Open 569 ~ Hope + 1 ~ Game Over!

[Jakuzure Nonon]

VOTE COUNT

1.10

(0) tn5421:

(1) SXTLHGaiden:

davesaz

(0) startfromtheheart:

(0) Bitmap:

(0) Varsoon:

(0) Sakura Hana:

(2) Titus:

SXTLHGaiden, startfromtheheart

(1) The Bulge:

Titus

(1) Team 9:

Bitmap

(0) davesaz:

(0) Flubbernugget:

(1) notscience:

(L-2) Bins:

notscience, Varsoon, Team 9, Flubbernugget, Sakura Hana

Not Voting:

tn5421, The Bulge, Bins

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch. The day will end on

Monday, September 8th, 2014 @ 11:34pm PDT,

which is in

(expired on 2014-09-09 02:34:00).

[tn5421]

RVS (excused fluffposting):

vote: Sakura

thx a lot for making me join a game when I shouldn't be signing up for any games. are you town?

-Rumia

dayvig: Varsoon

-Rumia

I shall try. however I have literally 0 motivation for mafia atm, so I don't have any confidence

are you obvtown yet?

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FLUFFPOSTING:

It should be a sin to dream this big.

no comment to me dayvigging you?

this is supposed to be war

-Rumia

and they prob have a QT spy too. even though it's still a bastard role

who's the scumvig who can also become a 2nd godfather if he wants?

-Rumia

no shit. I'm still fucking mad at that setup. especially after you all lolkilled me N1

and we were totally gonna make the longest masonry ever, until that happened. I still haven't seen anyone break 300 like we did that quickly \o/

-Rumia

the best part about that mason QT was how we posted so quickly we got the post numbers to desync

I still haven't been able to do that anywhere else

I legit thought we'd break 1000 posts if we were able to keep going

is that serious?

either way, I am offended you don't trust me when we've cleaned house together previously

-Rumia

You may clean houses, but I clean toilets. I can see you're full of shit from a mile away.

serious or not serious?

bc I am actually at least somewhat serious. or semi-serious, anyway

-Rumia

got anything better then, Varsoon god-of-mafia-sama?

same with you Gaiden

top

Then why are you not voting any of them you cheeky scumfuck

-Cirno

Mostly fluff. Notscience is noncommittal as always.

The moment he reaches L-1.

-C

I'm pretty sure you're scum.

Pretty sure I'm not.
(Note to self: kill Bitmap n1 silently)

Good Avatars are avatars that I like.
GuyInPie is currently null.
Though I have Pie in the permanent "Paranoia Zone".

And that's why I'm here for, right?
I'm easy as hell to read if you know what to look for.

Sakura, why do you think NS was run up so quick but the game is stillbehaving like RVS for the most part?

Because people don't seem to want to analyse or question? That's my guess.

No its because notsci huge wagon on early d1 is nothing unusual.

-C

If it's not unusual why did you have to say so?

hi guys

--Mystia

Varsoon is a charming guy and pie suck at making a good RVS vote.

Oh hi fery it's about time you chime in

>implying rulebreaking

To be fair, I appreciate being the third wheel so I can drop in whenever I feel.

-M

>rulebreaking

sorry that was too many caps, people will realize I'm not ffery.

Pie's way too srs to make the best random vote.
The list of head is in the OP.

We're Cirno, Rumia and Mystia at the moment!

But don't tell Feirei that!

I'm the long-lost third member tee hee hee.

-M

(Plus fery and kuribo)

(Plus fery and kuribo)

Right, sorry, forgot them.

But seriously, I have a varying degrees of townreads on Dave guy, flubber, notsci, and Titus.

P-Edit: when I'm in hydra, people tend to not read me and try to read my hydra partner instead (without much accuracy), so that's my first "hi guys I exist too" post.

Most of this is fluff, but includes some reads. 1/10 effort.

Tbh, with this playerlist, it's not a surprise if the RVS reaches 15+ pages

You mean the fact that you're in the playerlist?

You should be grateful that I'm even posting at this point because that's not what I promised with pie when we hydra'd. I was supposed to be at the background and let pieguy do all the work.

-C

Serious about what?

Exactly.

Tbh i find you harder to read than pieguy GiF

But what about me?

-M

*banhammer*

Dammit mystia

Dammit Cirno!

The mod has banished me to the Shadow Realm!

Goodbye woooorrrrrrrlllllldddddd!

-M

;-;

-C

VOTE: Bins

asfsafsafsafsafhadh aetsaf sadfas

No it's MVP for most visageous player. (Is visageous even a word?)

Which one?
This one or MVP?

Because this one technically has 9 heads while MVP is only 3.

-C

lolwut

Why do you have 9 heads

lmfao

Me, pieguy, natirasha, hanasawa, fery, kuribo, nacho, thenewearth, and Varsoon for future member :3

-C

Currently only 2. Third one has posted but he was banished into the shadow realm.

-C

As I said, third head posted.

P-Edit: yes.

Varsoon's town.
You touch him, I cast Icicle Fall ~Easy~ on you.

-C

No pie is Rumia.

Mystia was... someone else lol

Oh. How do I know this isn't one of scum-Gif's tricks to buddy me like Scum gif always does?

Leap of Faith obviously.

hey bitmap rvs is over

"Help me Bitmap!"

Yeah I fucked up that vote because I misspelled "leap of faith".
But I was too late when I realized that.
(Oh also, thank you for reminding me of mutiny on pieguy)

The fuck happened to this game

-Rumia

@270 : Excluded because of video.

a

Let me introduce you to notsci's scumgame...

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=28540

/runs

-C

and I don't like the way flubber jumped onto that wagon either

-Rumia

Fluff. Why don't you like the way Flubber joined a wagon?

Well i don't know, I'd expect a reach out to be a "Let's work together and beat the crap out of scum!" instead of a "Here let me vote you and ask you if you're town".

and you didn't see "are you town" as an invitation to work together?

cos that's what it was

-Rumia

I wanna vote tn. that wall has literally nothing of substance in it

-Rumia

So does 90% of your post history, as evidenced by this post.

2

macho

doctors

I personally didnt like his cherrypichking

where was he cherrypicking? I can't find it

-Rumia

Like the only thing i remember of him related to mafia is him linking an ongoing mafia game on irc mafia and me getting mad about it and that's about it...

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?auth ... 8&t=199573

not too focused on it bc #lolmeta, but there it is

it's literally right above you

-Rumia

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ALT-SLIPPING:

VOTE: Bins

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ACTUAL CONTENT (now with 100% orange juice):

legit townread on dave

discuss

-Rumia

I'm null.

do you think a newb scum who almost certainly is in his 1st game would post smth like this:

Feel free to post incriminating evidence so that I may use it against you later.

immediately when the game starts?

rather, the entire opening came across as open in a way that gave me town vibes. it's possible but it seems unlikely a newb scum could fake that right off the bat.

get on my level n00b

He/She could have hundreds of games of offsite experience. You're the fool if you don't take every player seriously, at least until they prove you shouldn't.

Notscience wagon is hot.
I'm not getting any answer to my question and notsci is bouncing around into conversations without dedicating heavily to them.
Then again, that's fairly null. Still, it's a good excuse to park a vote and squeeze a guy.

since when was not answering a question that's not supposed to be serious a good excuse for squeezing a guy?

also I'm not sure what you even mean by the 2nd point. where is NS doing that?

-Rumia

That's notscience being notscience as far as anyone can tell.

@ 83: Too big to quote, but extension of above quote.

why?

Gut.
And my gutread on Varsoon is never wrong.

-C

That was when I tried to logic-read you~

Always mix the two. Best results.

After those two games I learned that my gut read is far more superior to my logic read.

@255 Naked votes are not okay.

RECAP OF PREVIOUS EVENTS SO FAR BECAUSE I'M A NICE GUY

- Wild "Mystia" appears and soon shunned to shadow realm.
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VOTE: Bins

WAGON HO

But seriously, she's scum

But notsci, you lovable piece of town you, why is she scum?

Because she's avoided talking about anything and is avoiding the thread

and she insulted my honor

But on a more serious note, townreading atm-

Pie- I don't think he sounds like he's spent all of pregame spamming the scum QT

Varsoon- I'll probably reevaluate this later but I haven't hated what he's posted

dave- Because gif said so and pie seemed town so he gets to be town

bulge- Because obv is bins is scum he is town

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bulge- Because obv is bins is scum he is town

What. (Also why didn't Bins comment on this?)

-

(because it's a joke and i just laughed)

-*ppl votes Bins*

-*shit happens*

You're welcome.

Halfass recap, better than nothing i guess.

I have NS and dave as town. my original dave townread was kind of a bullshit reaching reason in order to try and get the game away from RVS, but both me and GIF liked his 3rd post. Sakura is null-town, but there was smth that pinged me:

I dunno I found him opening with a vote and asking me if i'm town kinda awkward, I'd think pie would omit the "Are you town?" part and just wait for a reaction, It maaay be a bit of a stretch, but that's what I'm going with for the time being.

this is indeed kind of a stretch, but that's not the point. why was your response to my reach out to alienate yourself from me right from the get go? this is not what I was expecting from you, especially given you told me you really wanted to play another game with me.

-Rumia

Oh my god actual analysis?
As noted by Sakura earlier, it's because of HOW you reached out; it looks noeffort/scum rather than town.

I didn't see it as a reach out, i saw it as a "OMG PIEGUY'S BEING WEIRD" kind of stuff.

how was it not obvious it was a reach out? what did you think I was going for instead?

-Rumia

Laziness would be my assumption.

tn what the hell are you trying to accomplish with anything in that wall? I'm used to you providing content when you're town. that wall has 0.

-Rumia

You're not exactly innocent yourself. Your post history is 85-90% fluff.

Nope I didn't, when i think of reach outs i think of like a paragraph or a wall text like the stuff i once said to town where i was hard defending scumcho or when i reached out to notty in touhou upick 2, Not just a simple "Are you town?" there's no emotion in that to be reach out.

what's your current thoughts on tn?

-Rumia

Sure, have someone else do your thinking for you so you can get back to fluffposting. I don't see how people see this and don't think "scum".

The game is still in RVS and yet you accuse ME of not having substance?

there are several things that have happened that aren't RVS

-Sakura's scum read on me
-Bins wagon and the way various ppl interacted with it
-most of the ppl have legitimate content
-our reads are all serious

so, try again

-Rumia

thispost.dll

My current thoughts is that I didn't like his wall. Nor the fact that he ended the wall with no conclusions but with a joke.

how does this fit into your meta view of tn?

I hate to bring up #lolmeta but, iirc, when tn's been town previously he's had no problem spinning content out of RVS and trying to drive the game forward. the exact opposite of this game where he seems to be content with having no content and floating along (not to mention, he completely missed everything that actually did happen).

This game has less content than a grocery cart with $20 worth of groceries in it. I'm not the best at creating something from nothing.

you and I must have different definitions of cherrypicking. mine is when someone selectively applies logic to one person but not another person.

although I do agree the lack of of anything substantial is scummy

-Rumia

By that logic, the very existience of this game is scummy because there is nothing of real substance here.

So now it seems like YOU are cherrypicking.

Which is it?

there are several things that have happened that aren't RVS

-Sakura's scum read on me
-Bins wagon and the way various ppl interacted with it
-most of the ppl have legitimate content
-our reads are all serious

try again

-Rumia

Leaving this here for when you inevitably bitch at me for posting content.

Also does anyone else find it odd that tn complains about the lack of content and he doesn't generate any?

^this

-Rumia

nvm tn might be town. I'd rather give him some room for now

@tn:

you've already got a summary of a lot of the content that happened. do you have any comments about any of it?

-Rumia

Flip-flopping your read because you've pissed me off enough that replacing out seems to be a decent option.

nvm tn might be town. I'd rather give him some room for now

@tn:

you've already got a summary of a lot of the content that happened. do you have any comments about any of it?

-Rumia

Here, this post.



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[Sakura Hana]

you act as if my game memory is perfect

Unless it's a game I majorly fucked up in I don't really remember it

Does you fake claiming masons with nati ring a bell?

[notscience]

Thought it was that game

[notscience]

But I also tried to use bloodthirst as a tell for you after that and it was wrong

[startfromtheheart]

At coffee shop

Have a vote

VOTE: notscience

[Bins]

i cant commit myself to read the sakura tn arguement

[Flubbernugget]

390 has my eye on Team 9 now.

why?

-Rumia

I have no reads from the threat to replace out. Yours are weak and you've even admitted it. But you still want to give tn room. Meanwhile tn continues on this whole fluff rant while still trying to prove everything is fluff instead of pushing for reads. And the room you're giving him is just making him defensive. Maybe you're onto something, but if you're not, I'm scum reading your defense.

[Sakura Hana]

Re: Your wall to team 9
So you find his posts wrt talking with me about the reach out ok, but you call my responses that i (and apparently you) was calling him out for fluff? WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN.

[tn5421]

121 isn't fluff is stating that i have trouble reading those 2.

Doesn't warrant its own post.

124 is sarcasm poking at Gaiden's idea of sorting Titus.

Doesn't warrant its own post.

126 is explaining said sarcasm.

See above

130 is me explaining something?.

Might have miscategorized that. You comment that the game is in RVS and do nothing to get it out of that, however.

133 me questioning GiF

put it there because unproductive wifom

151 me getting mad at people being still on RVS so i ended it.

Which did a whole lot of nothing to improve the quality of this game.

186 is me voting for scum bins.

I disagree on your read and the reasoning included in the post (which i read as fluff)

190 is me explaining said vote.

"I might as well". Please, I know you can play better than that. Fucking awful reasoning for non-RVS (As you claim)

263 is me stating a read.

Everyone says that everywhere, I considered it fluff/meme bullshit

271 is me helping support my read on notty.

didn't follow the links, also fuck meta

273 this is fluff, but im surprised you find that as a scummy attitude lol.

How the fuck are people supposed to learn about new things with people intentionally misdirecting them?

289 me telling pie why i didnt see his post as a reachout.

While I agree with the point, it looks/looked reactionary when I was scanning your ISO. Context would probably have helped.

296 further explanation.

There weren't really any conclusions to be made other than the fact that this game is a mockery of Mafia.

I'm starting to think the issue here is your perception of fluff.

The issue here is the lack of seriousness in this game.

>blames me for being in rvs mode on my first post in the game

I was already seriously voting pieguy when i entered the game and had a legit townread on notty, why do you think you can't do the same?

Because for me the game just started an hour or so ago.

Everyone else is doing exactly the same fucking thing. Why single out Bins?

The only people I see that still aren't being serious are you, Bins and flaffy or whatever, that's 3 and we have a scumteam of 3 this game, SURPRISE!.

Wow, 3 townies dead, scum must love having you essentially on their side.

Mind backing this up with proof?

You made a post about scumreading bins joke or not, yet you didn't vote her, and then when we pointed it out she immediately proceeded to scumreading you.

I don't scumread bins, your intentional misunderstanding is not my problem.

There wasn't really any serious content to grab.
Like I said earlier, this is a mockery of what Mafia is supposed to be.

Not really, i'm still not seeing why you see all that as fluff, as I guessed earlier, I'm starting to think the issue is your perception of fluff.

We'll see.

And yet you don't cite or link to them, leading me to believe you WANT your few points to be lost in the mire of bullshit.

Not really? they are easy to find, my ISO has very few fluff and I've already pointed out why your perception of fluff is farfetched.

And yet over 50% of your posts are fluff with less than 10% content.

Wow, this is like what, your third serious post this game? Congratulations, we might be actually playing mafia by page 50.

I am playing mafia, what game are you playing? Maybe i need to pot "SERIOUS POST" in bold on every post i'm not fluffing for you to realize people are playing the game except you?

Doing that only convinces me more that you truly aren't serious about playing.

I asked you for a link. You refuse to provide a link.
Do you know who else denies information to the public?
Scum.

Pieguy showed you the road, it's your choice to walk it or not.

And why should I take explicit information denial as anything but a scum-motivated action?

[tn5421]

do you think tn-scum would get visibly frustrated enough with you to consider replacing out?

After I got banned for doing stuff like that?

tn!any-alignment is frustrated enough to replace out.

[tn5421]

Sakura, we did this in Dummyville, it ended with you shooting Caligno (who was town)

[tn5421]

Re: Your wall to team 9
So you find his posts wrt talking with me about the reach out ok, but you call my responses that i (and apparently you) was calling him out for fluff? WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN.

I think i broke my internal filter halfway thru and said 'FUCK IT PUT IT HERE'

I actually am on your side of the whole 'reachout' thing, Team 9 could have put a lot more effort into it, which you would know if you read my replies to Team 9.

[tn5421]

_Open 569_ + _Wall Wars_ = _Yet another Setsuen wallpost_.

[Sakura Hana]

Doesn't warrant its own post.

Why not?

Doesn't warrant its own post.

Why not?

See above

Why not?

Might have miscategorized that. You comment that the game is in RVS and do nothing to get it out of that, however.

Considering that unlike you, I've already been playing seriously from the start, and when you came in you had no intention whatsoever to move the game away from such "RVS" as you call it. Hipocrisy.

put it there because unproductive wifom

What makes you feel that way? And why is it unproductive? Why is it wifom?

Which did a whole lot of nothing to improve the quality of this game.

It stopped the headless chickens that wanted to not post content because notty hadn't reached L-1.

I disagree on your read and the reasoning included in the post (which i read as fluff)

It's still a read and a reasoning, whether you agree with my read or not doesn't make the post fluff, instead you could have spend your time explaining why you disagree with it.

"I might as well". Please, I know you can play better than that. Fucking awful reasoning for non-RVS (As you claim)

So is me pursuing a lynch and see how it ends "bad play"? And why do you categorize "bad play" = "fluff"? Still it's content, regardless of where you liked what was posted or not, your reluctance to analyse or question said content and instead dismiss it as fluff, is more eyebrow rising tho.

Everyone says that everywhere, I considered it fluff/meme bullshit

What gave you this impression?

didn't follow the links, also fuck meta

So your logic is that you dont like meta = meta related posts are fluff? Sorry but nope. Try again.

How the fuck are people supposed to learn about new things with people intentionally misdirecting them?

What makes you think im intentionally misdirecting them when i was obviously commenting on GiF's video of posting an old touhou song?

While I agree with the point, it looks/looked reactionary when I was scanning your ISO. Context would probably have helped.

So in turn you didn't actually read the thread... GOOD JOB!

The issue here is the lack of seriousness in this game.

If you see that as an issue, what are YOU doing to fix it?

Because for me the game just started an hour or so ago.

Well that was your choice, not mine.

Wow, 3 townies dead, scum must love having you essentially on their side.

While i was being snarky with that response, what makes you so confident that both Bins and Flaffy are town?

And yet over 50% of your posts are fluff with less than 10% content.

As much as you want to call them fluff doesn't make them so.

Doing that only convinces me more that you truly aren't serious about playing.

No, im just calling you out on the irony that the only post that i said "SERIOUS VOTE" you deemed as serious, which is laughable and funny.

And why should I take explicit information denial as anything but a scum-motivated action?

Because it is assume you've read the thread, and should've reached the same conclusion wrt the ammount of fluff on it as everyone else if you actually did, but since you didn't it is assume that you're just scum skimming through the thread and want people to do the legwork for you.

[tn5421]

Considering that unlike you, I've already been playing seriously from the start, and when you came in you had no intention whatsoever to move the game away from such "RVS" as you call it. Hipocrisy.

Wrong, I didn't really intend to do so right now, I was going to wait until tonight to do so. Why, you ask? So I had time to calm down and not rage@thethread.

I'm also reading your post as "I don't want you to be able to respond properly so I can call you scum" because of the way you formatted it.
If you have a problem with this, stop making it hard to tell at a glance which each comment is pointing to.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura, we did this in Dummyville, it ended with you shooting Caligno (who was town)

Because he was mercenary hunting so i thought he was the SK? this is pretty unrelated.

[tn5421]

If I have to do this to reply to you, you're clearly looking for an excuse to scumread me ()

For non-image-viewers, that's me using my double monitor to figure out what the fuck sakura is replying to.

Replies incoming.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm also reading your post as "I don't want you to be able to respond properly so I can call you scum" because of the way you formatted it.
If you have a problem with this, stop making it hard to tell at a glance which each comment is pointing to.

It would have been easier if you didn't respond to my questions or points in it's own quote, which makes it harder to read overall if we keep replying to each other on the same quote.

[Bins]

TN, you're scumreading Sakura?

[notscience]

[Sakura Hana]

also lol @ finding it hard which point is a reply to when i replied to them in the exact same order that they appeared *shrug*

[notscience]

so, can someone tell me why Bert just voted me and ran off again?

[Sakura Hana]

No idea, yet Mr (I WANT THIS OUT OF RVS) didn't find that odd...

[SXTLHGaiden]

so, can someone tell me why Bert just voted me and ran off again?

Because The Collective is generous.