

Well, I expect him to be back after BoP flips then, along with the lurkers Beast and notscience and friends. And also my beloved Y~

- b -

[Lord Mhork]

To my knowledge Oversoul never claimed miller. Didn't he claim undead VT and assumed all the scum to be undead?

Upon checking he claimed demon that investigates as undead, which is a weird as fuck claim. :/
I don't see how this looks bad for me though. It only looks bad if you assume undead must be scum.

[Birds of Prey]

To my knowledge Oversoul never claimed miller. Didn't he claim undead VT and assumed all the scum to be undead?

Upon checking he claimed demon that investigates as undead, which is a weird as fuck claim. :/
I don't see how this looks bad for me though. It only looks bad if you assume undead must be scum.

If you look at the 3 dead flipped scum all being undead, and read Oversoul's miller flavor claim, do you see why it looks bad?

~P

[Birds of Prey]

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~P

[Majiffy]

Mmm, no because a Vig exists if it isn't Shos and you would be outted.
Try again?

Why does Shos-SK necessitate Town Vig? We haven't seen a CC.

@Majiffy: obviously no, Naraku is 150% BP, and even if you were right, you did nothing for over two months of the game, so obvtown? lolz no

I am obvtown from my early-game play, my claim, and my role.

Deal with it.

Re: Faustian Puppets

- why are 2 of the puppets demons and one human? Why does one of the demon puppets have self-vanillzing powers, and not the other odd-man out (Human puppet) ? If Kagami can self-vanillaize to stop from being a killer, why hasn't he done it yet?

I've been asking these questions since all the puppets claimed.

The human puppet checked out flavor-wise IIRC. I don't understand the self-vanillaizing puppet whatsoever.

[Birds of Prey]

Re: Faustian Puppets

- why are 2 of the puppets demons and one human? Why does one of the demon puppets have self-vanillzing powers, and not the other odd-man out (Human puppet) ? If Kagami can self-vanillaize to stop from being a killer, why hasn't he done it yet?

I've been asking these questions since all the puppets claimed.

The human puppet checked out flavor-wise IIRC. I don't understand the self-vanillaizing puppet whatsoever.

I must have missed where you pushed that. I'll go look.

~P

[Birds of Prey]

Majiffy & Moogle/Kagami claims

Alright.

I'm Princess Abi, Town Demon Faustian Puppet.

I have an ability which I'm not revealing. It isn't mentioned in my role title; the above title is my complete title.

I have another "ability" called Deal with the Devil. It tells me that naraku can make me perform kills for him. If he uses me, I'm not informed of this. The PM says that he may or may not know who I am (he does now, of course).

I have a third ability called Renege. It's a night action that makes me vanilla, losing my first ability and preventing naraku from using me. Naraku can still use me on the night I renege.

jiffy and NS, if you guys are puppets, there's no reason not to say so (and there probably never was any reason to be cagey).

I really don't understand why town is screwed because of our existence. Ninja SK doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

I don't intend to renege.

Maybe near endgame if there's a really good reason to.

The verbiage implies that he can do it himself if he wants to.

I'm Princess Abi, Town Demon Faustian Puppet.

Really should have waited on NS.

@Moogle:

So you basically just claimed that if you killed someone it wasn't your own fault and now you are seeing if anyone else is a puppet as well giving Mafia a perfect fake claim to use to get out of kills incase they have already performed one. I find that a little hard to believe.

Tough cookies. That's the role.

I am

Ryujin, Town Demon Puppet

. I have no other abilities except for the aforementioned Naraku-ninja bit and counting as a demon.

Guessing the first ability is super-great so that reneging it is not the preferred choice.

@Kagami-

any info from secret ability?

~P

[Oversoul]

Do you have flavour for being vanilla ?

Yes, but I don't see how that is important?
You really are asking pointless questions and it does not look town at all.

[Squirrel Girl]

Do you have flavour for being vanilla ?

Yes, but I don't see how that is important?
You really are asking pointless questions and it does not look town at all.

Actually I see where he's going with this, and it looks very town to my eyes.
So I encourage you to keep dancing.

Mmm, no because a Vig exists if it isn't Shos and you would be outted.
Try again?

Why does Shos-SK necessitate Town Vig? We haven't seen a CC.

Vigs counter claim with bullets, natch. I suppose it's possible Shos is BP and thus the Vig is frustrated but unwilling to counter - that's a possibility.

If Shos is an SK I would say that the three kills on Night 3 does tend to suggest Vig pretty strongly. After all, the SK is probably Naraku, and we also know that both town and scum ahve anti-poison powers so unless *both* town and scum have a poisoner (or the mod is gakking with us) there is probably a 3rd party poisoner, and that is probably the SK.

At that point the 3 kill night, tends to go 'poison from SK + kill for Bo7 + yet another kill from some sort of Vig/additional kill mechanic'

I think it's reasonable to believe that there is a Vig.
The only other possibilities are that Bo7 or SK have kill powers they can use in multiples. While that is possible, it's certainly as (or more) possible that there's a Vig.
If Shos is SK I would tend to expect there to be a pro-town killing role out there.

[Majiffy]

SK is likely unkillable.

Kills are all accounted for. SK's primary kill is delayed poison (one or two nights), and he gains secondary kills through his semi-investigative ability.

I don't see a reasonable argument for Vig.

[Majiffy]

But, again, another fucking thing I've already gone over a long time ago.

You fucking idiots are 3 day phases behind me here.