Kingmaker II-Game Over

[Yosarian2]

There is a specific reason, but your response could give me a possible clue towards your alignment, so I want to see what you say without any prodding in a specific direction.

Most of his posts seem pretty sound, although now that you mention it, this line seems kind of wierd.

Agreed. It's not an unreasonable question. On VitR's part, I mean. I'm not certain what the case on him is, myself.

Cavane: You really don't see what the case is against VitimanR/Phoebus? Have you re-read the whole game?, Because there have certanly been pleanty of solid points made against them.

[Cavane]

Like I said when I came in, I scanned through a good portion of the earlier portions of the game. I went back and found PJ's case against him, however, so I'm more informed now on that point. I'm sure you'll understand that there was a lot of information to disgest coming into this thread when I did.

[Thok]

Doing an activity check also this time. The following people will be prodded: (None has posted since last Sunday) Cogito Ergo Sum, Lowell, mnowax, ThAdmiral

I'm pondering a deadline.

Official vote count

King Zindaras (2):

Fritzler, VitaminR

List of Execution:

SV, VitaminR

Cavane (2):
Cogito Ergo Sum (0):
Fritzler (2):
KaleiÐoscøpe (0): mnowax, Fritzler, Zindaras
Lowell (1):
Mastermind of Sin (4):
mnowax (3): (MOS)
petroleumjelly (1): mnowax, SV, VitaminR
RafK (0): Yosarian2, SV
spectrumvoid (6): MOS, Fritzler
ThAdmiral (0):
Thesp (0): MOS, SV, Cavane, Zindaras
Toaster Strudel (0): MOS, SV, Cavane, VitaminR, mnowax
VitaminR (3): SV, PetroleumJelly
Yosarian2 (1): Lowell

[Mastermind of Sin]

Ok Yos, you passed the test. Cavane's post that you quoted as being weird seems to qualify under the "Person C" argument that you were having earlier. I just wanted to make sure you were consistent with finding posts like that scummy.

[Yosarian2]

Like I said when I came in, I scanned through a good portion of the earlier portions of the game. I went back and found PJ's case against him, however, so I'm more informed now on that point. I'm sure you'll understand that there was a lot of information to disgest coming into this thread when I did.

Well, if you want to find the case against him, I personally was suspicious of Phoebus for most of the game, you can start by looking at many of my older posts. You might also want to take a look at some of the discussion yesterday when he was on my LOE, and at some of the discussion today after VitiminR's defense of Mnowax.

[Yosarian2]

Ok Yos, you passed the test. Cavane's post that you quoted as being weird seems to qualify under the "Person C" argument that you were having earlier. I just wanted to make sure you were consistent with finding posts like that scummy.

Hmmm...I guess you could consider it that, although I was mentally putting Cavane's post more in the "defending Vit. R" catagory rather then the "attacking PJ" catagory"

[mnowax]

Once again ill will post my thoughts on the LoE shortly. i am reading this thread

[Lowell]

Received a prod. Will try harder tomorrow if I'm alive.

[Toaster Strudel]

How come no one has been executed yet?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Gotta love the effort you people are putting into the game...

[Cavane]

2306, 2307, 2308 are all great posts.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Indeed, LoL

[Toaster Strudel]

Gotta love the effort you people are putting into the game...

It would help if executions were swifter.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Says the person who has made about two posts with reasoning this entire game day.

Of your 12 posts today, TS, 6 of them have been you impatiently asking for the execution to happen already. 2 of the remaining 6 posts were you blindly following other peoples' votes without any reasoning of your own. And only 2 of those lone 4 actually contained reasoning relevant to the game. And we're not even talking about good reasoning, either. They contained at least an attempt at reasoning, perhaps more in some cases. You're not one to talk about needing swifter executions. If everyone in the game acted like you, TS, the King would have no information as to who might actually be scum, because there'd be no good reasoning behind the votes made each day.

[Toaster Strudel]

98 pages, still 16 players.

The king still doesn't know who to execute, despite the valiant and commendable efforts of players other than myself.

CULL THE BLOODY HERD!!!

Argh!

[Mastermind of Sin]

I would like to suggest Toaster Strudel for execution.

[Toaster Strudel]

If it speeds things up, I welcome it.

[Mastermind of Sin]

And this is the kind of attitude that is going to lose us the game.

[Yosarian2]

Agreed. Saying "just execute someone" over and over without helping the king figure out WHO to execute is incredibly anti-town behavior. "faster executions" are irrelevent; what the game needs is for people to ACTUALLY TRY AND PLAY THE GAME. 96 pages of "I don't care, let's just kill someone" is abosultly useless.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Well said, Yos

[Cavane]

I find it amazing that anyone would adopt such an attitude after coming so far in a game.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Well, executions make discussion points. Besides, kings should be the ones waving with their scepters and should stir up discussion against the people he/she suspects. I'm not seeing the king do that at the moment.

[ThAdmiral]

I've got to admit that as much as I'd like a well thought out, reasoned and analysed execution, I also just want an execution. We've all had plenty of time to say everything we want.

[Toaster Strudel]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Well, executions make discussion points. Besides, kings should be the ones waving with their scepters and should stir up discussion against the people he/she suspects. I'm not seeing the king do that at the moment.[/quote]
Well said. We have some very clever players (I am not clever) that take the time to write beautiful stuff. However, since we again lack leadership, these discussions are occurring in a vacuum, as if we were sailing a boat with no captain and no destination.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I've got to admit that as much as I'd like a well thought out, reasoned and analysed execution, I also just want an execution. We've all had plenty of time to say everything we want.

Indeed. I also want an execution. However, the fact that NOW is the right time to be calling for an execution doesn't cover the fact that Toaster Strudel has been impatient all day, calling for one 5 OTHER times throughout the day.

That

sort of behavior is unacceptable. Just because an execution is needed now does not excuse him from his earlier actions when it was unappropriate to call for an execution.