Mafia 60: Face-to-Face - Game over!

[Thesp]

Still here, and still most comfortable with my vote on CES, though I was sad to see Zindaras come up town.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Well, that was a useful post, Thesp. How insightful.

[Glork]

FoS: Thesp

I expect

some

level of analysis on everything that has happened recently.

[Nightfall]

Nightfall appeared to be somewhat on the ball early and has given up. Did a PBPA on half the town alphabetically, which is suspect. Upped his posting when he was about to be lynched, then disappeared again. Has asked one question in the past month, and it was about himself.

When this game first started I was really eager to help out. It was my first invite game. At the start I really thought that Andrew was scummy, and when he turned up town I was truely surprised and I became a little doubtful of my abilities. That paired with a reduced amount of time I had to participate lead to few posts from me. Lately after a long absense herself, Ether once again pounces on me acusing me of being scum. Seeing as how she's been doing it for the whole game it has got a little anoying and bothersome. I have recently come to believe from the way things are going that my time in this game is running short. Therefore I have posted my thoughts on who I believe to be scum and asked those who doubted my sincerity to please once I am gone look back over what I have said. I only ask this so that other town members who outlive me can see what I, a fellow town member had been thinking and where my mind was.

[Patrick]

Activity from me will be lower because my exam period is approaching.

Skimming back over some posts, I'd like to ask MgM and Nightfall what the case against Ether is. MBL said that MgM has been coasting on myself and Ether, and looking back he does have a point. Also Nightfall, why did you avoid the Zindy issue entirely?

[Nightfall]

Pat>
I had thought that I mentioned prodding Zindaras a few times but looking back I guess I didn't. My thoughts at the time were that we should prod him and if he doesn't pick them up or contribute after a period of time than a modkill would be acceptable. I wasn't sure how easy getting a replacement for an invitation game that is approaching 60 pages in length would be.

Why I am pro Ether lynch is because of a few things. At the very start of the game Ether seemed to defend Andrew to the point that it looked almost as if she "knew" he would turn out to be town. In order to do this though she misrepresented the facts a few times used Wifom thoughts to argue her points and on quite a few occasions seemed to get very defensive and resort to character attacks against myself, MGM, and I believe others. Since that period of the game, she too has been a heavy lurker showing up only after multiple requests for her to do so, and only when people are throwing around the idea of her lynch. When she does decide to pop in it is to just once again attack primarily myself but also others aswell.

[Glork]

Stating that you think somebody was defending a pro-town player as if the "knew" they were pro-town is ridiculous. In Lights Out 2, back on D1, I made a list of players who I thought were pro-town. As far as I can remember, everybody on that list who died did so as a pro-town player. If you think that she did it in a way such that she "knew" he was pro-town,

show that

. Explain

why

her posts indicated that she

knew

he was pro-town, rather than just defending somebody who she

thought

was pro-town. Saying "I think she knew information that only scum could know" just does not cut it. Point out the specific posts, lines, and phrases that led you to your conclusion.

[Patrick]

You did indeed say on day 1 that you thought she was defending him, "with the apparent belief that he can't really do wrong" but that doesn't really seem true when I look back at her posts.

[Glork]

*BUMP*

I would like to remind everybody that we have less than five days to arrive at a lynch. Considering Thesp, MGM, and Ether have contributed little to nothing in the past five days, this is a very serious issue.

I'm going to go ahead and PM Stoofer asking for an extension, and I encourage at least 3 others to do the same. But the main reason I want an extension is because I want some more very sharp, modprods -- preferrably with a branding iron. Make sure it says "

GLORK'D!

" please, Stoofer.

[Patrick]

Sent a extension request to Stoofer. This helps me personally because I have a very busy time until the 25th.

[Thesp]

I will send a request, but haven't done so yet.

I just don't see Ether as scum. I'm waffling on Nightfall, his latest posts reek of the "doth protest too much" when referring to himself as a "townie". I could go with a MrBuddyLee lynch. Pretty easily, the more I read. I still think Glork is very town. I still don't see why so many people are convinced of CES's innocence. At all.

[Nightfall]

*Posting in all my games*
I will be away until tuesday because of the long weekend.
I dont believe I will have internet access, but if I find that I do, I will be sure to post something.

I am PM'ing Stoofer right now to request an Extension.

@Glork / Pat > For most of this game Ether has pressed her stance that Andrews comment was NOT a WIFOM issue and not scummy. No mater how much Thesp in particular pressed and discussed the issure she continued to take the position that Andrew wasn't wrong or scummy in anyway. It MIGHT not be an issue of knowing that he'd turn out town, but there was deffinately some sort of Halo effect mindset going on there.

@Thesp > As for my recent posts, I feal pretty bad that I haven't been able to pull my weight in this game. These posts were reflective of this fact and also answers to questions from others.

[Glork]

So because she took the opposite stance as Thesp and happened to be right, she had inside information?

I have

adamantly

demanded people whom I felt were pro-town, even without

knowing

it in past games. I still don't understand how this specific case is different in your eyes.

Out of curiosity, Nightfall: What do you think of Ether's failure to hammer Thesp at the end of Day Two? I do believe that you've posted your thoughts, but my memory fails me...


I'd like to see one more post from somebody else saying they've requested extension, just as insurance.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I've requested extension, although I'd be surprised if he granted it.

Vote: Nightfall

, he's very probably the right lynch right now.

[Mgm]

*BUMP*

I would like to remind everybody that we have less than five days to arrive at a lynch. Considering Thesp, MGM, and Ether have contributed little to nothing in the past five days, this is a very serious issue.

Yes, I've been inactive and it's been entirely my fault. I had my birthday on the 16th and I had visitors because of that all week - at least two of which completely unannounced (on different nights). I will also be away on Sunday.

Activity from me will be lower because my exam period is approaching.

Skimming back over some posts, I'd like to ask MgM and Nightfall what the case against Ether is. MBL said that MgM has been coasting on myself and Ether, and looking back he does have a point. Also Nightfall, why did you avoid the Zindy issue entirely?

I must've explained it in one of my posts before. I don't have the time to repeat myself, so you'll have to do with Nightfall's response for now.

I will be active again on monday but I hope some lynch is decided before that.

[Patrick]

Last I saw you were attacking her (and me) over not hammering Thesp. You now claim to think Thesp is protown. Do you believe failing to hammer a likely protown player is scummy? Otherwise your old "case" is redundant.

[Mr Stoofer]

Vote Count

Cogito Ergo Sum: 2 (Nightfall Thesp)
Nightfall: 2 (Ether CES)
MrBuddyLee: 1 (Mgm)

Not voting: Patrick Glork MBL

Looking for

5

votes for a lynch!

Also, by popular request:

Deadline revoked!

-- for now.

[Mr Stoofer]

OK, I've read this thread now for the first time since I got back. Although I did get the requisite number of requests for a deadline extension, the activity level in this game is really too low. I hate games drag on forever and this game is in danger of that. If the activity level was greater then I wouldn't be doing this.

Final Deadline:

Tuesday 29th May 10am BST

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Way to get our hopes up, Stoofs.

Glrok, Patrick, vote for Nighfall, please. I'm sure we can get someone to hammer.

[Glork]

Vote: Nightfall

MOD: Did you send the prods that I had requested?

[Mr Stoofer]

Ether has been prodded.

[Thesp]

Ether was prodded more than a week ago in another game I'm in with her, and she was replaced in that one. I think she needs replaceage/modkill, which is a shame since I think she's more likely to be town.

[Glork]

This

replacement

modkill policy is ridiculous.

[Mr Stoofer]

This

replacement

modkill policy is ridiculous.

The Ether situation is slightly different from Zindaras, in that Ether does seem to have vanished from the face of the Earth.

I am therefore going to look for a replacement among players of a similar calibre to those who were invited into the game in the first place. All of you have my permission, even encouragement, to ask around for possible replacements. But I think we should all bear in mind that this game is 60 pages long and this makes replacing difficult...

Deadline (still):

Tuesday 29th May 10am BST

[Nightfall]

I thought Ether was scummy not because she didn't hammer Thesp but because she had said she would, and without posting otherwise before the deadline, she failed to do so.

MOD: Because of my normal lack of time and because of additional complications in my personal life, I will have to ask for a potential replacement. I would really like to see this game through but real life is more important and I am working on a very delicate situation. It doesn't help my situation to be worried about being lynched here, and it certainly doesn't help the town for me to neglect this game for my own reasons. I'm sorry I didn't do this earlier but I thought I could hold out till the end. Sadly I was wrong. Sorry.