Newbie Game Queue

[Zebulin]

/in for next

[tanstalas]

/in for whatever. Prefer to play with the guy above me but if not, whatever

[Breshke]

/in for next

[Csareo]

The wait time for the queue is unbearable

[GrayFoxxxx]

The wait time for the queue is unbearable

Agreed.

[Bins]

I don't like complaining, but there should really have at least two list mods for this queue. Vel seems to be the least active of all the list mods, and I understand it's a hard job (plus people have other lives), but the queue shouldn't be this long if there are enough people for two more games.

Making sure newbies have a smooth, fast transition into playing is the most important part about gaining new, active players on this site. At lot of them don't respond after waiting in queue for a week or more.

[GrayFoxxxx]

What is the average wait time for a game?

[OkaPoka]

Around 3 to 5 days for me.

[Bins]

The person at the top of the line has been waiting for 11 days.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Bins- Is there any immediate way to see where you are in the line?

[Maestro]

The OP.

[OkaPoka]

Thats due to the lack of mods.

If the newbie queue need more speed, we need more mods. When I was waiting we had quite a few mods.

[GrayFoxxxx]

The OP.

Could you point my name out bro? I can't find it.

[Maestro]

Updated through

Post 4707, pg. 189

Moderators:

Rubicon - waiting on game review
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Baezu
Rob13
Natirasha
Cabd
Rob13
Jackal711
Marquis - waiting on setup review
fferyllt
Chevlon
Xalxe

Actually, we're fine on Mods.

Generally, these kinds of discussion come up often and Vel can talk about it if he feels the need to, but ListMods are often older (in every sense of the word) members of the site that have their own schedules to work around when updating their Queues as they see fit. Quadz (the Micro Queue ListMod) only updates Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays - if a game fills on a Thursday people will sometimes complain but that's how he does it because it keeps him to a schedule that he knows he can accommodate. I'm sure Vel and Tierce and Llama all do the same thing.

Another factor to consider is there's a lot of work going on behind the scenes that not even the normal game Moderators know about, let alone new players. ListMods are in constant contact with most game moderators because of a myriad of issues with games in their queues. Modkills for breaking Site Rules, player game bans for personal attacks, Mods flaking from a game they were supposed to run or from the site in general - each and every ListMod has to deal with these things.

On top of that, Vel is on constant alert to make sure he has qualified SEs in the correct queue, he needs to make sure the OP has enough extra players that Moderators can steal some newer players when somebody inevitably flakes from their first game, and he deals with IC and first-time Newbie Moderator qualifying PMs on a constant basis.

Ignorance is bliss, people, but patience is a virtue.

PEDIT: @GrayFoxxxx - If you've "/inned" since Vel last updated the queues you won't appear in the OP at all until he updates it at least once.

[Maestro]

he needs to make sure the OP has enough extra players that Moderators can steal some newer players when somebody inevitably flakes from their first game

I'm positive if Vel were to enter this discussion this would be something he mentions, not only because he's had this discussion and mentioned this issue before, but because it's one that kindof slides by most players who've never Modded in this queue.

THIS

is what keeps games going at a regular pace - not having an immediate replacement stops a game cold while people are already playing, which is debatably a bigger issue than keeping a game from starting.

For a discussion somewhat related to this one (I think there are still some valid points I didn't mention that pertain to this queue), feel free to look here. Find quadz08's first post in that topic and take a gander.

EDIT: I'm referring to this post.

[Bins]

Yeah, I'm positive they do their best and I'm very appreciative for that! And damn, I never thought about the needing to have extra players in queue. Thanks for informing me.

[nergal]

/in

[Malakittens]

/in2modx3.

[Rob14]

I'm positive if Vel were to enter this discussion this would be something he mentions, not only because he's had this discussion and mentioned this issue before, but because it's one that kindof slides by most players who've never Modded in this queue. THIS is what keeps games going at a regular pace - not having an immediate replacement stops a game cold while people are already playing, which is debatably a bigger issue than keeping a game from starting.

Absolutely this. We could probably do with less than two full games worth of newbies in the queue, but honestly, better safe than sorry. It's much more important to keep the games currently launched from having to stop and wait multiple days for a replacement (something that destroys a game in progress) than to launch an extra game and get it going a few days earlier.

[Nobody Special]

Newbie 1507 has ended in a draw.

[Maestro]

o.O

[Not_Mafia]

Happily ever after rule

[Maestro]

Haven't seen a Newbie Game go that way for awhile.

[Xayzeck]

o.O

exactly what I was thinking when I saw the draw

[Rob14]

Haven't seen a Newbie Game go that way for awhile.

Time for another discussion, then.