Mini 451 - Totally Awesome Mafia, Game Over

[A Papaya]

Hi people. Let's kick this day off.

Random Vote: Stewie

[A Papaya]

You don't like Papayas?

Funny, neither do I. Don't know why I chose this name.

[A Papaya]

Is it a (singular) Papaya or a(rnold) Papaya?

Guess

@Stewie: Actually, on another website, my name was A Banana, and when I became a visible member, as a joke the admin changed it to A Papaya. It's never changed back.

[A Papaya]

We need a majority of votes, Off the Mark, meaning that it's 7 to lynch.

[A Papaya]

No one should really be worrying until they get 5 votes, IMO.

[A Papaya]

Scratch that: 5 votes based on sound reasoning.

[A Papaya]

'Cause he's scum. DUH

[A Papaya]

@NabakovNabakov

Are you a stalker or something? You know way too much about me.

Well, if you've read the only other game I've played here, you are not going to believe a word I say, are you? (I was scum in that game) Well, don't worry, I have no reason to lie this time around.

That last line does seem a bit scummy...but nothing to be actually incriminating, because I don't see how someone (scum especially) could be so careless as to use that phrase. Bah. I think it's more a noob tell than a scum tell.

[A Papaya]

Yeah, but the wording is awfully...meh. It might be the truth, and it probably is, but if it wasn't a noobtell I don't know why'd you go and say it. It's almost as bad as saying, "You can trust me, I'm not mafia."

[A Papaya]

Unvote

I'm waiting for a more solid reason to vote for anyone.

[A Papaya]

I don't see why it matters who is voting, so yeah, it does seem a bit scummy. We're only a day in, we don't need to lynch right now.

[A Papaya]

How am I lurking Lowell, theres nothing to discuss except newbs throwing around conversation.

Isn't your record like 0/1?

[A Papaya]

Unvote: a papaya; vote: Nekka-Lucifer

Mainly because:

1. I don't understand why he took his vote off "Off the Mark."
2. I don't understand why he's voting me now ("longest post ever done"? "he doesn't need to work anything out"?)
3. He hasn't explained why he cares so much about people who are not voting. His explanation was "Just asking." We know that, but

why

are you asking?
4. Already voted three different people.
5. I don't think there's any better reasons to vote for anyone else right now, and I think it's time for the game to start moving somewhere.

is that really conclusive evidence? I don't just want to lynch someone based off the argument "He's the best we've got".

[A Papaya]

I havent updated that in a while. If i wanted to it would be something like 3/5

Sorry

[A Papaya]

We could wait. Though a pressure wagon can be a good way to grab information.

[A Papaya]

After reading things over a few more times, I am going to put my vote back where it was.

vote: Nekka-Lucifer

Three reasons:

1. "No offense if yer a townie" - trying too hard to fit in - no one else felt "bad" about their random votes.

2. Pushing everyone to vote - what's the hurry? Short days favor the mafia.

3. This reason is going to sound odd, coming from me, but he accepted me as townie a little too quickly, don't you think? I was surprised when I first read his post that he had suddenly dropped all suspicion of me. I know he said that he accepted that I was probing for info, but the way things played out, it seems like he must have had inside information. I don't think I said anything worthy of townie confirmation.

Meh. Using that reasoning, you seem more like scum then him. However' I agree with the rest of the post.

FoS: Nekka-Lucifer

, but I want to give him a chance to defend himself before I confirm a vote.

[A Papaya]

A Papaya, if Off the Mark sounds more suspicious than Nekka-Lucifer, why did you put a FoS on NL and not Off the Mark?

I said using that reasoning, meaning the third point that off the mark gave. The rest of the reasoning seemed sound.

Can you be more specific? His post was composed of three reasons. Which part is reasoning which makes him seem more like scum than nekka, and what's the "rest of the post" which you agree with?

I agree with Off the Marks points 1 and 2, also because he was voting people because they lurked, all of that jazz. Anyways, this is just an FoS, I still haven't confirmed the vote.

[A Papaya]

The reason I like short days is so it's a shorter game, this' my first game, because my friends game was newb and it was a whole month....

I'm quite worryed now, because I have 5 votes and so close to hammer....
I think A Papaya is scum for doing that 5th vote...

Unvote

Vote: A Papaya

It's not great logic but it is my first game.... give me some slack

I can garuntee if I get lynched, it's a bad desicion.... If I was scum, then why would other scums vote me
You have just misinturpretated.... what I've said (No offence if you're a townie)..... I still don't even know what roles are possible in this game
If you're a cop, then please just check me out..... If you feel I'm not scum, don't waste it and look at A Papaya... I feel his 'suspicions' are abit vague (mine are as well but I don't really know)

I don't see how my "suspicions" are less vague than anyone else's suspicions. Again, with the "no offense if you're a townie" logic...meh. I don't understand how I'm suspicious.

Also, if you'd read the entire thread, you'd realize that i never voted for you. I just FoSed you, so calm down.

[A Papaya]

Alright. No problem, since you've already OMGUS'd me in another thread for FoSing you here. Weird, huh?

[A Papaya]

I NEVER EVEN VOTED FOR HIM!

[A Papaya]

I NEVER EVEN VOTED FOR HIM!

Right, you FOS'd him. But at the time of his post that I quoted, he thought you were voting for him.

Which leads me to think he's a little jumpy. Again, it could just be a noob tell.

[A Papaya]

Also, I really hate his vote hopping. It's like he hopes that he'll vote for someone who responds by acting scummy and then he'll be saved.

So for now, since he is acting the scummiest, re

Vote: N-L

[A Papaya]

^^ Agreed. Off the Mark seems right...on the mark.

Unvote, Vote: Hjallti

Nekka does seem increasingly scummy, however.

[A Papaya]

Firstly,

Unvote, Vote: N-L

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NL has acted scummy far more than Hjallti, IMO. While I do think that Hjallti is most likely scum, NL, IMO, is most certainly scum, so it's a safer bet to lynch him now. NL changes his vote too much and only stopped doing it when people said it looked suspicious...also, he keeps trying to do whatever he can to change the subject by attacking someone else instead of giving a valid argument to prove that he isn't scum. Also, you keep saying that you're pro town without baking it up, as if you repeat it enough times, it will become true.

[A Papaya]

@Hjallti:

Here's my reasons:

N-L has done all of the following in this game:
1) Vote hopped, seemingly trying to land on someone who would get defensive and say something scummy.
2) Appealed to emotion.
3) I'm tired and that's what I remember off the bat, but that only makes him scum in my book.

[A Papaya]

And now Nekka keeps diverting attention from himself...ok, that's a little weak.

WHO CARES IF IT'S ALLOWED?

[A Papaya]

You wanna know why I unvoted N-L at first? It's cause I did think he was town for a bit...but he convinced me he was scum again.

[A Papaya]

Ok, I think I have officially given up...

You never really tried...

Haha, right.

And I don't think I've ever seen someone give up and NOT get lynched.

[A Papaya]

Haha, right.

And I don't think I've ever seen someone give up and NOT get lynched.

And how many times have they been scum? (Just curious)

About 1/5 times...which isn't that bad of a ratio.

I've only played mafia a few times, but I've read alot.

[A Papaya]

Ahh Crap, 3 townies dead and no Mafia. This is, IMO, a good time to do something about OTM, who initially made a strong point for lynching NL. Can someone do an analysis of his posts? I would, but I'm pressed for time.

[A Papaya]

2 people died tonight, so it isn't a bad guess.

Anyhow, I may have been a little to crusader, but what I said makes sense (I think.) Now, I guess I can understand why OTM suspected NL. I do think that Hjallti is innocent, as he's new and I think lynching him will be almost as bad as lynching NL was.

CTD, you voted me with no explanation at all.

[A Papaya]

IGMEO is very low on the suspicion-meter. IGMEO everybody, really...

My (slight) suspicion of Papaya stems from his leaping onto the Hjallti & Nekka bandwagons without a lot of reasons stated. His posts have always had a pro-town vibe to them, though, so I'm not sure what to think. If he is scum, he is being pretty smooth about it. His first post of Day 2 does look pretty bad, though, seems like he wants to start a bandwagon on me right away without discussing everyone else.

I really don't like N9V's posts at the end of Day 1 though. Very fishy things going on there... despite his protests, it still seems to me he was planting seeds for the Day 2 lynch.

I jumped from Hjallti and Nekka so quickly because I can only imagine them as a mafia pair. When Nekka was found innocent, it made Hjallti look innocent too.

OtM, I'm suspicious of you because you're the one who first got the nekka wagon going. Now granted, he did look pretty suspicious to all of us, and I am getting town vibes from you. You do seem fairly dedicated to finding the scum.

CTD, you're random vote on me was a little annoying, and you still haven't backed it up. Please do.

IMGEOY: OtD and CTD