Micro 365 - ALL YEAR LONG haha see what i did there (over)

[snscompt1]

Oh man. We're getting active.

[Maruchan]

the towniest thing that can be done at this point is to engage with your group. as town, you know that most likely 1 of the 2 people in your group is scum. so, upon entry into the game, why would you be inclined to show you agree with a statement someone from your group (who could easily be scum) about someone who isn't in your group.

obviously all page 1 reads can change, but that's what my initial reaction to N_M was

this was my townread of pants

[Maruchan]

Page 1 reads!!!

xay is town
naz is semi town
sns is town b/c he called N_M and

N_M is scum
Salamance is scum

both get scum reads for not engaging with their fruit groups

but i dont like this

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Not_Mafia

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Huckleberry

Dr Pants

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Xayzeck

Maruchan

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Dr Pants

Xayzeck

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Ilama

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Deadline is in

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[Dr Pants]

But I won't agree to that, because I know pants thinks I am scum because I chose to ignore the fact that I have a 33% chance of being *REQUIRED* to miss-lynch a townie by game rules, and pretend in my happy go lucky make believe world, that I'm either lynching town, or lynching scum.

Actually this is the correct mindset, and not why I think you are scum. I completely agree that the best way to do this is to play as if there was a guaranteed scum in every group. I think you are scum because I liked the way Xay reacted to me, and your reasons for your read seemed forced.

[Dr Pants]

Oh man. We're getting active.

Its beautiful

[Dr Pants]

Initial thoughts are that there is almost definitely a scum in Huckleberries.

This post seems out of place

[Maruchan]

And now Pants lost his town read.

79 says in layman's terms "i think you're scum because i already committed myself to buddying xayzeck and called him town so i can't call maruchan town he must be scum"

[Not_Mafia]

@Maru Don't particularly agree but feel but I can where you're coming from

@SNS

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This is a 7:2 mountainous game with a votimg mechanic. It is very comparible to regular game

Most of what you said can be said about any other game. I do not either, think so much of myself that people will sheep me, or, think so little of the others that they can't take others opinions and make their own decison. So I will be giving my reads and opinions on other groups.

Again. This just give scum an excuse to avoid relational tells. 7:2 is inherently scumsided, going in to a 4:1 (woth a conf town) tomorrow where we can't use any sort of associative would not be good for village's chances

[Not_Mafia]

They were at 73 and 74. Phonepostong is a bit too much of a headache for me right now. Will return to this tomorrow

[snscompt1]

I'm going to agree to disagree with you because I think this is simply "to each their own" scenario. I disagree that this is like a normal game in any sense.

I will drop it but stick with my opinions.

Also, in case there is a misunderstanding, I said it's fine to give reads and such, but simply not to sway anyone's vote. That is a poor decision if you're town.

[Not_Mafia]

I get what you're saying. Agreed to agree to disagree.

[snscompt1]

I get what you're saying. Agreed to agree to disagree.

Cool. You might be town.

Naz to get on. Two heads and nothin? Hm hm.

[Dr Pants]

And now Pants lost his town read.

79 says in layman's terms "i think you're scum because i already committed myself to buddying xayzeck and called him town so i can't call maruchan town he must be scum"

lol ok? Im saying that Xay gave the reaction I expected from town, and your scum read of Xay was what I expected from scum.

N_M soft assertion that "theirs definitely scum in

this

group" makes me think that N_M is scum.

[Maruchan]

>hey look i self voting in first game post
>hey look me and someone else bullshitted and made funny he has a sense of humor
>sense of humor must be town


yeah, making a joke = town. Good scumhunting there.

[snscompt1]

Lol. Joking is harder to fake as scum because it can get you in trouble.
Frankie says relax! Go do it! If you wanna go do it!

Anyways, scum tend to be more serious. I have a distinct scum vs town personality that I cant seem to shake.

Pants is town in my books. Mostly.

[Dr Pants]

here's my thought process behind all of this, if you think its wrong in some way then go for it but you should at least gather that I thought this through:

I self vote, and claim scum. In doing so, I rob both you and Xay of the ability to do and RVS vote.

Now, in cases where town claims scum and tries to get lynched, what is the optimal move for scum to make? If scum engages with said townie, they have to fake 2 reactions: reacting to the scum claim and reacting to the town flip. Additionally, spearheading a lynch against a player who pulled a gambit like that would throw a lot of focus and attention onto whoever did so. In short, engaging with a townie who claimed scum is a bad idea as scum.

Now, as town, if a player claims scum then the optimal move is to vote that person. There is no need to worry about the flip and any attention that may come form it.

In short, scum avoids the gambit, town is attracted to it. Since Xay's reaction was to say "uhhh no" and instantly vote me, I see Xay as town. Since you opened by scum reading Xay via PoE, I see you as scum.

Scum is much more inclined to play with their brains than with their balls. Xay was playing with his balls on page 1.

[Dr Pants]

[Maruchan]

Lol. Joking is harder to fake as scum because it can get you in trouble.
Frankie says relax! Go do it! If you wanna go do it!

Anyways, scum tend to be more serious. I have a distinct scum vs town personality that I cant seem to shake.

Pants is town in my books. Mostly.

I have never once heard of this serious vs playfulness tell before, and can definitely say I do nto conform to it.

So if my "seriousness" is the entirety of Pants' scumread on me, I suggest he goes and reads pretty much any game except for great/er/est/cracking idea micros I have played in, to see how serious I am.

[Dr Pants]

its not your seriousness maru, I literally just explained my entire thought process

[Maruchan]

Since Xay's reaction was to say "uhhh no" and instantly vote me, I see Xay as town

uh. no he didn't. He fucked around with you for a few posts making jokes, then dropped an RVS on you.

[snscompt1]

Hey, feelsgoodman.jpeg
Playing with your balls or having someone play with them for you ain't nothin' to be ashamed of.

Pedit. I wasnt referring to you. I dont care why pants scum reads you. If you wanna see a difference in playstyle for joking vs seriousness, check out my games. Two scum ones, very serious, the rest are town basically. Since thats what I do, I lean town on Pants.

[Maruchan]

Scum is much more inclined to play with their brains than with their balls. Xay was playing with his balls on page 1.

Lol Pants needs 2 lrn 2 maruchan.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=58217
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=58403


In fact, after looking at my wiki I just noticed a trend.
As a bad guy (disregarding greater idea upick where me dying was pro-win-con), I have NEVER been Lynched day 1, or killed night 1. As Town. I have more day 1 lynches under my belt than any other 5 day/night phases combined.

So no, as town, I tend to play serious and get lynched the fuck out of for it. As scum I tend to bullshit and fuck around and last a long time as it.

Pants is now scum, xay is still null

[Dr Pants]

oh you.

I tell you, 100% transparently why I think you are scum. I include my assumptions about how I think scum will play. Your response? "Pants is scum b/c he doesn't know my meta game"



take shots at my arguments all you want but that is just plain stupid

and while we're boasting, let me tell you something, mr. "I have NEVER been Lynched day 1".

I have NEVER been lynched, period.

[Maruchan]

...

you need to learn to read.

I said as SCUM I have never been lynched day one.
I said as town I die more often day one than anything else. I think half of my deaths are town day 1 lynches.