Mafia 61: No Theme - Game over!

[Battle Mage]

Kison isnt on the wagon. :p

[Patrick]

Votecount

Kison (1) -- Twito
jah8127 (8) -- Kilroy8675, ac1983fan, LFBProd, Spectrumvoid, Scotmany, DrippingGoofball, Lowell, The Central Scrutiniser
ac1983fan (1) -- Jalyn
LFBProd (3) -- Skruffs, Kison, Battle Mage

Not Voting: Rand Althor, jah8127, Mastermind of Sin, AlexPaoletti, BrazeGoesMoo
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[DrippingGoofball]

2. if Jah comes up scum, its very likely that some of his buddies are on the wagon. it hasnt moved quickly, but it has been apparent for a long time that Jah is the likely play. as such,

i expect the vast majority of his scumbuddies to be on the wagon atm

, if he should be scum.
this also contradicts TCS's point nicely.

Does that make sense? It's making me think that YOU are scum, and not voting for your scumbuddy, haha. We'll find out for sure after the lynch!

[DrippingGoofball]

Kison isnt on the wagon. :p

And that's because he's not busing his buddy, according to your theory, if I understand it correctly? What you are saying is that scumbags are more likely to vote a fellow scumbag, than a townie, right? We should look for scum on scumwagons, and off the townie wagons?

It really stretches credulity.

It is an interesting theory in light of the fact that this town accomplished a rare Day 1 scum lynch. You are implying, indirectly, that of these players, that were on the Lamesteak lynch, Kison, Fircoal, Mastermind of Sin, Dragon Phoenix, Spectrumvoid, Jalyn, Scotmany12, Skruffs, ac1983fan, Lalmtreasteek, BM, contain a high probability of scum?

That's interesting. Because YOU were on that lynch, as is your "innocent" Kison. And that earlier today, you were campaigning for his lynch, right?

[Battle Mage]

circular argument, until tomorrow. only of consequence if Jah comes up town.

2. if Jah comes up scum, its very likely that some of his buddies are on the wagon. it hasnt moved quickly, but it has been apparent for a long time that Jah is the likely play. as such,

i expect the vast majority of his scumbuddies to be on the wagon atm

, if he should be scum.
this also contradicts TCS's point nicely.

Does that make sense? It's making me think that YOU are scum, and not voting for your scumbuddy, haha. We'll find out for sure after the lynch!

[Battle Mage]

lol EBWOP: Town should say scum, there.

[Battle Mage]

you're pretty much on the money here. In my opinion, if Jah was scum, more of buddies would be on the wagon than normal, because of the speed of the wagon. his lynch has been likely for quite a while now. Kison tried to derail it, so it could indicate him as scum, but generally i find the players ON the wagon scummier, IF Jah comes up scum.
DGB, you have to realise that not all wagons are the same. You get slow wagons and fast wagons. scum wagons and town wagons. However, you are right that both those wagons are similar in their speed, and thus i agree that there is potential bussing on both.
Obviously i am not indicating that everyone on the wagon is scum.
Now who's the one: 'Stretching Credulity?'

Kison isnt on the wagon. :p

And that's because he's not busing his buddy, according to your theory, if I understand it correctly? What you are saying is that scumbags are more likely to vote a fellow scumbag, than a townie, right? We should look for scum on scumwagons, and off the townie wagons?

It really stretches credulity.

It is an interesting theory in light of the fact that this town accomplished a rare Day 1 scum lynch. You are implying, indirectly, that of these players, that were on the Lamesteak lynch, Kison, Fircoal, Mastermind of Sin, Dragon Phoenix, Spectrumvoid, Jalyn, Scotmany12, Skruffs, ac1983fan, Lalmtreasteek, BM, contain a high probability of scum?

That's interesting. Because YOU were on that lynch, as is your "innocent" Kison. And that earlier today, you were campaigning for his lynch, right?

[Kison]

Your arguments are incredibly tainted with WIFOM.

"the people on the scum wagon are scummier"

So you're saying scum are trying to kill THEMSELVES off simply to look less scummy later on? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? This would be the second day in a row that that would be the case. Yet, you don't KNOW the intentions of the voters without knowing their alignment. They could be townies finding scummy remarks, or they could be scum BUSing their partners. How can you say which is more likely?

The only reason I'm not voting for Jah right now is because I want to see if he says anything else. I think he may well be close enough to a lynch right now that he may as well claim.

[Skruffs]

StallingChamp wasn't on the lalms wagon. THat's who BM replaced.
Just a fyi so you don't get things confused.

[DrippingGoofball]

Your arguments are incredibly tainted with WIFOM.

"the people on the scum wagon are scummier"

So you're saying scum are trying to kill THEMSELVES off simply to look less scummy later on? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

Especially with one man down early in the game, I doubt the scum is eager to bus at this point.

[Twito]

I ccan't bring myself to catch up at the moment... I'll be back platying active in 2 weeks.

[Mastermind of Sin]

*sigh* It doesn't look like Jah's going to show up to answer my questions any time soon.

[Skruffs]

Two weeks, Twito?
You do realize that seven of the last nine posts you made were about how you were going to read up, or were on vacation, or were sick, or were back from partying... etc.... teh two you did make that was worth anything was one saying you liked yoru vote where it was, and one sayign that my claim was worthless.
Shape up or ship out, seriously.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Mod: I would like to request that you find replacement for Twito

, if he's not even going to bother playing for another two weeks. That is unacceptable.

[DrippingGoofball]

Twito could vote for jah before leaving, that'd be nice, haha.

[Patrick]

Ordinarily I would, as I agree that it's unnacceptable. The problem in this game is that there are other players that need replacing even more. Twito claims he'll return in 2 weeks, whereas some people have just dropped off the planet completely. And replacements are very hard to find here, so I have to prioritise and replace the spots that are completely vacant first. I'm doing my very best to find replacements. Players feel free to ask anyone you know who you think might be interested (provided they don't know your role obviously 8) ).

[BrazeGoesMoo]

Checking in.

Still reading when I can on breaks, when I'm at home

Must gouge eyes out.

[ac1983fan]

Don't think I haven't fogotten about loveboat mafia, ac1983fan. Oh no, I haven't forgotten that AT ALL.

yes, that was my fault the town lost the game.
but, if i had voted for any of the other choices....

[Battle Mage]

i disagree with getting Twito replaced. its obviously bad that hes not here, but i agree with the sentiments of Patrick. Also, Twito is one of the few people im not suspicious of atm. hes also one of the few people not throwing away their vote.
id like to see him playing still in 2 weeks time.
BM

[Skruffs]

Well.. Jah is useless as town... or as scum... because he's not going to play. It is better to let the actual players do their night choices than to wait for the lurkers. I'd like to politely ask all killing roles to target lurking players, just for tonight, though.

Unvote

Vote : Jah

[LFBProd]

Well, with the pace this game is setting, I feel like in two weeks, not much will happen except for our responses to how the lynch turns up matriculating into the game very slowly.
On another note, I don't really agree with BM's idea that there are a lot of scum on the jah lynch wagon. With one scum gone already, I don't understand why scum would want to bus another one of their buddies this early in the game. Especially since his name has basically stayed in the lime light since the begging of Day 2 without moving out of it.

[Skruffs]

LFB - you seem to be assuming he is scum, as was BM. HE's not being bussed by his buddies, so it is in fact possible that there are a good bit of scum on it.

[LFBProd]

I'm not assuming he's scum. I think he is, but I'm not certain. I was just saying that if he were scum, it wouldn't make sense to me that he would be bussed after what happened on Day 1.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Kison (1) -- Twito
jah8127 (9) -- Kilroy8675, ac1983fan, LFBProd, Spectrumvoid, Scotmany, DrippingGoofball, Lowell, The Central Scrutiniser, Skruffs
ac1983fan (1) -- Jalyn
LFBProd (2) -- Kison, Battle Mage

Not Voting: Rand Althor, jah8127, Mastermind of Sin, AlexPaoletti, BrazeGoesMoo
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

MoS, you know you want to hammer.