Open 563 - Jungle Republic (Night 5~)

[snscompt1]

That's my explanation for my vote. What's your reason for originally voting me? Oh right. Because I voted you for that reason.

Pedit. I've only made one hard to read wall I believe. I believe it's necessary because apparently I have votes on me. Why won't it get them off? It might.

Pedit2: It got the vote off.

[Bins]

Her vote for snscompt is incredibly opportunistic.

First she says this;

Both of you aren't making sense much sense at all. Sns' vote 'cause selfvote was bad. Reinoe's vote in response to that was bad.
So if it's any consolation to you, I like reinoe's vote less.

-Somewhat a fence sit
-Calls reinoe's vote for snscompt bad
-Says reinoe's vote is worse than snscompt's vote

At this point, I was "on the fence", because I didn't think either of them were scum, I just thought their votes were bad.

-by this point Not_Mafia had voted snscompt
-Bins now sides with reinoe
-her reasoning in this quote is bad and looks like an attempt at originality (what's wrong with asking to be meta'd?)

She seems to have changed her mind because of post 39. But post 39 shouldn't have caused her to change her mind. One bad post caused a radical change in her reads? Looks opportunistic.

I sided with Not_Mafia. I didn't like Reinoe's reasons at all for the vote. I thought they were weak and didn't make much sense to me, even from the beginning.
Not_Mafia came in with stronger points that I did agree with.
And I really didn't like sns' defense. Asking to be meta'd is bad because he could know he's not acting like he usually does as scum. He could have changed his play style. That's what didn't sit right to me.

[reinoe]

Oh lordy. I pray to the heavens

someone cant be this daft

but then I realize theyre just scum.

You're scum because of an opportunistic jump on Reinoe with no progression in your read

You argue that it was opportunistic, I say it wasn't, I say it would be too obvious as scum, you say WIFOM.
This is how the whole Day has gone down so far:
1) Reineo self votes
2) I vote Reineo and give a reason
3) Reineo unvotes and votes me for being opportunistic scum
4) I get two more votes on me while I try to explain why I voted
5) Reineo continues to insult and frankly draw terrible conclusions no matter what alignment he is. I'm ignoring him for that.

He's a distraction.

When has there been any time for me to further my read? My vote on Reineo is still because of the self vote and

his idiocy.

I got attacked for my read. I have to defend myself. How exactly do I make more of a case on him when I'm being attacked? I already stated my case.

[snscompt1]

Oh my such rage. Yes, that's me attacking you so much. /s

[reinoe]

Oh my such rage. Yes, that's me attacking you so much. /s

That's not rage.

[snscompt1]

Also, Bins. I said feel free to meta me, I don't know if it will help. I still don't know why nor how my play is different as town vs scum.

Pedit. I veiw bolding and enlarging that much as rage. But it hardly matters.

[Bins]

^ I also don't like sns' "I know I'm right and you're wrong" tone of voice. It seems fake and like he's only attempting to sound confident.

I guess you could say the same for Reinoe, but that just seems like who he is.

[reinoe]

Also, Bins. I said feel free to meta me, I don't know if it will help. I still don't know why nor how my play is different as town vs scum.

Pedit. I veiw bolding and enlarging that much as rage. But it hardly matters.

I use font modification to highlight key points. You're doing everything you can to justify your erroneous assumptions.

[reinoe]

Oh my such rage. Yes, that's me attacking you so much. /s

Also yes that's you attacking me and not my argument. Just like your "oh my such rage" comment.

[Bins]

It was still the only "defence" you made or had to say in response to the votes.

[snscompt1]

Ok. I will take back the idiocy thing. I apologize. You are being thick though. And a distraction, though that's hardly a personal attack.

pedit. Bins, what? I never said I was right and someone else was wrong. Where are you getting this tone from?

pedit2: Very large key points. You're enlarging them so you can justify your erroneous arguments.

pedit3: How is "Oh my such rage." Attacking you?

[snscompt1]

It was still the only "defence" you made or had to say in response to the votes.

I didn't feel I needed a defense because I failed to see the reasoning behind the votes besides people disagreeing with my conclusion on Reineos meta.

[reinoe]

Ok. I will take back the idiocy thing. I apologize. You are being thick though. And a distraction, though that's hardly a personal attack.

pedit. Bins, what? I never said I was right and someone else was wrong. Where are you getting this tone from?

pedit2: Very large key points. You're enlarging them so you can justify your erroneous arguments.

pedit3: How is "Oh my such rage." Attacking you?

Calling me thick and daft is attempting to discredit my character.
calling me a distraction is attempting to discredit my character.
p.e. 2. This is the second time you've implied that I'm lying about my motives with no basis. I've used font modification in just about every game I've ever played. I can't think of any I haven't done it.
p.e. 3. Implying that I'm raging is an attempt to discredit the rationality of my argument without attacking my argument.


Six pages in and no explanation about how self voting during rvs is scummy or out of character for me.

[Bins]

It starts in the second post you ever made.

[snscompt1]

It could be an attempt to discredit your character if it was false. But it's not since you're tunneling and have no case on me besides OMGUS.
That was a joke. Jeez.
No it wasn't that was sarcasm.

Six pages in and I already explained and stand by it. Six pages in and no one agrees with your points. No one. Nor mine but I'm okay with that.

Pedit. Bins, I need a little more than that.

[snscompt1]

Its a good vote. Thanks. Im keeping it.

So I should've unvoted because they said it was a bad vote? I didn't feel like my explanation would do much good. Oh look. It didn't.

[reinoe]

2. Can you give me an example of all scum being on a day 1 mislynch or of several scum quickly hopping on a bandwagon?
(tia)
.

I'm not ignoring this point wicked. I have to go to work and posting will be limited or non-existent for several hours.

Short version it happened in Mini 1579 and Open 550. But those were games that I played/replaced into. All scum on the wagon.


Mini-1578 scum quickly jumped on a wagon.

pe:edit. One person agrees with my point and bjc said your vote was bad. It's disengenuous to say nobody agrees with my point when half the people in this game haven't commented yet.

pe:edit 2. your explanation isn't doing much good because it's a complete fabrication.

[bjc]

Votes need to be on:
-bins
-shaded
-paschendale or whatever

Those are where votes need to be right now. Preferably bins or pasch.

[bjc]

Also I may possibly be V/LA for the next 10 days.

[Bins]

God, it's not the context of what you said. It's the tone. Honestly, most of the stuff you said was fine at first, that's why I didn't like the original vote on you. But I never liked the way you spoke.

I'm going to meta you because I think that's the best idea right now. I was always going to, I'm just going through a hard time with work, so I'll do it when I have time. (which will definitely be by at least tomorrow)

[snscompt1]

Who agrees with your point? NM? He already unvoted and had better reasons than you. I asked why he thought I was scum and he brought up no argument you have made. Bjc is voting me. Doesn't mean he agrees with you. No one has said they agree with you. A few have said they disagree. I am fine with how I worded it.

And that's fine.

pedit: bjc. disappearing for 10 days? oh my.

I was thinking about voting Pasch but not sure yet. Shaded and bins are fine.


Pedit2: You can read my tone through the internet? Please don't try to do that. I've learned to stop doing that long ago. You read stuff the way you want to read it or how you would say it. And that's fine. I haven't meta'd myself yet. I look forward to it

[snscompt1]

Also. Goodnight for now. Might be on later.

[Bins]

Pedit2: You can read my tone through the internet? Please don't try to do that. I've learned to stop doing that long ago. You read stuff the way you want to read it or how you would say it. And that's fine. I haven't meta'd myself yet. I look forward to it

It's not hard to get tone through writing. I still think your tone is fake and unnecessary. esp. if you're town, because you don't need to play up an act.

I'm not going to unvote you until I see a better vote (the closest thing to that is honestly reinoe). And I see nothing wrong with Pasch, he looks town.

[snscompt1]

My "tone" is simply what Im writing and not exaggerated. Why would I need to do that. So obviously it is hard to get tone. This is annoyance btw. "I dont like your tone" is not a good argument. Kinda like my argument! Yay!
Youre seeing things that arent there and when I tell you that youre misunderstanding you still say my tone is fake. Thats really smooth. Making an argument that my tone is "Im right, youre wrong" and you do the same thing when Im talking about what I really mean lol. I find that more amusing than annoying tbh.

[snscompt1]

That was worded terribly but you get my point lol.