Consulmaker - Carthage wins!

[Occult]

That's a bit Wifomy. But possible.

Tribunal Vote Count

No votes yet.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Vote: Zindaras

[Rand Althor]

Yep we found our elephant. Too bad he was the town vig though.

Vote:Zindares

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[TheEyeOfMordor]

BBRRAAIINNSS!!

[Battle Mage]

we're voting for tribunes right?
well, id like MoS and Shanba as tribunes today.
I reckon Shanba will do what is best for the town, and MoS, because seeing as i am a popular candidate today, if MoS is town, and does not use his opportunity to save me, then i can laugh at the end.
no offence MoS. :p

Vote: MoS

[Shanba]

Rand? TEOM was a vig, but unless he was lying about his kill choices, he wasn't the reason for the crushed deaths.

[Battle Mage]

he may have been lying. reading back, the Africanus Ma

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or sounds like an elephantine role.
i wouldnt blame him for lying, seeing as most of us thought the elephant was an SK.

[Shanba]

If it turns out those kills were vig kills by him and he lied about them and he shot every night including night 0 when nothing had happened I will be incredibly pissed at him after the game.

Africanus Maior was the title Scipio won after defeating Carthaginians in a battle (no sure which one

(Zama)

).

[Mastermind of Sin]

Oh. Whoops. I forgot we were voting for Tribunes. Ain't no way I want Zindaras as Tribune. I was voting him for being scum

unvote, Vote For Tribune: Shanba

[Shanba]

Hmm... I don't want a Zindie tribune either, but I'm not seeing any alternatives (I don't trust anyone left alive, really... they're either lurking, scummy, or not people I trust even when they're pro-town). Hrm. I'll abstain for now.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Aww. You don't trust the Mossy?

[Mastermind of Sin]

But I do agree that there aren't really any good choices.

[Shanba]

Heh. We've been over why I don't trust you (though it would seem that a lot of my arguments against you don't hold water, I still have a bad gut feeling about you)

[Mastermind of Sin]

:'(

[Yosarian2]

Hmmm.

Well, like I said before, I don't think Zinderas is mafia. I think he's either town or SK; town's probably more likely, but either one is possible. So, unless the consuls are considering executing him today, I actually wouldn't mind him being tribune, as I don't think there's any risk uf him using tribue powers to save a scumbuddy. The only possible downside to Zinderas being tribune would be that it would mean he couldn't be executed today.

So, let me ask the consuls. Is Zinderas someone you would consider executing today? If he is, then we shouldn't give him automatic protection by electing him tribune, but if not, eh, I don't see any reason he shouldn't be one.

[Cephrir]

Go town, etc.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Hmm. I still object to giving scum power, but if there's no way our consuls will consider executing him, we don't really have a choice. I'd be really mad at our consulmaker if they elected such consuls, though.

[Raffles]

Argh, who chose me as a Consul at such a bad time! Imbecile!

I give a pre-warning that I'm not around between 4-8th because I'm away camping again. I apologize about this.

As a Consul, I'll consider everyone fairly. My opinion on Zindaras-SK theory (elephantisis one) is far-fetched, but not impossible. I am not eliminating anyone (save Occult and the to-be-elected tribunes) as candidates for execution.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Occult, care to chip in?

[Yosarian2]

Yeah; looking back on it now, the whole "Zinderas must be a SK because he guessed right about the elephent thing" is pretty weak. It might be a decent argument if we were talking about a newbie un-thinkingly revealing role info like that, but I can't see a strong player like Zinderas making that mistake if he actually was an elephentine SK. (Yes, WIFOM potential there, but I also can't see Zinderas doing something dumb like day 1 as a SK and hoping that we'll WIFOM it, that dosn't make sense to me either).

vote:zinderas

. If someone can put together a reasonable argument about him being SK or scum, I'll re-consider it, but as of this moment it dosn't seem that likely to me.

[Mastermind of Sin]

*sigh*

Another reason I would suggest not making Zindaras a Tribune is that he's been lurking in most of his games lately, so he's not very active right now.

[Occult]

I believe zindaras is a definite for tribune.

I looked over the game and he seems to be our best choice at this up right now. I think we should look at our next tribune now. I would post more but I'm off to graduation and won't be able to post until much later (which I will).

[Shanba]

Geh. I don't like Zindie tribune, he still gives me a bad gut feeling. But whatever.

FoS Yos

Every opinion you've given seems to be following the crowd and you've been a bit complacent and wishy-washy for my tastes.

[Yosarian2]

FoS Yos

Every opinion you've given seems to be following the crowd and you've been a bit complacent and wishy-washy for my tastes.

:eyebrow:

Every opinion I've given is following the crowd? Really?

My main opinion today is that Battle Mage is scum, and that's not "following the crowd". that's a direct result of the points I made yesterday. Other arguments I've made (like arguing since yesterday that Zinderas is probably not mafia, like my suspicions of MOS early yesrtday) were also certanly not "following the crowd", they were all way ahead of the curve, opinions I stated before anyone else did.

[Battle Mage]

actually, Shanba is right. you are most certainly following public opinion by targetting me, as you know damn well that most players here dislike me/find me scummy. It rarely takes a lot of convincing to get BM lynched, and even when i come up town, you will still be regarded as helpful to the town

FoS Yos

Every opinion you've given seems to be following the crowd and you've been a bit complacent and wishy-washy for my tastes.

:eyebrow:

Every opinion I've given is following the crowd? Really?

My main opinion today is that Battle Mage is scum, and that's not "following the crowd". that's a direct result of the points I made yesterday. Other arguments I've made (like arguing since yesterday that Zinderas is probably not mafia, like my suspicions of MOS early yesrtday) were also certanly not "following the crowd", they were all way ahead of the curve, opinions I stated before anyone else did.