Micro 382 - CREDIMVS PAVONI DEORVM (Game Over!)

Scripten · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:36 am

You know what? I can actually get behind that. Sure, let's do this.

UNVOTE: Josh_B (My case still stands. =.= )
VOTE: wolfy

TierShift · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:41 am

Trainz

Scripten, none of those points merit a scumread, even if all of them are correct. Except perhaps the sheeping while denying the sheeping, which is what I voted him for.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:41 am

Oh shit, Scripten might actually be town.

The Bulge · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:42 am

Votecount 1.6

BlueBloodedToffee (1) -

Wolfy

Clusk92 (0) -

Josh_B (0) -

Mr_Ree (0) -

Scripten (1) -

Josh_B

ShadedMelee (1) -

vettrock

TierShift (1) -

Mr_Ree

vettrock (0) -

Wolfy (3) -

BlueBloodedToffee, TierShift, Scripten

Not Voting -

Clusk92, ShadedMelee

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2014-09-06 14:41:00) (September 6).

Mod Note -

I am at camp for the week and am limited to posting in the evenings and afternoons. Sorry for any inconvenience/overdue votecounts.

Still waiting on a Clusk92 replacement. Tell your friends!

Scripten · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:55 am

In post 151, TierShift wrote:Trainz

Scripten, none of those points merit a scumread, even if all of them are correct. Except perhaps the sheeping while denying the sheeping, which is what I voted him for.

Is that so? I've heard/seen across the board that avoiding questions and promising points without delivering are common scumtells. I suppose if a majority of the town disagrees with me, I'll drop my case, but it seems correct to me.

Wolfy · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:02 am

In post 146, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
But you chose to ignore this for some reason. Why is that?
I didn't ignore it - I
liked
it

Your logic and thoughts are not consistent so far. You were very fence-sitty at the beginning as well. I think that was an opportunistic vote that you realized you couldn't explain without it looking like you were sheeping so you retracted it.

Yup - blatant sheep. I didn't need any further explanation. It was a blatant sheep.

Then you immediately OMGUS me. Why do you think I'm scum exactly?

I'm almost certain you're scum here.

So me and Scripten a scum team?
No - I see from a later post that you think Scripten might be town now.

Your "almost certain" = "worth fuck all" because you can't possibly accurately scum read from what somebody says this early in a game.
Post 27 about Scripten - "I'm so sure you're gonna flip scum."

Explain the difference between "so sure" that Scripten is going to flip scum with "almost certain" that I am scum.

Here is my explanation: BBT has insufficient information and is talking crap.

Stop using hyperbole.
Having slight scum reads at this stage is fine - being "sure" or "almost certain" is absolute crap.

Wolfy · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:03 am

In post 147, TierShift wrote:Josh IGMEOY

VOTE: wolfy

Bbt you made a good post for once, good job.

It was a crap post - stop stirring

Wolfy · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:04 am

In post 149, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Scripten, Wolfy is the lynch today.

Jump on the wagon.

This is exactly what he did when I last played with him - confirmed scum

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:04 am

In post 155, Wolfy wrote:
So me and Scripten a scum team?
No - I see from a later post that you think Scripten might be town now.

Your "almost certain" = "worth fuck all" because you can't possibly accurately scum read from what somebody says this early in a game.
Post 27 about Scripten - "I'm so sure you're gonna flip scum."

Explain the difference between "so sure" that Scripten is going to flip scum with "almost certain" that I am scum.

Here is my explanation: BBT has insufficient information and is talking crap.

Stop using hyperbole.
Having slight scum reads at this stage is fine - being "sure" or "almost certain" is absolute crap.

That's a lot of fluff.

Nice post.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:06 am

In post 155, Wolfy wrote:
Having slight scum reads at this stage is fine -
being "sure" or "almost certain" is absolute crap
.

In post 157, Wolfy wrote:
In post 149, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Scripten, Wolfy is the lynch today.
Jump on the wagon.

This is exactly what he did when I last played with him -
confirmed scum

Hi Wolfy.

You're looking pretty desperate right now.

Wolfy · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:08 am

In post 148, Scripten wrote:
FoS: Wolfy
- What in the world are you doing? How did you expect to get a reaction without engaging Josh_B at all? Why are you blatantly contradicting yourself, and why are you backing down at the first sign of suspicion? And what the hell is an OMGUS doing here? Aye-yi-yi...

I voted him.
He responded in a way that a townie would respond to a vote at that point.
He didn't respond to me in the same way that he was responding to you.

Your jump on wagon is just way wrong.

FoS: Scripten

In post 91, Wolfy wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if BBT & Scripten were the scum team - distancing with aggressive push in the full knowledge that we're not going to lynch on the basis of this discussion!

You heard it here first.

Wolfy · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:10 am

In post 158, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 155, Wolfy wrote:
So me and Scripten a scum team?
No - I see from a later post that you think Scripten might be town now.

Your "almost certain" = "worth fuck all" because you can't possibly accurately scum read from what somebody says this early in a game.
Post 27 about Scripten - "I'm so sure you're gonna flip scum."

Explain the difference between "so sure" that Scripten is going to flip scum with "almost certain" that I am scum.

Here is my explanation: BBT has insufficient information and is talking crap.

Stop using hyperbole.
Having slight scum reads at this stage is fine - being "sure" or "almost certain" is absolute crap.

That's a lot of fluff.

Nice post.

Answer the question.
Question dodging = scum

Wolfy · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:13 am

In post 159, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 155, Wolfy wrote:
Having slight scum reads at this stage is fine -
being "sure" or "almost certain" is absolute crap
.

In post 157, Wolfy wrote:
In post 149, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Scripten, Wolfy is the lynch today.
Jump on the wagon.

This is exactly what he did when I last played with him -
confirmed scum

Hi Wolfy.

You're looking pretty desperate right now.

Hi BBT,
you're looking exactly the same scum now as you were in the previous game I played with you.

You've already been certain of two scum.
You're not answering questions, just accusing me of fluff and being desperate.
When you wanted me to put the BBT/SCripten scumteam to the test you suggested I vote Scripten
not yourself

townie says "vote me"

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:17 am

Wolfy, can we still be friends after your lynch?

Scripten · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:18 am

In post 160, Wolfy wrote:
In post 148, Scripten wrote:
FoS: Wolfy
- What in the world are you doing? How did you expect to get a reaction without engaging Josh_B at all? Why are you blatantly contradicting yourself, and why are you backing down at the first sign of suspicion? And what the hell is an OMGUS doing here? Aye-yi-yi...

I voted him.
He responded in a way that a townie would respond to a vote at that point.
He didn't respond to me in the same way that he was responding to you.

Can you clear these up, please? I am not following what you mean at all. Yes, you voted him. He asked you a question and you ignored it. That's not a tell, neither scum nor town. What the hell, man? Also, FoS because I voted you? OMGUS-y crap. Let's not do that.

BBT:

I do not appreciate that I'm suddenly "potential town" because I agree with you. What's with that? That's not a town-sided attitude to have. That's self-serving meta BS. Considering your strong feelings on the matter, isn't that something you should be avoiding?

PPE: Post 162 does make sense. However, your answers have not satisfied me, Wolfy.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:23 am

In post 164, Scripten wrote:

BBT:
I do not appreciate that I'm suddenly "potential town" because I agree with you. What's with that? That's not a town-sided attitude to have. That's self-serving meta BS. Considering your strong feelings on the matter, isn't that something you should be avoiding?

PPE: Post 162 does make sense. However, your answers have not satisfied me, Wolfy.

I wouldn't expect you to bus your partner right now. When you made your first post restating your case on Josh it looked like you were trying to keep a counter-wagon going to oppose the Wolfy one I was starting.

However, you changed that and voted for him. Therefore, right now, you're probably town and Wolfy is scum.

Wolfy's reaction should make it clear to everyone he is scum.

Self-serving meta BS? I'm not sure what you mean here.

Wolfy · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:24 am

In post 164, Scripten wrote:
In post 160, Wolfy wrote:
In post 148, Scripten wrote:
FoS: Wolfy
- What in the world are you doing? How did you expect to get a reaction without engaging Josh_B at all? Why are you blatantly contradicting yourself, and why are you backing down at the first sign of suspicion? And what the hell is an OMGUS doing here? Aye-yi-yi...

I voted him.
He responded in a way that a townie would respond to a vote at that point.
He didn't respond to me in the same way that he was responding to you.

Can you clear these up, please? I am not following what you mean at all. Yes, you voted him. He asked you a question and you ignored it. That's not a tell, neither scum nor town. What the hell, man? Also, FoS because I voted you? OMGUS-y crap. Let's not do that.

His question was the response to me that said town. He was responding to you in a totally different way.
FoS because you voted me - sure. sheeping BBT. What's wrong with OMGUS? You do. So I should be allowed to say it.

BBT:
I do not appreciate that I'm suddenly "potential town" because I agree with you. What's with that? That's not a town-sided attitude to have. That's self-serving meta BS. Considering your strong feelings on the matter, isn't that something you should be avoiding?

Now this is better - maybe you don't don't S that much after all.

PPE: Post 162 does make sense. However, your answers have not satisfied me, Wolfy.

It's only my wife that I satisfy these days.

When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle. It makes the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain and choke himself.

TierShift · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:25 am

In post 156, Wolfy wrote:
In post 147, TierShift wrote:Josh IGMEOY

VOTE: wolfy

Bbt you made a good post for once, good job.

It was a crap post - stop stirring

Nah I agree with that post mostly

In post 164, Scripten wrote:

BBT:
I do not appreciate that I'm suddenly "potential town" because I agree with you. What's with that? That's not a town-sided attitude to have. That's self-serving meta BS.

Hi fellow this is exactly what I thought when I saw BBT's 'scripten might be town' post.

Wolfy · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:27 am

In post 165, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 164, Scripten wrote:

BBT:
I do not appreciate that I'm suddenly "potential town" because I agree with you. What's with that? That's not a town-sided attitude to have. That's self-serving meta BS. Considering your strong feelings on the matter, isn't that something you should be avoiding?

PPE: Post 162 does make sense. However, your answers have not satisfied me, Wolfy.

I wouldn't expect you to bus your partner right now. When you made your first post restating your case on Josh it looked like you were trying to keep a counter-wagon going to oppose the Wolfy one I was starting.

However, you changed that and voted for him. Therefore, right now, you're probably town and Wolfy is scum.

Wolfy's reaction should make it clear to everyone he is scum.

Self-serving meta BS? I'm not sure what you mean here.

So if I change and vote for someone else will I become town too?
hyperbole.
crap.

Have a scum read on me by all means - you're going to look (you already look) pretty stupid with your

categoric

statements first that Scripten was scum and now that I am scum.

Wolfy · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:36 am

In post 165, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Self-serving meta BS? I'm not sure what you mean here.

He means you're now using as argument what you stated before you didn't approve of =

scum

.
WIFOM would have been a better choice.

A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking.

Scripten · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:03 am

Actually, I specifically meant that BBT's "Agrees with me = towntell" is BS. Tiershift got it, though.

BBT:

The whole conf bias thing is getting old as well. It's like you're setting up a meta for people in other games to look back on. Smells of gaming the system, and that's really uncool.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:05 am

In post 170, Scripten wrote:Actually, I specifically meant that BBT's "Agrees with me = towntell" is BS. Tiershift got it, though.

BBT:
The whole conf bias thing is getting old as well. It's like you're setting up a meta for people in other games to look back on. Smells of gaming the system, and that's really uncool.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Scripten · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:18 am

In post 166, Wolfy wrote:
His question was the response to me that said town. He was responding to you in a totally different way.

You mean this? (122) I don't follow. How does that say town? And if that was all you were looking for, why did you wait until someone made a go at you before you changed your vote?

BBT:

Basically, you've been going through this game saying that people who agree with you are town. Your sudden town read on me supports that. Being so damn cocksure of your reads, especially on day 1, is folly. I said this before and I hold by it. If you're trying to manipulate your meta, please STOP. It's just making it more difficult for the rest of the town.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:27 am

In post 172, Scripten wrote:

BBT:
Basically, you've been going through this game saying that people who agree with you are town. Your sudden town read on me supports that. Being so damn cocksure of your reads, especially on day 1, is folly. I said this before and I hold by it. If you're trying to manipulate your meta, please STOP. It's just making it more difficult for the rest of the town.

165 is why you're reading town to me right now. It's not because you agree with me.

I am intrigued though. What makes you think I am trying to manipulate my meta? Such a strange thing to say given my stance on meta.

Scripten · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:42 am

In post 173, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
165 is why you're reading town to me right now. It's not because you agree with me.

I am intrigued though. What makes you think I am trying to manipulate my meta? Such a strange thing to say given my stance on meta.

It's because you're pushing every single read you get like there's no tomorrow. It is scummy to me, but I'm reading town from you for everything else. So the only other motivation I can see is that you're trying to manipulate your meta. Either way, it's putting the town at risk.