InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

[Always]

xofelf 6 (Egg, ActionDan, Always, AngryIcerink, Moogle Dance Troupe, BBmolla)
shos 6 (BulbaFenix, ProHawk, TSO, Majiffy, Venmar, Lord Mhork)
Young and Beautiful 6 (Birds of Prey, HighShroomish, geists, The Goat, xofelf, shos)

Nero Cain 3 (Abomination, Squirrel Girl, Mist7676)
Lemniscate 2 (Squirrel Girl, Svenskt Stål)
TSO 1 (Young and Beautiful)
AngryIcerink 1 (Nero Cain)
Abomination 1 (Katsuki)
Lord Mhork 1 (Lemniscate)
Always 1 (beastcharizard)
Not Voting 1 (neil1113)

Just want to say that the Y&B wagon basically wasn't there before. It's worth commenting on, though I'm not sure I can make much of it at this very moment.

Side-note, but I haven't seen Mala posting and I do worry about the possibility of me having alienated her, so I think I'll be needing to give her a ping 'cause I think her input would help me actually have not-so-fluid reads outside my towncorebloc whereas right now they are, which we could maybe work out in our topic.

...Actually, reading, I kinda want to do a vanity vote.

Vote: BBMolla

.

He's not being town.

[Always]

I think BBMolla's my strongest scumread.

[Nero Cain]

So like, SG claims to have a town read on Abomination. I then ask her her read on Abomination and says that she has no read on him. I point this out and SG ignores me. Why? Well she says that she forgot and it should have been obvious. That's bullshit.

But like any good lie it contains a kernel of truth. SHE IGNORED ME. She ignored me 'cause she hoped it would go away.

So when she replies after I press more she immediately OMGUS votes me 'cause its scummy of me to point out a logical flaw? This is angry outted scum. If she was town she just would have said that she forgot. And now she's screaming for my blood 'cause she wants me mislynched so her team doesn't have to waste a bullet on me.

I know you guys think this is town but its not.

[BBmolla]

Mastin it's been 67 pages, stop wasting time with a vote one me pls

[BBmolla]

Like it should be obvious why I just want the day to end, don't be stupid.

[geists]

Please explain the SG and Sven reads here.

I can't not think SG is town. Mindset seems totally town so far.

Svenskt is a gut read.

[Moogle Dance Troupe]

If he's scum, he has at least three buddies and at least four fake flavor claims to look at

Can you explain this for me.

Multiball would be 18-5-5, 20-4-4, or 19-4-5. Flavor fake-claims are almost certainly a thing.

In light of what AD said, 20-7-1 also seems possible, and would do a lot to explain why this game was designed to be so huge (to accommodate the entire Bo7).

[Lord Mhork]

Wait why do you think scum have day talk, mastin

[geists]

Neil is more town than I am, ffery. Butyeah, really liked the townread list. The only read I'd even remotely hesitate on (and it'd be bumping down, not eliminating nor disagreeing with) is Shroomish, and that's on AP's request.

Most of the kinda-town group I'm not exactly getting, though. Like the reads otherwise, though the townreads section is what I felt was the best.

Don't feel pressured by this, please. Not trying to force changes in read, just offering my own commentary on them.

The game is so large and unwieldy that I decided to add another group to my usual piles.

Kinda town = leaning town, but not as strongly as the first group
Maybe town = various shades of null

[geists]

Please explain the SG and Sven reads here.

Why those particular reads?

[ActionDan]

I can agree that SG could easily be scum here

[ActionDan]

I take back the word "easily". The debunk of shos scum was well done. Much hard on for Nero cain when forgetting a read is not alignment neutral plus spotlighting something that looks like a blatant contradiction isn't unnatural to do.

[Squirrel Girl]

So like, SG claims to have a town read on Abomination. I then ask her her read on Abomination and says that she has no read on him. I point this out and SG ignores me. Why? Well she says that she forgot and it should have been obvious. That's bullshit.

But like any good lie it contains a kernel of truth. SHE IGNORED ME. She ignored me 'cause she hoped it would go away.

So when she replies after I press more she immediately OMGUS votes me 'cause its scummy of me to point out a logical flaw? This is angry outted scum. If she was town she just would have said that she forgot. And now she's screaming for my blood 'cause she wants me mislynched so her team doesn't have to waste a bullet on me.

I know you guys think this is town but its not.

Why did it take you about three days to figure that out?

[T S O]

Why exactly do you feel that ignoring your vote for days and days and then accusing you is a scum action as opposed to a town action?

Because, as scum, he was handed a reason to suspect me and support for the wagon *before* he made the move.
As town...well, my basic argument is, I've never seen anyone do something I considered scummy enough to vote them over and then wait multiple days prior to even saying that I found it scummy. I mean, even if, say, he had better things to do with his vote - he would choose to not say 'I find this scummy'? Nah.

Your thoughts?

I'll also jump on the TSO town train - the AP interactions last page felt very genuine.

I feel it's irrational as either alignment. My view on it is that it's just a sign of wtf-Nero play as opposed to alignment-indicative.

But, if it was to be indicative, you're right - it's a lot more likely to come from scum than town.

[T S O]

Its logic makes total sense - I've just misread Nero too many times to accept that one wtf-moment means Nero is scum.

[Birds of Prey]

For Geists and BBMolla

Yes your case is flim flam geists.

I have no content scum who refuses to provide it and hops onto every major wagon. I have people like you/TSO saying they are scum, but still wanting a counterwagon anyway. They provide useless filler, which some people are townreading them for despite this wagon being fought for tooth and nail. Shos and xoe's wagons, overnight. Add in AP's sudden scumread on me after the Y and B wagon takes off...

How many people bailed on shos and xoelf because the wagon gained to much steam or they had other scumreads? Zero. You know why? Because they are town.

I wouldn't be surprised if we are looking at one team given the wagon behavior.

Compare that to

Asking Abomination to confirm whether they're a miller or not. That's literally the entire case on Leminscate. Yet, Geists sells that up as the best thing since sliced bread. Why wouldn't geists push it sooner if they believed the case was that good? Why wait until Y and B was the top wagon?

- VFT -

[Birds of Prey]

You in paragraph three is geists

- VFT -

[T S O]

Fine.

Unvote
Vote: Young and Beautiful

[T S O]

I love you, Jiffy, but I gotta do this.

[Lord Mhork]

Ok when did abomination ever claim to be a miller. Wasn't that someone else?

[Squirrel Girl]

High Shroomish sort of did it.

[Birds of Prey]

Burn with fire.

VOTE: Abomination

We have an additional power that we can forfeit to stop being a miller.

So will you use it?

Stop fighting. Now.

Like look at these and tell me the town intent.

He apparently plays similarly to me, and trust me--I can read myself.

Bad memory it was Moogle Troup that had the pseudo miller claim.

[Svenskt Stål]

Ffer

, i think we are playing our first town town game.

[geists]

Ffer

, i think we are playing our first town town game.

Not so! Polygamy and that horrible Donner Party game.

[geists]

For Geists and BBMolla

Yes your case is flim flam geists.

I have no content scum who refuses to provide it and hops onto every major wagon. I have people like you/TSO saying they are scum, but still wanting a counterwagon anyway. They provide useless filler, which some people are townreading them for despite this wagon being fought for tooth and nail. Shos and xoe's wagons, overnight. Add in AP's sudden scumread on me after the Y and B wagon takes off...

How many people bailed on shos and xoelf because the wagon gained to much steam or they had other scumreads? Zero. You know why? Because they are town.

I wouldn't be surprised if we are looking at one team given the wagon behavior.

Compare that to

Asking Abomination to confirm whether they're a miller or not. That's literally the entire case on Leminscate. Yet, Geists sells that up as the best thing since sliced bread. Why wouldn't geists push it sooner if they believed the case was that good? Why wait until Y and B was the top wagon?

- VFT -

I take exception to you calling my partner's case flim flam.