Open 569 ~ Hope + 1 ~ Game Over!

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Flubber's not even actively reacting to what's happening in this game.

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I think I'm going to do my own read's list tonight and PoE. I think it will be helpful for myself.

[Thesp]

I don't think 22 is scum.

Why?

I've felt like you're town, while thinking you've been off on most of your reads throughout the game. But this particular read really confounds me. (I could understand a pronouncement that 22 hasn't done anything alignment-indicative, but I don't see where a pronouncement of "not scum" comes from.)

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Because I'm not getting scummy vibes from their posts. I also liked their predecessor's one post.

Also they took stances I don't feel like people who just replaced into the game would jump to take.

[Sakura Hana]

This is not based on specific posts, just a general feel based on all the "Team 9 is town and so am I -- you'd better not disagree with us" type material. (note, this may have never been said -- I'm not quoting tonight because I'm in a hurry)

Uh no, The only reason you'd think i'm scum is if you dont believe my gambit/soft claim to save Team 9 from a night kill, my town read on team 9 is based off a meta read on pieguy head, and now also based off GIF's reach out.

[Flubbernugget]

I don't think 22 is scum.

Why?

I've felt like you're town, while thinking you've been off on most of your reads throughout the game. But this particular read really confounds me. (I could understand a pronouncement that 22 hasn't done anything alignment-indicative, but I don't see where a pronouncement of "not scum" comes from.)

I really don't see 22 as scum either right now. Like all they've really done is defend the Bulge, which you are townreading Dave for doing. What about 22's defense don't you like?

[Sakura Hana]

Because I'm not getting scummy vibes from their posts. I also liked their predecessor's one post.

Also they took stances I don't feel like people who just replaced into the game would jump to take.

Elaborate?

[Sakura Hana]

Like all they've really done is defend the Bulge

So what's the town motivation to defend someone like Bulge without reading the reason why ppl are scumreading him?

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*mobile posting is hard*

22 walks into this game and votes Thesp, for one. And I'd like to think from scum's shoes that when you replace into a game, you at least read a bit, and then take a stance on the major wagon. Especially people who are experienced with the game who wouldn't just avoid a wagon.

Then they said Bulge is town. And okay, sure, scum could want to get town points from The Bulge's flip, but in this case, since I'm agreeing with the argument, 22 is taking a stance a lot of people are FAILING to see. The argument against Bulge looks like two girls cat fighting with their eye's closed.

[Thesp]

I don't think 22 is scum.

Why?

I've felt like you're town, while thinking you've been off on most of your reads throughout the game. But this particular read really confounds me. (I could understand a pronouncement that 22 hasn't done anything alignment-indicative, but I don't see where a pronouncement of "not scum" comes from.)

I really don't see 22 as scum either right now. Like all they've really done is defend the Bulge, which you are townreading Dave for doing. What about 22's defense don't you like?

It's not so much the defense of The Bulge (as their argument is entirely unpersuasive), but their entry into the game is very explicitly "let's go with something fairly arbitrary, announce how arbitrary it is, and stick with it". It's designed to be absurd and entirely excusable. I can see it as being alignment-neutral, but I can't fathom how it looks town-like in any way.

(I acknowledge that part of this may be personal irritation, as when I replaced in I spent a not-insignificant amount of time reading the game and taking notes, whereas 22 seems disinclined to put in the effort. I am trying to separate this personal irritation with how I read 22. I am unsure how successful I am in this endeavor.)

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And Bulge's defenses DO, in fact, look good.

[Sakura Hana]

*mobile posting is hard*

22 walks into this game and votes Thesp, for one. And I'd like to think from scum's shoes that when you replace into a game, you at least read a bit, and then take a stance on the major wagon. Especially people who are experienced with the game who wouldn't just avoid a wagon.

Then they said Bulge is town. And okay, sure, scum could want to get town points from The Bulge's flip, but in this case, since I'm agreeing with the argument, 22 is taking a stance a lot of people are FAILING to see. The argument against Bulge looks like two girls cat fighting with their eye's closed.

Did you read GIF's reach up wall?

[Thesp]

And I'd like to think from scum's shoes that when you replace into a game, you at least read a bit, and then take a stance on the major wagon. Especially people who are experienced with the game who wouldn't just avoid a wagon.

I'd like to think you'd do the same thing from town's shoes.

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And I'd like to think from scum's shoes that when you replace into a game, you at least read a bit, and then take a stance on the major wagon. Especially people who are experienced with the game who wouldn't just avoid a wagon.

I'd like to think you'd do the same thing from town's shoes.

Of course, that's a reasonable thing to expect. But I think general "apathetic carelessness" reads town.

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And yes, I read the wall.

[Sakura Hana]

And yes, I read the wall.

Address my posts and explain them to me how those posts can come from town and more likely to come from town. Address the contradictions I mentoned and explain them to me how they are actually not a contradiction and I was missing some obvious points

22 is taking a stance

a lot of people are FAILING to see

. The argument against Bulge looks like two girls cat fighting

with their eye's closed.

Well?

[Thesp]

And I'd like to think from scum's shoes that when you replace into a game, you at least read a bit, and then take a stance on the major wagon. Especially people who are experienced with the game who wouldn't just avoid a wagon.

I'd like to think you'd do the same thing from town's shoes.

Of course, that's a reasonable thing to expect. But I think general "apathetic carelessness" reads town.

I think I understand why I think so many of your reads in this game have been bad.

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I still think it's a TvT cat fight.

[Sakura Hana]

At this point i just rather see town fail to realize Bulge's guilt and then come post-game with a "We told you so!"

[Sakura Hana]

I still think it's a TvT cat fight.

Why?

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And I'd like to think from scum's shoes that when you replace into a game, you at least read a bit, and then take a stance on the major wagon. Especially people who are experienced with the game who wouldn't just avoid a wagon.

I'd like to think you'd do the same thing from town's shoes.

Of course, that's a reasonable thing to expect. But I think general "apathetic carelessness" reads town.

I think I understand why I think so many of your reads in this game have been bad.

I actually think my reads have been pretty decent.

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I still think it's a TvT cat fight.

Why?

Because I think Bulge is town and I think Team 9 is town.

[Sakura Hana]

Because I think Bulge is town and I think Team 9 is town.

Why?

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UNVOTE:

I think I'm voting Thesp and I'm not getting bad feels.

[Sakura Hana]

Like the fact that I have to ask why multiple times is obviously because you're not doing well in this regard, GIF is already asking for you guys to show him what's wrong in his argument and why is Bulge town because he's been unable to see it, me neither.