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[Birds of Prey]

On that last comment I agree. They may even be useful tomorrow.

[Birds of Prey]

Goat, name your biggest scumreads.

[The Goat]

Majiffy, I am seeing something different with Goat. They are unlikely to be lynched today though. I need to discuss what I saw with PV what I saw. Just in case I die, a crumb for you/Mala. Read Goat as if I subbed in from Day 5 or later. Do my first usual step.

You should see what I see.

...

...well, now *I'm* curious to see what it is I did. I eager await your analysis.

I think this is my frustration with this site sometimes...the overanalysis of minutia. I understand scumhunting, and I understand the need to sift through information.

But at times, a person coming in and saying something to the extent of "Hey...sorry I haven't contributed...I have no idea what the hell is going on...what the hell does this mean?"

really just is a person coming in who hasn't contributed much, and is trying to figure out what the hell is going on.

Many of you seem like very intelligent people, but at times I think you miss the forest for the trees.

[The Goat]

Goat, name your biggest scumreads.

Mist.
xofelf.

[Birds of Prey]

Goat, why are you assuming minuate when I haven't commented on what I saw?

Where is your push on scumreads?

[The Goat]

Goat, why are you assuming minuate when I haven't commented on what I saw?

Where is your push on scumreads?

Re: First sentence, I wasn't referring to you for the most part.

Re: Second sentence. I'm voting for Mist. I just replied to xofelf's "if you don't like it, talk to the mod" post. What were you looking for?

[Birds of Prey]

Goat, why are you assuming minuate when I haven't commented on what I saw?

Where is your push on scumreads?

Re: First sentence, I wasn't referring to you for the most part.

Re: Second sentence. I'm voting for Mist. I just replied to xofelf's "if you don't like it, talk to the mod" post. What were you looking for?

Would like to see a litle more scumhunting and reasoning from you. Saying Mist and Xefl are scummy is all good, except yuor not telling us why.

In addition, you have 2 scumreads out oa a LOT of players. Do you have more? Please share.

~P

[Birds of Prey]

Random thoughts at post 674 (end of p. 27):

I'm townreading Majiffy thus far. I remember him being more arrogant as scum. Yes, really.
Nero is playing differently than the games I remember with him. Will have to go back and check how long ago that was, and what his alignment was.
Icerint/AP is pinging the ever-loving holy crap out of my Goatdar.
Y&B is a fluffier poster than I am. And that's saying something.

I really can't say anything that wouldn't leave scorch marks on the server.

Do something useful.

Fair enough. I just iso-ed myself, and that's deserved.

Here's what I've got stored in my head from following somewhat lackadaisically, without referencing exact posts.

I'm getting a strong town-read on Majiffy, but he's tunneling like a mofo. His stubbornness actually made me LESS likely to vote shos until the last page or so.
I'm also getting strong town reads on SG, Nero and Mastin; their interactions read like "I'm smarter than you" town on town action.

TSO/replacement did something mid-day that pinged me.
Sven is officially freaking me out now. He's playing differently in other games, even "D1 with no data" play is different.

Also, I see your Mylanta based townreads. But, with 160 pages of juicy goodness, that should be backed up or contested by actual content. So, refine these townreads, and what others do you have?

~P

[Birds of Prey]

vote: Mist

unvote

until Icerink flips.

Also, what was the point? How would your vote on Mist be affected by Ice flip?

~P

[Moogle Dance Troupe]

Somewhat off the current topic, would wake have replaced out solely because he was scum? I've never been in a game he replaced out of.

[Birds of Prey]

Wake replaced out of all his MS games at once.

[Birds of Prey]

Yet he would not do that.

[Moogle Dance Troupe]

No he didn't, I was just going through his posts around the july 7-8 area. The only notable activity other than leaving this game was making the ADHD thread in MD.

[Birds of Prey]

I am in a few games where Wake subbed out. Wake also does not sub out of games as only one alignment.

[The Goat]

vote: Mist

unvote

until Icerink flips.

Also, what was the point? How would your vote on Mist be affected by Ice flip?

~P

I think that many things are based on flips. If AIR flipped scum, everything changes as far as early reads go.

[The Goat]

Random thoughts at post 674 (end of p. 27):

I'm townreading Majiffy thus far. I remember him being more arrogant as scum. Yes, really.
Nero is playing differently than the games I remember with him. Will have to go back and check how long ago that was, and what his alignment was.
Icerint/AP is pinging the ever-loving holy crap out of my Goatdar.
Y&B is a fluffier poster than I am. And that's saying something.

I really can't say anything that wouldn't leave scorch marks on the server.

Do something useful.

Fair enough. I just iso-ed myself, and that's deserved.

Here's what I've got stored in my head from following somewhat lackadaisically, without referencing exact posts.

I'm getting a strong town-read on Majiffy, but he's tunneling like a mofo. His stubbornness actually made me LESS likely to vote shos until the last page or so.
I'm also getting strong town reads on SG, Nero and Mastin; their interactions read like "I'm smarter than you" town on town action.

TSO/replacement did something mid-day that pinged me.
Sven is officially freaking me out now. He's playing differently in other games, even "D1 with no data" play is different.

Also, I see your Mylanta based townreads. But, with 160 pages of juicy goodness, that should be backed up or contested by actual content. So, refine these townreads, and what others do you have?

~P

Random thoughts at post 674 (end of p. 27):

I'm townreading Majiffy thus far. I remember him being more arrogant as scum. Yes, really.
Nero is playing differently than the games I remember with him. Will have to go back and check how long ago that was, and what his alignment was.
Icerint/AP is pinging the ever-loving holy crap out of my Goatdar.
Y&B is a fluffier poster than I am. And that's saying something.

I really can't say anything that wouldn't leave scorch marks on the server.

Do something useful.

Fair enough. I just iso-ed myself, and that's deserved.

Here's what I've got stored in my head from following somewhat lackadaisically, without referencing exact posts.

I'm getting a strong town-read on Majiffy, but he's tunneling like a mofo. His stubbornness actually made me LESS likely to vote shos until the last page or so.
I'm also getting strong town reads on SG, Nero and Mastin; their interactions read like "I'm smarter than you" town on town action.

TSO/replacement did something mid-day that pinged me.
Sven is officially freaking me out now. He's playing differently in other games, even "D1 with no data" play is different.

Also, I see your Mylanta based townreads. But, with 160 pages of juicy goodness, that should be backed up or contested by actual content. So, refine these townreads, and what others do you have?

~P

Yes...I'm working on doing that. That involves asking questions. Those questions are what led to this entire cf of a day in the first place.

Hence my frustration. Here's what's occurred today, from my POV.

"Hey...what's going on? I'm a little behind. What's this about over here?"
"WHAT DID YOU ASK THAT QUESTION FOR, SCUM?"
"You know what? Never mind."
"WHY AREN'T YOU GIVING MORE DETAILED READS?"
"How about you all go #### yourselves?"

You're just going to have to deal for a little bit.

Regarding the "asking more questions" bit, what's the deal with the big-ass wagon on you?

[The Goat]

Whoops. Not quite sure how I double-quoted.

[Birds of Prey]

vote: Mist

unvote

until Icerink flips.

Also, what was the point? How would your vote on Mist be affected by Ice flip?

~P

I think that many things are based on flips. If AIR flipped scum, everything changes as far as early reads go.

OK, then you can save me from extra clicking by showing my where your early scumread of Mist was and where it came from. From that, I'm sure I'll be able to understand how it would be affected by an Ice scumflip.

~P

[The Goat]

vote: Mist

unvote

until Icerink flips.

Also, what was the point? How would your vote on Mist be affected by Ice flip?

~P

I think that many things are based on flips. If AIR flipped scum, everything changes as far as early reads go.

OK, then you can save me from extra clicking by showing my where your early scumread of Mist was and where it came from. From that, I'm sure I'll be able to understand how it would be affected by an Ice scumflip.

~P

I already stated that Mist was a gut read. It's something that I got from a reread a week or two ago. Someone else had listed him as being scummy, so I checked him out, and he seemed town.

Regarding unvoting until after the flip, like I said...if AIR flipped scum, everything needed a reread.

[Birds of Prey]

Random thoughts at post 674 (end of p. 27):

I'm townreading Majiffy thus far. I remember him being more arrogant as scum. Yes, really.
Nero is playing differently than the games I remember with him. Will have to go back and check how long ago that was, and what his alignment was.
Icerint/AP is pinging the ever-loving holy crap out of my Goatdar.
Y&B is a fluffier poster than I am. And that's saying something.

I really can't say anything that wouldn't leave scorch marks on the server.

Do something useful.

Fair enough. I just iso-ed myself, and that's deserved.

Here's what I've got stored in my head from following somewhat lackadaisically, without referencing exact posts.

I'm getting a strong town-read on Majiffy, but he's tunneling like a mofo. His stubbornness actually made me LESS likely to vote shos until the last page or so.
I'm also getting strong town reads on SG, Nero and Mastin; their interactions read like "I'm smarter than you" town on town action.

TSO/replacement did something mid-day that pinged me.
Sven is officially freaking me out now. He's playing differently in other games, even "D1 with no data" play is different.

Also, I see your Mylanta based townreads. But, with 160 pages of juicy goodness, that should be backed up or contested by actual content. So, refine these townreads, and what others do you have?

~P

Yes...I'm working on doing that. That involves asking questions. Those questions are what led to this entire cf of a day in the first place.

Hence my frustration. Here's what's occurred today, from my POV.

"Hey...what's going on? I'm a little behind. What's this about over here?"
"WHAT DID YOU ASK THAT QUESTION FOR, SCUM?"
"You know what? Never mind."
"WHY AREN'T YOU GIVING MORE DETAILED READS?"
"How about you all go #### yourselves?"

You're just going to have to deal for a little bit.

Goat: "Hey...what's going on? I'm a little behind. What's this about over here?"
Birds: "Hey, wow, a The Goat sighting. Let's see if he's scum or town through as direct interaction as we can get on a forum-based game."
Birds-T: "I think he's scum. His votes suck and he hasn't been scumhunting."
Birds-P: "His iso does suck, let's see what he says about it, and his other reads."
Goat: "You know what? Never mind."
Birds: "Mist looks like mislynch bait, and may or may not be town. Xelf claimed town superdude. 28 player game. Who are your other reads?"
Goat: ""How about you all go #### yourselves?"

Why the bad attitude about being asked questions?

Regarding the "asking more questions" bit, what's the deal with the big-ass wagon on you?

Dunno. Probably from asking too many questions.

[The Goat]

vote: Mist

unvote

until Icerink flips.

Also, what was the point? How would your vote on Mist be affected by Ice flip?

~P

I think that many things are based on flips. If AIR flipped scum, everything changes as far as early reads go.

OK, then you can save me from extra clicking by showing my where your early scumread of Mist was and where it came from. From that, I'm sure I'll be able to understand how it would be affected by an Ice scumflip.

~P

I already stated that Mist was a gut read. It's something that I got from a reread a week or two ago. Someone else had listed him as being scummy, so I checked him out, and he seemed

not-so-town.

Regarding unvoting until after the flip, like I said...if AIR flipped scum, everything needed a reread.

EBWOP.

[Birds of Prey]

vote: Mist

unvote

until Icerink flips.

Also, what was the point? How would your vote on Mist be affected by Ice flip?

~P

I think that many things are based on flips. If AIR flipped scum, everything changes as far as early reads go.

OK, then you can save me from extra clicking by showing my where your early scumread of Mist was and where it came from. From that, I'm sure I'll be able to understand how it would be affected by an Ice scumflip.

~P

I already stated that Mist was a gut read. It's something that I got from a reread a week or two ago. Someone else had listed him as being scummy, so I checked him out, and he seemed not-so-town.

Regarding unvoting until after the flip, like I said...if AIR flipped scum, everything needed a reread.

But if Mist was a gut scumread, how does a Ice scumflip or an Ice townflip affect that Mist gutread?

~P

[The Goat]

Random thoughts at post 674 (end of p. 27):

I'm townreading Majiffy thus far. I remember him being more arrogant as scum. Yes, really.
Nero is playing differently than the games I remember with him. Will have to go back and check how long ago that was, and what his alignment was.
Icerint/AP is pinging the ever-loving holy crap out of my Goatdar.
Y&B is a fluffier poster than I am. And that's saying something.

I really can't say anything that wouldn't leave scorch marks on the server.

Do something useful.

Fair enough. I just iso-ed myself, and that's deserved.

Here's what I've got stored in my head from following somewhat lackadaisically, without referencing exact posts.

I'm getting a strong town-read on Majiffy, but he's tunneling like a mofo. His stubbornness actually made me LESS likely to vote shos until the last page or so.
I'm also getting strong town reads on SG, Nero and Mastin; their interactions read like "I'm smarter than you" town on town action.

TSO/replacement did something mid-day that pinged me.
Sven is officially freaking me out now. He's playing differently in other games, even "D1 with no data" play is different.

Also, I see your Mylanta based townreads. But, with 160 pages of juicy goodness, that should be backed up or contested by actual content. So, refine these townreads, and what others do you have?

~P

Yes...I'm working on doing that. That involves asking questions. Those questions are what led to this entire cf of a day in the first place.

Hence my frustration. Here's what's occurred today, from my POV.

"Hey...what's going on? I'm a little behind. What's this about over here?"
"WHAT DID YOU ASK THAT QUESTION FOR, SCUM?"
"You know what? Never mind."
"WHY AREN'T YOU GIVING MORE DETAILED READS?"
"How about you all go #### yourselves?"

You're just going to have to deal for a little bit.

Goat: "Hey...what's going on? I'm a little behind. What's this about over here?"
Birds: "Hey, wow, a The Goat sighting. Let's see if he's scum or town through as direct interaction as we can get on a forum-based game."
Birds-T: "I think he's scum. His votes suck and he hasn't been scumhunting."
Birds-P: "His iso does suck, let's see what he says about it, and his other reads."
Goat: "You know what? Never mind."
Birds: "Mist looks like mislynch bait, and may or may not be town. Xelf claimed town superdude. 28 player game. Who are your other reads?"
Goat: ""How about you all go #### yourselves?"

Why the bad attitude about being asked questions?

It's not the questions. It's the overanalysis of minutia. It drives me bonkers.

[The Goat]

vote: Mist

unvote

until Icerink flips.

Also, what was the point? How would your vote on Mist be affected by Ice flip?

~P

I think that many things are based on flips. If AIR flipped scum, everything changes as far as early reads go.

OK, then you can save me from extra clicking by showing my where your early scumread of Mist was and where it came from. From that, I'm sure I'll be able to understand how it would be affected by an Ice scumflip.

~P

I already stated that Mist was a gut read. It's something that I got from a reread a week or two ago. Someone else had listed him as being scummy, so I checked him out, and he seemed not-so-town.

Regarding unvoting until after the flip, like I said...if AIR flipped scum, everything needed a reread.

But if Mist was a gut scumread, how does a Ice scumflip or an Ice townflip affect that Mist gutread?

~P

Because knowing that AIR was scum would influence

everything

pending a re-read. Interactions. Voting patterns. Everything.

[Birds of Prey]

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Also, what was the point? How would your vote on Mist be affected by Ice flip?

~P

I think that many things are based on flips. If AIR flipped scum, everything changes as far as early reads go.

OK, then you can save me from extra clicking by showing my where your early scumread of Mist was and where it came from. From that, I'm sure I'll be able to understand how it would be affected by an Ice scumflip.

~P

I already stated that Mist was a gut read. It's something that I got from a reread a week or two ago. Someone else had listed him as being scummy, so I checked him out, and he seemed not-so-town.

Regarding unvoting until after the flip, like I said...if AIR flipped scum, everything needed a reread.

But if Mist was a gut scumread, how does a Ice scumflip or an Ice townflip affect that Mist gutread?

~P

Because knowing that AIR was scum would influence

everything

pending a re-read. Interactions. Voting patterns. Everything.

I think "gut" by definition doesn't really includes interactions, voting patterns. And you specified unvoting mist until seeing Ice flip, indicating some sort of direct correlation.

In addition, why would Ice flip scum? He was the NK, and the only one, and by *most* accounts would be expected to be town. It really would be a matter of what town role he was.

With that said, I'm now even more confused by your mist unvote and logic you gave for it.

~P