Open 569 ~ Hope + 1 ~ Game Over!

[The Bulge]

Bins defending me because our relationship seems to make sense. But have you seen her when I've been scum? Bins will either hard-defend me or tunnel me hard. And she is

always

right. People always point out that she's defending me, but seriously, I'm terrified of being scum in a game with Bins. Trust me when I say she will not hesitate for one second to push for my lynch.

[The Bulge]

*because of our

[Team 9]

1. Team 9, is your read on me still PoE? If not, can you present a short point-form list similar to mine against you?

No it no longer isn't otherwise I wouldn't be going this far to see you get lynched.

Short points, sure.

Gaps in your logical progression / thought progress in your posts that can't be explained.

I'm pretty sure a lot about my posts can be condensed to this one sentence, because almost every points of mine stems from this or a variant of this.

I would give my thoughts progression from this and show how it connects to my points, but I'm pretty sure even if I take my time doing so people will just end up strawmanning my points and call "ooh team 9 is calling him scum for inactiveness during V/LA."

[Team 9]

Bins defending me because our relationship seems to make sense. But have you seen her when I've been scum? Bins will either hard-defend me or tunnel me hard. And she is

always

right. People always point out that she's defending me, but seriously, I'm terrified of being scum in a game with Bins. Trust me when I say she will not hesitate for one second to push for my lynch.

The counterpoint of this that at this point you probably already know what she's looking for. If you know what she looks for, it's not that hard to imitate them and grab some ally who will spend all their life whiteknighting you.

[Team 9]

And that's why nobody ever try to read me when I'm in a hydra.
I'm too hard for them to read me when I most probably know what they look in my posts. Instead, people just read my partner who is most of the time infinite times more easier to read.

[Team 9]

Also short talk about a PoE.
If someone asks me to explain why and how I read my townreads town when I posted my PoE list, I can explain every one of them except for varsoon, who I'm reading by a gut because he just can't be read with a logic.

[Sakura Hana]

So while Bins gets here can you walk me through this?:

who I'm reading by a gut because he just can't be read with a logic.

Technically the same could be said about Gaiden, so why the difference?

[Team 9]

I thought pie asked that question, not me.
But if I did, then I probably asked for curiosity.

[Sakura Hana]

Umm that's not my point but you were PoEing Gaiden out as well while i told you that he was town, you disagreed, that's fine, but if you're gut reading Varsoon as town via the same logic im gut reading Gaiden as town then wth?

[Team 9]

The difference there is "experience".
I've townread him, scumread him, misread him, and fooled by him during my history with Varsoon and the method of reading him was formed with trial and error.
In case of Gaiden, well, I don't have much experience on him. (Nor I cared to read him)

[Team 9]

(Nor I cared to read him)

To clarify, my previous games with Gaiden.

[Sakura Hana]

In case of Gaiden, well, I don't have much experience on him. (Nor I cared to read him)

Well idk, all games i've played with gaiden i've read him by gut and i still have 100% accuracy in reading him (Caught him as scum twice, and townread him on his other town games), which is why he says that if i'm townreading him, he's conftown and if i scumread him then he should be lynched.
Similar things happened with Cabd, except my reads on Cabd were made more on logic rather than gut, and I still have that 100% accurate read on him as well.

[notscience]

Majuisy want to help me wagon Varsoon

[notscience]

Also Bins there are some people who are actually good at PoE if they get the chance

[notscience]

TOWN
22
Bins
Bulge by extension
Bert
me
Team 9
dave

NOT TOWN
everyone else

discuss

[notscience]

Hm

did I subconciously leave sakura out

[Varsoon]

I'm siding with Team 9 over Bins in this. I feel like Bins' points are weak and rely on us trusting claims Bins and Bulge are making rather than the hard evidence of play that Team 9 is looking at.
Furthermore, Bins' reason for shifting wagons is nebulous and difficulty to trace logically.

Does anyone other than notty even care about me this game?
I feel like no one cares about what I have to say.

[Sakura Hana]

Hm

did I subconciously leave sakura out

*slaps notty across the face so hard that her hand hurts*

I can take you thinking i'm scum for some god forsaken reason.
I can take you thinking i'm scum for some sort of logic or stuff like that.

But this is like you're

consciously

wanting to piss me off rather than just want to actually read me.

You want the old Sakura back?
WELL HERE I AM AND I'M PISSED AND I HATE YOU AND ALL YOUR GUTS

I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GAME BECAUSE PIEGUY IS IN IT! AND YOU'RE JUST RUNINING IT WITH YOUR BLIND TRUST AND INDIRECT ATTACKS.
I'm tired of this game and i'm getting out, I don't care if i get banned again for using a trust tell or whatever i'm done with mafia, people don't want to use logic anymore and i think it's better i stop before it starts frustrating me more than it already is.

pie:

I'm sorry for pushing you to join a mafia game again... now i understand why you don't have fun with mafia anymore... i should've realized that sooner instead of deciding to come back...

@Mod: Replace me out.

[Varsoon]

Spoiler:

Can we please stop replacing out?

(Sakura's town, though, notty. It's obv.)

[startfromtheheart]

Spoiler: :C

ride the walrus

[startfromtheheart]

I listen to u, Varsoon!

i like how ur name rhymes with pontoon and typhoon and croon

[startfromtheheart]

we all should stay and hold hands

[Varsoon]

VOTE: Holding Hands

I'm down.
Fuck the negativity.
We're here because we enjoy mafia and we like playing together.
I love all of you.

[startfromtheheart]

VOTE: Holding Hands

I love you all unconditionally.

[notscience]

ill leave. She cam stay. Sorry.