Mini 432 - RajÔÇÖs Freaktown IV (Raj's Ladies): GAME OVER

[Mert]

I'm starting to wonder if the Paranoid Converter was a psychiatrist-type role.

[IH]

Since this seems to be coming up again.....

Maybe we have a paranoid cop? "Paranoid converter?"

I'll probably do a reread in a bit and try to add more substance to my posts sometime.

[scotmany12]

Ranger, we are assuming that there is an sk left. At least I am.

[Mariyta]

I am too... especially since I have a role that basically states that there is....

[scotmany12]

Can you clarify Mariyta?

[now a ranger]

Why would a cult leader be paranoid? I've only heard of paranoid cops, and I can't think of how the word paranoid has to do with cults.

How are you supposed to look for SK behavior anyway? The SK want to kill scum too, don't they? I haven't really experienced an SK in games on Mafiascum so far where I know there is an SK.

[scotmany12]

SK's are only going to look out for themselves ranger, so basically anyone who looks scummy and rarely looks out for anyone else is most likely an sk.

[IH]

It's pretty much a scum with no partners, so linking it to someone else would be useless.

[now a ranger]

I am too... especially since I have a role that basically states that there is....

Why did you specifically want to say that you have a role that says that there is? Just wondering.

[IH]

I am too... especially since I have a role that basically states that there is....

A what? A town paranoid converter? SK? Cult?

[scotmany12]

I'm pretty sure she meant sk, as it was right after my post which said I suspected an sk. I, however, am very curious with what she has to say.

[Mariyta]

My role description gave me good reason to believe there was/is an SK. I was hesitant to say anything back when people were discussing whether there was one or not, but now, I'm pretty sure there has to be, and I feel I may be able to clear one member of the town, should I need to.

[rajrhcpfreak]

Because of the Holiday weekend and my Birthday... You will only have to make 6 posts for Day 3.

[Mariyta]

Echo?

[now a ranger]

Yo.

[logicticus]

Sorry I havent posted recently, but work has swamped me.

Panzer definitely smells of scum right now and its a bizarre claim. But raj has had some very weird roles in other freaktown games so it could be legit.

The claim is less disturbing to me than the vote jumping that he had been doing up to this point. Thats what is inconsistent with pro town play.

Vote:Logictus

I don't like how he's very uncomittal in this post. Not to mention he seems very suspicious of him, but holds onto his vote. Looks like scum keeping his options open IMO.

I believe I posted after that looking for clarification on why he was jumping around so much with his vote, which is why I was non committal.

I just wasnt convinced he was scum based on his claim and it turns out it was a correct claim and his jumping around just doomed him.

BTW - Sorry for my absence I was traveling and then had to catch up on work, I will be around from now on.

[Mert]

One thing that confuses me is the lack of nightkills. Each night has seemed to be one short if we have two scum groups

and

an SK.

• Night One
  - two deaths (2 scum groups and 1 SK alive): Jack (Paranoid Converter), Vel-Rahn Koon (Internet Mafia)
  
• Night Two
  - one death (2 scum groups and 1 SK alive, 1 scum group wiped out by night end): Metatron (Internet Mafia)
  
• Night Three
  - one death (1 scum group and 1 SK alive, 1 scum group wiped out by night end): BillyTwilight (High School Mafia)

It seems to me that players "run over by a car" are the ones killed by an SK, so it begs the question of why nobody was run over on Night Two. If anybody roleblocked somebody (or similar action that would block) on Night Two then it is quite possible that you know who the SK might be (or can at least narrow it down).

[IH]

I believe I posted after that looking for clarification on why he was jumping around so much with his vote, which is why I was non committal.

I just wasnt convinced he was scum based on his claim and it turns out it was a correct claim and his jumping around just doomed him.

BTW - Sorry for my absence I was traveling and then had to catch up on work, I will be around from now on.

Actually it looked like he claimed based on suspicions from yesterday, and his claim didn't help at all.

One thing that confuses me is the lack of nightkills. Each night has seemed to be one short if we have two scum groups and an SK.

Night One - two deaths (2 scum groups and 1 SK alive): Jack (Paranoid Converter), Vel-Rahn Koon (Internet Mafia)
Night Two - one death (2 scum groups and 1 SK alive, 1 scum group wiped out by night end): Metatron (Internet Mafia)
Night Three - one death (1 scum group and 1 SK alive, 1 scum group wiped out by night end): BillyTwilight (High School Mafia)

It seems to me that players "run over by a car" are the ones killed by an SK, so it begs the question of why nobody was run over on Night Two. If anybody roleblocked somebody (or similar action that would block) on Night Two then it is quite possible that you know who the SK might be (or can at least narrow it down).

We also have the possibility of a doc. Yes I know Panzer was a doc-ish type role, but it may be to compensate things. Also, if there is a roleblocker, it is quite possible that it is scum.

Finally, there is a chance there is a KIT/SK nightkill immune.

[Mert]

Of course, all of those things you suggest could be true, IH. My point was that if somebody

does

have a protown blocking role then they could hold some very important information for us, possibly without even realising the extent of how important it is.

I wasn't suggesting that I believed it to definitely be the case that we have a roleblocker.

[IH]

Yes I got that, but I was just trying to fully explain the possibilities.

(Also, you joined exactly a day before me) <.<;;

[now a ranger]

Maybe one mafia group can't kill or has limits as to when they can kill.


I dunno.


Time for my myspace blog again to post what's been going on today on vacation.

[Mert]

(Also, you joined exactly a day before me) <.<;;

I would have joined the exact same day but I went and hung out at the beach instead, delaying it by a day.

[IH]

Mert, a day before. THat means it would have been two days had ou done that <.<;;;

but beside the point.

I believe I posted after that looking for clarification on why he was jumping around so much with his vote, which is why I was non committal.

So how does it excuse it's uncommitalness? It DOESN'T.

[now a ranger]

Vote: Logicticus

It does sound plausible if Logicticus is an SK from those posts that IH quoted.

[logicticus]

Mert, a day before. THat means it would have been two days had ou done that <.<;;;

but beside the point.

I believe I posted after that looking for clarification on why he was jumping around so much with his vote, which is why I was non committal.

So how does it excuse it's uncommitalness? It DOESN'T.

Because I wasnt sure whether or not I thought he was scum so I asked a question that I believed would help me with that decision. Is that unacceptable?


now a ranger, what are you talking about? IH never suggests I could be an SK so I am assuming you came up with this on your own so can you elaborate