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Post Post #3850 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:34 am

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In post 3601, notscience wrote:Kohaku, town
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Post Post #3851 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:35 am

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I read my role pm

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Post Post #3852 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:39 am

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Post Post #3853 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:39 am

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"He is later revived by Naraku as a human puppet "
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Post Post #3854 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:40 am

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@Majiffy Not all Nakaru's puppets are demons. They just typically are.

Naraku then used the guilt-ridden Kohaku as a pawn and puppet for his dirty work. Though Kohaku was a gentle boy, he was easily manipulated by Naraku to commit terrible acts because of his weak heart. He desired to forget the memories of killing his father and companions and allowed Naraku to erase them so his mind would be more at ease.


Source: http://inuyasha.wikia.com/wiki/Kohaku


@Bulba, Shos and Lemni were counterwagons to each other. To believe shos is scum, suggests multiball or shos is more important to the scumteam than Lemniscate.
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Post Post #3855 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:41 am

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Come on majiffy

you've got more than that

give me everything you've got

I haven't even read most of today and I'll still win
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Post Post #3856 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:42 am

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In post 3844, BulbaFenix wrote:Venmar and Neil need to stop voting their vanity wagons and vote Shroomish.

-Bulba


Wouldn't ceasing to vote a vanity wagon be scummy? No wait... that only applies to wagons you don't want. I forgot.
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Post Post #3857 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:44 am

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Here I'll even get you started

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Post Post #3858 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:48 am

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In post 3853, notscience wrote:"He is later revived by Naraku as a human puppet "

In post 3854, Birds of Prey wrote:@Majiffy Not all Nakaru's puppets are demons. They just typically are.

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Post Post #3859 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:56 am

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In post 3858, Majiffy wrote:
In post 3853, notscience wrote:"He is later revived by Naraku as a human puppet "

In post 3854, Birds of Prey wrote:@Majiffy Not all Nakaru's puppets are demons. They just typically are.

:cry:

VOTE: BoP


:) NS is likely town. I'm going to have to talk to PV about you. It's not like you to get upset with two players largely in sync. This post convinces me you have no interest in either the Neil or the Shroomish wagon at all, which will be valuable late game because the VCs tend to reveal a lot about alignment by Day 4 or 5 of a large theme.

So bring on the mud. I'd love to be alive by then.
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Post Post #3860 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:02 am

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In post 3859, Birds of Prey wrote:
In post 3858, Majiffy wrote:
In post 3853, notscience wrote:"He is later revived by Naraku as a human puppet "

In post 3854, Birds of Prey wrote:@Majiffy Not all Nakaru's puppets are demons. They just typically are.

:cry:

VOTE: BoP


:) NS is likely town. I'm going to have to talk to PV about you. It's not like you to get upset with two players largely in sync. This post convinces me you have no interest in either the Neil or the Shroomish wagon at all, which will be valuable late game because the VCs tend to reveal a lot about alignment by Day 4 or 5 of a large theme.

So bring on the mud. I'd love to be alive by then.

You're right, I
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have absolutely no interest in either of those wagons.

Neil is a dumb wagon and Shroomish is an easy wagon. Both sprung up as alternatives to
your
wagon!

Wonder what that means.
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Post Post #3861 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:17 am

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In post 3854, Birds of Prey wrote:
@Bulba, Shos and Lemni were counterwagons to each other. To believe shos is scum, suggests multiball or shos is more important to the scumteam than Lemniscate.


This is a 28 player game. I want to hear your reasons for not thinking that this is multiball.

In post 3856, Birds of Prey wrote:
In post 3844, BulbaFenix wrote:Venmar and Neil need to stop voting their vanity wagons and vote Shroomish.

-Bulba


Wouldn't ceasing to vote a vanity wagon be scummy? No wait... that only applies to wagons you don't want. I forgot.


That discredit.

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Post Post #3862 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:19 am

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This was a prod-dodge. Still thinking Xof is scum. Tra-la-la. la la, la la.
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Post Post #3863 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:46 am

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In post 3803, BBmolla wrote:
In post 3795, xofelf wrote:Why are you so adamant I should die? I'm sorry but unless you're trying to kill off the town, you really should be focusing your "Lynch this dead" attentions on someone else.

Cause you've claimed something I find super implausible to exist with my role.

Like if we're both town, then the town is ridic


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Post Post #3864 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:34 am

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If town is a bunch of JOATs then okay

But I really don't think so.
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Post Post #3865 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:48 am

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In post 3860, Majiffy wrote:
In post 3859, Birds of Prey wrote:
In post 3858, Majiffy wrote:
In post 3853, notscience wrote:"He is later revived by Naraku as a human puppet "

In post 3854, Birds of Prey wrote:@Majiffy Not all Nakaru's puppets are demons. They just typically are.

:cry:

VOTE: BoP


:) NS is likely town. I'm going to have to talk to PV about you. It's not like you to get upset with two players largely in sync. This post convinces me you have no interest in either the Neil or the Shroomish wagon at all, which will be valuable late game because the VCs tend to reveal a lot about alignment by Day 4 or 5 of a large theme.

So bring on the mud. I'd love to be alive by then.

You're right, I
do
have absolutely no interest in either of those wagons.

Neil is a dumb wagon and Shroomish is an easy wagon. Both sprung up as alternatives to
your
wagon!

Wonder what that means.


No. Neil, who is scum, sprung up as an alternate to my wagon.
Shroomish sprung up as an alternate to both of our wagons.
I tend to be easier to mislynch as town, so scum would want to keep me around, doubly so b/c of being an ascetic, triply so because my wagon countering scum looks bad for everyone on my wagon.
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Post Post #3866 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:50 am

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In post 3861, BulbaFenix wrote:
In post 3854, Birds of Prey wrote:
@Bulba, Shos and Lemni were counterwagons to each other. To believe shos is scum, suggests multiball or shos is more important to the scumteam than Lemniscate.


This is a 28 player game. I want to hear your reasons for not thinking that this is multiball.

In post 3856, Birds of Prey wrote:
In post 3844, BulbaFenix wrote:Venmar and Neil need to stop voting their vanity wagons and vote Shroomish.

-Bulba


Wouldn't ceasing to vote a vanity wagon be scummy? No wait... that only applies to wagons you don't want. I forgot.


That discredit.

-Bulba



There's only one kill, so multiball is not confirmed. It is likely multiball, but I'm not proceeding solely under that assumption until confirmed. PV also thinks multiball.

Highlighting a logical disconnect is an appropriate attack on someone. The fact all you can say is "discredit" is pretty decent showing of the hypocrisy. You want someone else to move off a vanity wagon, but criticize us for doing the same damn thing and being honest about it.

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Post Post #3867 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:08 am

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In post 3865, Birds of Prey wrote:
In post 3860, Majiffy wrote:
In post 3859, Birds of Prey wrote:
In post 3858, Majiffy wrote:
In post 3853, notscience wrote:"He is later revived by Naraku as a human puppet "

In post 3854, Birds of Prey wrote:@Majiffy Not all Nakaru's puppets are demons. They just typically are.

:cry:

VOTE: BoP


:) NS is likely town. I'm going to have to talk to PV about you. It's not like you to get upset with two players largely in sync. This post convinces me you have no interest in either the Neil or the Shroomish wagon at all, which will be valuable late game because the VCs tend to reveal a lot about alignment by Day 4 or 5 of a large theme.

So bring on the mud. I'd love to be alive by then.

You're right, I
do
have absolutely no interest in either of those wagons.

Neil is a dumb wagon and Shroomish is an easy wagon. Both sprung up as alternatives to
your
wagon!

Wonder what that means.


No. Neil, who is scum, sprung up as an alternate to my wagon.
Shroomish sprung up as an alternate to both of our wagons.
I tend to be easier to mislynch as town, so scum would want to keep me around, doubly so b/c of being an ascetic, triply so because my wagon countering scum looks bad for everyone on my wagon.


So let me get this straight... Neil popped up as a counterwagon to you, and then Shroomish popped up as an additional counterwagon because scum want to keep you alive, but you're not scum?

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In post 3866, Birds of Prey wrote:
There's only one kill, so multiball is not confirmed. It is likely multiball, but I'm not proceeding solely under that assumption until confirmed. PV also thinks multiball.


So if it's likely multiball, why then are you making such a big deal over my assumption that it's multiball? If it's multiball, then everything you just said regarding Shos/Lemni is worthless.

In post 3866, Birds of Prey wrote:
Highlighting a logical disconnect is an appropriate attack on someone. The fact all you can say is "discredit" is pretty decent showing of the hypocrisy. You want someone else to move off a vanity wagon, but criticize us for doing the same damn thing and being honest about it.


Okay, point me to where I said ceasing to vote a vanity wagon was scummy, because I bet you can't find it, or you're going to take something out of context to make the point. I'll wait.

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Post Post #3868 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:27 pm

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I am clearly missing something with the whole PV/BOP thing.
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Post Post #3869 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:53 pm

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BulbaFenix, yes. Why would scum want to lynch a town ascetic when they can simply kill us whenever they want? That's probably why the Shroomish wagon started in the first place.

I make a big deal about any assumption not founded in evidence. You should know this by now. Also, even in multiball looking at wagons and counterwagons are not worthless.

The post calling my move to Neil as scummy is it.

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Post Post #3870 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:05 pm

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In post 3869, Birds of Prey wrote:BulbaFenix, yes. Why would scum want to lynch a town ascetic when they can simply kill us whenever they want? That's probably why the Shroomish wagon started in the first place.


Why would scum want to NK someone they could just get lynched? The ascetic claim is a non-issue given how many people still want to lynch you, as well as it being a negative utility role for town. It is not a role that can nab scum via PoE, so I don't see how it's so dangerous that scum would not lynch you and instead prioritize you for a NK.

In post 3869, Birds of Prey wrote:
I make a big deal about any assumption not founded in evidence. You should know this by now. Also, even in multiball looking at wagons and counterwagons are not worthless.


I think the fact that the game is 28p big is a good enough reason to assume multiball, and 1 night worth of information is not reason enough to discount the idea.

In post 3869, Birds of Prey wrote:
The post calling my move to Neil as scummy is it.


You mean this?:

In post 3805, BulbaFenix wrote:Also, #3765 is scum motivated.

-Bulba


Tell me, where did I criticize you for switching wagons?

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Post Post #3871 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:31 pm

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Bulba, except there is some resistance to lynching me. There's also a counterwagon to me. Why take the risk on someone when they are easy to eliminate or wagon later for "living too long", or leave them available for a vig. The role isn't dangerous, the positions on the votecount would be.

No. FEA had 29 and was not multiball. UPick fire and ice had 25 and was not multiball.

I don't mean that post. I mean your post immediately after I switched to Neil. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6071883

You criticize us for moving to Neil (dropping our vote to a place where it would be more useful). Yet, you encouraged Neil and someone else to not vote vanity wagons.

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Post Post #3872 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:32 pm

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In post 3871, Titus wrote:Bulba, except there is some resistance to lynching me. There's also a counterwagon to me. Why take the risk on someone when they are easy to eliminate or wagon later for "living too long", or leave them available for a vig. The role isn't dangerous, the positions on the votecount would be.

No. FEA had 29 and was not multiball. UPick fire and ice had 25 and was not multiball.

I don't mean that post. I mean your post immediately after I switched to Neil. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6071883

You criticize us for moving to Neil (dropping our vote to a place where it would be more useful). Yet, you encouraged Neil and someone else to not vote vanity wagons.

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Post Post #3873 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:32 pm

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Oh and before I forget, band of 7 is perfect to have as one scumteam in this game.

The only evidence supporting multiball is the number of players.
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Post Post #3874 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:33 pm

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Do you not count SK as multiball?

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