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Post Post #5275 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:56 am

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Birds, I honestly don't know how long I'm willing to wait but if they truly are a friendly neighbor, it shouldn't take much longer anyway.

Shos, it was a large game. Maybe more like 24 or 25. But the point is Dumbledore is a huge character who never does any kind of evil. That should show my point that you shouldn't take a name claim to be town. If you can't agree with that, there is no point in me even talking to you. Honestly, we kind of did already have the discussion and it went nowhere the first time.

Oversoul, ok.

Squirrel, semi confirmed? Can you elaborate on that?
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Post Post #5276 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:04 am

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In post 5275, Egg wrote:Squirrel, semi confirmed? Can you elaborate on that?

I would submit that the role sounds like a pro-scum one. Like, the powers sound anti-town.
Also, I agree with BBMolla's statement that 2 Jacks are unusual and unlikely - and Xoelf's JOAT is one that is trying to pick up credability by mirroring (on one power) an effect afflicting all of BBMolla's powers - which also seems unlikely to me.

Do you like Xoelf's claim?
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Post Post #5277 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:26 am

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I just played a game with two JOATs.

But yeah, I can definitely see her as scum. Was just trying to figure out how that was semi confirmed.
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Post Post #5278 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:13 am

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Two JoATs is fine. BB isn't really a joat anyway, since his abilities are all pretty unreliable outside of the commutify-ing. 1-shot supervig if he gets a shard is pretty amazing, though.

The issues with xof's claim lie elsewhere, and this isn't like the vampire game where it could just be a gross misunderstanding of the role PM. Foxfire as an undead detector is inexplicably goofy, and if there's flavor to support it in the ability text, she's made no attempt to explain that.

The hexmage thing is weird and doesn't line up with Ceph's interpretation of what a hexmage should do.

Also, it seems unlikely to me that she didn't follow BB rather than her claimed action.

If we don't lynch xof, I'd like her to do the "appear as someone else and make them post stuff" thing. Reason being that this is by far the most Shippo-like ability, it's provable, it's very hard to fit into the role of a Bo7 member flavor-wise, and it's implementation is unbelievable enough that it seems the most likely to be faked.
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Post Post #5279 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:15 am

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My basic issue was really the one bit of randomness stuck in, and the overall pro scum utility of the claimed effects.
2 JOATs is certainly possible, but I think there's a fair argument that statistically it's less likely that they're both town even if they are both JOATs.
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Post Post #5280 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:20 am

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In post 5274, Squirrel Girl wrote:
Unvote: Oversoul
Vote: Xofelf


I feel like people are forgetting the...y'know,
sorta semi-confirmed scum.

I am willing to see people debate between that and an Abomination lynch though, wheeee!


Could you lay this out for me as though I'm drinking early on a Friday?
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Post Post #5281 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:20 am

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In post 5274, Squirrel Girl wrote:
Unvote: Oversoul
Vote: Xofelf


I feel like people are forgetting the...y'know,
sorta semi-confirmed scum.

I am willing to see people debate between that and an Abomination lynch though, wheeee!


Could you lay this out for me as though I'm drinking early on a Friday?
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Post Post #5282 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:21 am

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Double posted. Weird.
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Post Post #5283 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:22 am

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In post 5276, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 5275, Egg wrote:Squirrel, semi confirmed? Can you elaborate on that?

I would submit that the role sounds like a pro-scum one. Like, the powers sound anti-town.
Also, I agree with BBMolla's statement that 2 Jacks are unusual and unlikely - and Xoelf's JOAT is one that is trying to pick up credability by mirroring (on one power) an effect afflicting all of BBMolla's powers - which also seems unlikely to me.

Do you like Xoelf's claim?

@Goat - there.
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Post Post #5284 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:26 am

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Where's serene?

Could one of those heads confirm shos's action last night?
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Post Post #5285 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:46 am

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Kagami, I'd rather xofelf be able to provide us with useful information before she does eventually die. I don't at all doubt she has the ability to force someone to say stuff. I can't see her coming up with it if she doesn't. Why not use the most useful abilities while she's still alive?
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Post Post #5286 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:48 am

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Prodding PA and BC.
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Post Post #5287 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:07 am

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I was 2 hours too late. :(

How long have we been talking about xof?
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Post Post #5288 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:24 am

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Not long.

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Post Post #5289 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:35 am

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Birds of Prey and Beastcharizard, what do you think of Shroom, Abom, xofelf, and shos?
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Post Post #5290 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:35 am

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In post 5283, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 5276, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 5275, Egg wrote:Squirrel, semi confirmed? Can you elaborate on that?

I would submit that the role sounds like a pro-scum one. Like, the powers sound anti-town.
Also, I agree with BBMolla's statement that 2 Jacks are unusual and unlikely - and Xoelf's JOAT is one that is trying to pick up credability by mirroring (on one power) an effect afflicting all of BBMolla's powers - which also seems unlikely to me.

Do you like Xoelf's claim?

@Goat - there.


That's far from semi-confirmed scum. But thank you for elaborating.
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Post Post #5291 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:36 am

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So the leading wagon is at L-8...

Preview edit: yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking on that.
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Post Post #5292 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:48 am

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SG: What's your feeling on Abomination?
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Post Post #5293 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:56 am

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Spoiler: xof claim wall
In post 4795, xofelf wrote:I don't HAVE anything that is blocking/manipulative. I have things that can mess around with people's votes in the next day. Sorry my hexmage doesn't hex as you want it to?
I'm not scum. And even if I was, let me tell you a thing about how I play scum. IF I ever fake a claim, I only claim VT. I am aware I'm not a good enough player to pretend to take actions that I never actually did. I'm a really shitty liar so I don't bother. I also haven't drawn scum in a game in many many years. And this is not how I play scum.
The ability about finding Undead just tells me if someone is Undead, it doesn't say Undead is scum. I didn't use it on Molla because even though I didn't feel his claim of our roles to cancel each other out was legit, I don't believe he's scum for it.
I believe his claim as well. The other nonvote/next day action i have is making a Doppleganger which has a 50% chance of canceling actions on me. So percentages being a thing reads as legit to me.
I have a transformation into another player for a night and make them say something the next day, and then two ventriloquisms which either entirely cancels someone's voting ability and gives the power to me if i want it, OR prevents the first vote on someone's wagon. Last thing I have is a Firebomb which puts a vote on a player and stays there the entire next day.
It's far too early for those abilities to be used well imo, so I wasn't going to touch them. We've only killed one undead so I wanted to see if another person flips as undead and whether they are scum or not. If they were I was going to use my Undead detector.
So if you feel my way of playing this role is all wrong, well I'm sorry. But I'm Shippo, I am a Town Demon, and I am a Hexmage. I don't know what else to tell you.


I have xof as having the following abilities

1. Undead cop (Foxfire)
2. Self-commute
3. Vote Thief
4. First-vote preventer?
5. Permavote (Firebomb)
6. coinflip ascetic?
7. One random active ability cop
8. Transform into someone for the night and make them say something the next day on penalty of modkill.
9. Unclaimed (lulz).

The only good ability is undead cop, and I'm not going to direct that because roleblocking is a thing. Everything else is garbage or anti-town until endgame. I really want to see #8 happen if we don't lynch her. It's provable, or has to be used on a buddy (which is also pretty great), it's claimed implementation is highly suspect, and I really doubt ceph shoehorned that into a Bo7 character's ability.

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Post Post #5294 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:02 am

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No idea how the exactly got there.
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Post Post #5295 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:14 am

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In post 5294, Kagami wrote:No idea how the exactly got there.


Perhaps it's another one of her abilities.

*suspicious look*
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Post Post #5296 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:21 am

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Actually, I'm not even going to entertain the idea of not lynching xof. No sane individual would describe that ability list with

In post 2189, xofelf wrote:
There's a huge list of nightactions I can take, some of which are investigative, others protective, and some are downright silly. But I'm town.
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Post Post #5297 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:26 am

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I want to see ability number one used first.
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Post Post #5298 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:41 am

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Extremely Low Activity for an undetermined length of time, but probably not too long.

Someone may be /in-ing to the kagami mafia family very soon
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Post Post #5299 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:03 am

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