InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)
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ActionDan He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Votecount 1.28
Young and Beautiful 10 (Birds of Prey, HighShroomish, The Goat, xofelf, shos, TSO, geists, Abomination, Mist7676, Lord Mhork)
xofelf 6 (Egg, ActionDan, AngryIcerink, Moogle Dance Troupe, BBmolla, Young and Beautiful)
Lemniscate 4 (Squirrel Girl, Svenskt Stål, ProHawk, Nero Cain)
shos 3 (BulbaFenix, Majiffy, Venmar)
Nero Cain 2 (Squirrel Girl, neil1113)
Abomination 1 (Katsuki)
Lord Mhork 1 (Lemniscate)
Always 1 (beastcharizard)
BBmolla 1 (Always)
15 to lynch.
Deadline: July 18, 2 PM EST.Last edited by Cephrir on Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:27 pm, edited 1 time in total."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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Squirrel Girl Mafia Scum
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In post 1724, Young and Beautiful wrote:When you're talking about posting a lot, I'm fairly sure you mean my posts yesterday.
As for those, I'm fairly sure the vast majority of them did contain content in the form of me scumreading T S O, and explaining why based mostly on meta in there too.
I don't think that qualifies as noncontent and I don't enjoy people trying to pass it off as such.
I'm talking about your iso as a whole in this game - I do not think the percentages favor you if I was to bother going through and tagging each post as 'fluff' or 'not fluff'.-
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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'Is active lurking scummy?' Is up for debate.
'Is active lurking scummier than pure lurking?'
'Am I 100% active lurking? ' I've seen far too many examples of active lurkers flipping town. In fact, from what I have seen, they are mislynch bait more often than not. For example, saki.
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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OK.
I don't really have anything to say to that other than that we're still town in spite of and potentially even because of that, but given that you can't meta me and I perhaps stubbornly don't want you to meta me, there's not much I can do.
The only defense I can think of that you might actually think about is that in a game of this size- 28 players- it benefits scum much more and scum probably would feel more comfortable to simply lurk through Day 1.
By posting a lot, we're putting ourselves out there. We don't have anywhere to be or anything to hide. That last line sounds a bit scummy even to me, but fine. That's that.
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Egg Jack of All Trades
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geists Mafia Scum
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In post 1728, Young and Beautiful wrote:'Is active lurking scummy?' Is up for debate.
'Is active lurking scummier than pure lurking?'
'Am I 100% active lurking? ' I've seen far too many examples of active lurkers flipping town. In fact, from what I have seen, they are mislynch bait more often than not. For example, saki.
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Birds of Prey Goon
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In post 1725, ActionDan wrote:Pbpa of all posts is a red flag and not that town of hs.
Why is this? Links please.
Young and Beautiful, you know what might actually help you out. Content. Thoughts on players in the game. This is the third or fourth time I've asked. Oh and you won't like me when I'm angry.-
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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How about
'Because active lurkers flip town?'
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Birds of Prey Goon
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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Oh, you want my thoughts, Birds of Prey?
Let me begin with you:
You're a scummy little shit that goes for easy mislynches and throws flak from the sidelines.
Specifically to head: Venus Fly Trap
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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In post 1725, ActionDan wrote:Pbpa of all posts is a red flag and not that town of hs.
Yo. Action dan, explain this. I've never played with user: highshroomosh before.
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ActionDan He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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ActionDan He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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How reliable would you judge your meta knowledge of him?
Have you seen him use pbpa as scum?
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ActionDan He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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Dangit, HighShroomish. By posting that case of yours that was genuine, but generally yields inconclusive results especially in high-level theme games, you've painted a big flashing target on me that scum would gladly hop onto for the lynch.
I actually didn't pay attention to how the shos wagon or xoxelf wagon dissolved, but as my turn in the Defendants seat, I'm trying my best to minimize the possibility of my own lynch that would be what any legitimate player would do.
If I'm making the assumption of there being a scumteam of 7, then it is definite that some of them are taking the opportunity to vote me now.
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Birds of Prey Goon
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How can PbPA be an indicator of scum if there's no meta knowledge Action Dan?
Young and Beautiful, you were far from an easy lynch. You have produced no content and shifted around on the major wagons like anyone but you is acceptable. You refuse to actually analyze the game but for a fake OMGUS on me. Now, actually give the multiple reads you are talking about.
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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Quote that post about reads which you are referring to.
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ActionDan He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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And I am going to make myself clear. There are too many scum in this game and we can only lynch one a day. I've given my reads as to who are scum; and I expect them to be lynched, day by day. That's all. I'm not going to be like mastin and spell out whole scumteams for you ( and they are usually wrong anyway so um, I prize accuracy over appeasing snots like you).
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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In post 1744, ActionDan wrote:Pbpa is by far the most annoying crap I have ever come across in mafia games to read through. It's generally to be avoided. It's easy for scum to do if they wish to do it and looks somewhat impressive because of how it long the post gets using quotes.
Put it into context. Take a look at HS's PbPa and tell us what you think of that specific one. It's in the last page in spoilers.
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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Shifting around on major wagons is due in part to us being a hydra with reads that we haven't synced up at all as of yet, and in part to us actually being town and not sure at all who is scum except for probably T S O.
And now that I think about it, lately I've been observing site scum meta as slightly adverse to wagon hopping. This of course doesn't always apply, but I see scum more and more often picking a mislynch of choice and trying to stick to it. This isn't exactly a point I'm trying to use in our favor, but something I've noticed that I feel is fairly interesting and I want to see if it plays out here too.
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Birds of Prey Goon
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In post 1372, Young and Beautiful wrote:If you want a serious answer, since the situation seems to demand one for once, I'm focusing on what comes to me.
There are 27 other slots in this game. I'm not willing to actively analyze every single one.
"But Young and Beautiful, that's what mafia's all about!"
Maybe. It's pointless if nobody's going to listen. Most Day 1s are filled with a lot of noise that barely anyone goes back to. I'm spending my time making light of it, and while in theory I should probably try to come up with some opinions on more than just the select few players that are popping out to me, I'm probably not going to.
Personally, I believe that at this point in the game focusing on what sticks out to me is much more productive than trying to focus on everything at once, and as a result spreading myself too thin.
When I am inevitably mislynched and inevitably flip town (I don't think anyone's townreading me at this point, which is to be expected after my outbursts but a shame anyway),I think it'd be better if I died with lasting opinions on select players and subjects because that's what I focused on trying to analyze, rather than straining myself to find a read on other players that'll only end in ideas even I don't believe anymore,
In short, I'm not going to play the whole "full votecount analysis and full playerlist reads" game because nobody really cares or is going to care in the end anyway. It's like the idea of inception, and I'm going to focus on the reads I think are important, and drive deep to try and make them stick even after I flip.
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Yeah, what does Y want to stick after you flip?
That is if you even had that discussion with your heads regarding those reads.
Yeah PbPA isn't a reason to clear someone, but if the logic works it works.
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Young and Beautiful Goon
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I have no idea what Y was talking about nor what you are trying to insinuate, so I have no comment.
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