InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

[Always]

(Neither do I. People like it when you quote stuff and make thoughts though, or so I hear. I personally just look for motivation, call out scum, and then die while they don't get lynched)

For the record, this is something I'm actually really good at, too. It's all in the formatting. People like to joke and

say

they don't read Mastin posts, but unless I've ticked off a player (which typically only happens by tunneling hardcore on them)

that

much, they actually do.

Even the walls. (Actually, especially the walls--I'm actually not even the most notorious waller in basically any game, because my walls have been formatted to have a flow to them that most wallers lack, and I know when to hit submit, generally, a skill many wallers neglect to learn. They rarely exceed a screen length, barely even qualifying for the

name

"wall".)

There's two heads to this hydra. If I feel something is off with Mastin's reads, I'll let her know and she'll listen to me. So, if you don't want to interact with her then interact with me. If I get conflicting with reads, I'll damn right tell her, so yeah.

We'll talk in our topic pretty soon I reckon. I've more or less got reads, though in need of refinement. (Mhork's back to null for instance.)

A frequent dynamic in Mastin hydras is that I get really, really good at creating reads, tying them all together, having all these intricate webs, showing it all off in a fairly Sherlocky way (I have the show on my mind, 'kay? I've always identified with Sherlock thanks to personality similarities), but need a hydra partner (a Watson) to serve to slow me down, let the things unclear become explained, and hone in and refine my things. (More or less anyway.)

but SRS, why is Clyton town?

'Cause I said so.

[xofelf]

Ah, something came up in my life today so I am not in the proper mental state to deal with this game. I will come back to it tomorrow. Any questions or reactions wanted will have to wait til then.
Thank you.

[Lord Mhork]

._.
Mastin remember our hydra? Ya know, the reason we have this bad blood? Just saying...

PEDIT:
<3 xof. You have my sympathies there and I wish you the best.

[Cephrir]

Votecount 1.4

Abomination 6 (shos, kdowns, Young and Beautiful, Rhaego, Katsuki, Nero Cain)

shos 3 (Moogle Dance Troupe, BulbaFenix, Majiffy)

xofelf 2 (Svenskt Stål, Always)
kdowns 2 (xofelf, Iecerint)

ActionDan 1 (Lord Mhork)
Always 1 (ProHawk)
Young and Beautiful 1 (T S O)
Lord Mhork 1 (ActionDan)
Nero Cain 1 (beastcharizard)

Not Voting 10 (geists, Sakura Hana, Birds of Prey, Clyton, The Goat, BBmolla, Egg, Klick, Abomination, Venmar)

15 to lynch.

Deadline: July 18, 2 PM EST.

[Venmar]

No no, let it continue. I'm almost there.

Spoiler: nsfw

10/10 would fap to tom hanks again

actually his strokes are really broad/long, how long is this mans dick?

[Nero Cain]

but SRS, why is Clyton town?

'Cause I said so.

not good enuff. I'll be the first one to admit that I have a really hard time telling the difference between newb town and newb scum but guess what? Its an alt trying to look like a newbie. Though in tales of you it did try to look town so hey maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm right. Though my gut says its scum and unless it starts wowing me with content then I say lynch that shit.

also, you lurk like shit in our hydra, mastin.

[Majiffy]

I remember this dude! I liked this dude.

10/10 would fap to tom hanks again

actually his strokes are really broad/long, how long is this mans dick?

10/10 Tom Hanks would fap to you fapping to him fapping again.

And I think you know.

[Lord Mhork]

Damnit Majiffy I forgot you weren't the mod >.<

Whatever. I'm starting the read now

[Always]

not good enuff.

Yes, it is.

Clyton is town.

I'll be the first one to admit that I have a really hard time telling the difference between newb town and newb scum but guess what? Its an alt trying to look like a newbie.

'Cept it's not; Clyton's from another site. His first game here was Tales of You.

[Nero Cain]

well obviously

even if he's new HERE he's still a newb..

[Always]

Newbish, but no newb.
And no alt.

And also irrelevant.

Clyton's town, trust me, move on, leave it at that.

[Lord Mhork]

I looked at at the player list and immediately wanted to vote that monstrosity, but now it feels silly.

VOTE: ActionDan

This is interesting and noteworthy but I don't know for which alignment as of now. The motivation reads like trying to appear as town not voting Abomination, but it's followed up by an actual RVS instead of interaction with those actually voting for it. This is a weird contradiction.

I'm so sorry that I prefer

over VOTE: ?
Am I not allowed to have a preference? I'm used to using

for things and VOTE: being a typo soo I dunno man. Muscle memory and all that.

This is the overdefensive post I was referring to. It feels off to me with the level of explanation. But then, I don't know mafia xof. We will see what else she brings when she is feeling better.

Tbf I suspect that basically all the players in Abomination will flake out and we will deal with at most 2 people in that slot.

I am pretty sketched out by people who thought that reading difficulties would be a legit reason to vote them tbf.

lolsuchhydra is a reason that makes sense to me tho.

Explanation comes better late than never, I guess. Still feels really passive, though, and I'd wager the two of them most definitely are not buddies. I'm confused by the 'lolsuchhydra' bit though. I can't actually tell if he supports a policy lynch or not >.<

Yo Iece. Can you reconcile for me?

Unvote; Vote: kdowns

Why?

I usually advocate against Policy Lynches, most people probably know this, mainly for the reasons xofelf pointed out (thanks smart one), but I like making my own exceptions.

I like this post for the snarky towniness that emanate from it. The motivation here reads town.

How am I probably scum, Kleeck?
I know you aren't all that great at giving words to your reads, but try would you?

On top of this I know that xof is an inherently maternal person based on my talks I have had with her before, but this post feels scum motivation to go to Klick's emotions. Though it could easily be xof just not being a dick
(This is me not wanting xof to be scum )

What I really need to say is this. Normally, I'd just leave this comment as be. But it's actually really, REALLY important that I get an answer from you, Dan, if this is confirmed knowledge or just speculation. It makes a huge difference in something that could be a massive advantage to the town, but I need to know for sure.)

Well if it's important to you Mastin-sama:

A 28 player game would suggest two factions or more since a 7p scum team in a 28 player base is rather unwieldy imo, but it happens to be the case that I have role info that very much suggests two factions. You should work with that assumption.

I never read the role part of this post ._.
Fine I'll accept a multiscum theory for now. On an slightly related note, I feel like there's probably also a third party of sorts out there because it's a giant game and giant games should have third parties. *cough*Defense of Hyrule*cough*

The only role that would say multifactions is scum, xof. What comments did I miss?

Why am I scum Nero? Don't you always call me scum?

This was me reading xof's post as though she was saying that somehow ActionDan might have a role or something that could confirm multifactions and me herping the derp hard.

Am I still voting Dan? You're prolly scum but I don't have good reasons yet.

UNVOTE: ActionDan

I don't like katsuki but he/she is probably town. I read that string of posts as town trying to demonstrate his/her point in a really obnoxious manner to get people's attention, regardless of the fact that it's a really antitown way to do so ._.

Those nero votes (someone + klick) on pg2 were p bad

Please inform me about the error of my ways, that I may see the light.

PEdit: If we dedicate the entirety of D1 to having everyone take out Abomination, even if he flips scum, we're not going to have enough information to make good decisions later in the game. Here's a prime example of why what you're proposing is a bad idea:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=21433

This looks town.

I should add that, the hydra is anti-town, and thus the best pro-town course of action would be to take care of it today.

This is just faulty logic. I haven't actually seen the hydra be anti town yet. In contrast it helped exit RVS really quickly. Controversy is protown.

Thus endeth page seven.

[Lord Mhork]

Katsuki is probtown; policy lynches are bad.

-B_E

Whoa, whoa whoa.

Kasuki, you come in here, make 24 posts of ABSOLUTELY FLUFFY NONSENSE over the span of two pages...and WE need to be lynched? Bullshit.

Vote: Kasuki

The exact reason why we need to policy lynch this Abomination!

Also, note to self: Katsuki =/= Kagami

- b -

Faulty logic is faulty. Let's be real: all hydra's have dissonance. By that logic, all y'all should be voted out.

You should Mhork the same question since he's implying it and I only gave a "Lols" which may be implying the opposite or may be implying that it's dumb to believe that if one town role pm contains info on scum, then surely another can't, or may be implying that the statement in bold is arbitrarily designated to support your claim over mine based on his earlier comment that only scum have info concerning scum.

But to answer your question that you could easily answer yourself:

Your post (based off your role pm presumably) implies, but does not directly indicate, that there are two or more scum factions.

Wait damnit I'm confused. ActionDan spell out to me like I'm a five year old where the post is and why it assures multiple factions.

The verbiage of something in our PM implies that there are methods that people can be made to die outside of the conventional night kill/vig.

FTR, it's this that implies another killing method that isn't a night kill or vig that suggests another faction uses it.

Wait this? I don't see how that proves anything. Hell you could argue that poison or arson count as killing methods that aren't NK or Vig.

After reading ~posts~ I will give geists a town vibe.

Rereading Always I will give it a tentative town read. The non game interaction, thoughts from mala, and just mastin in general having opinions looks more town to me.

(Also a side note I'm doing that metacognitive reflection thing that I've recently gone into. I would like to apologize for the level of contempt I have been treating you with mastin. We can chat more later, but the short of it is that my anger at you is illogical and misplaced. Yeah I think you're arrogant for reasons you shouldn't, but that really doesn't make you a bad person or one I should treat harshly. Basically I'm sorry for being an asshole and I forgive you for

fucking me over

abandoning the hydra when it was the healthiest thing for you. Luckily this still means I can disagree with you, which I will continue to do.)

And with that Mhork is presently more manic and personable and caught up.

[Majiffy]

Damnit Majiffy I forgot you weren't the mod >.<

Whatever. I'm starting the read now

Feel free to openly ask me questions ITT about clarifying your wincon!

[Lord Mhork]

Oh wait I can vote too

VOTE: Iecerint

For the above.

PEDIT:
How do I lynch scum? o:

[Majiffy]

Flowchart.

[Young and Beautiful]

You guys need more love :*

Mhork and Mastin should give each other a huggle! Then this unfriendliness can be over!

Also, PL Abomination OR lynch shos scum.

- b -

[Rhaego]

Also, PL Abomination OR lynch shos scum.
-

Why Shos?

[Majiffy]

Go read his ISO and you'll probably figure it out.

[Rhaego]

UNVOTE: Abomination

[Always]

I forgive you for

fucking me over

abandoning the hydra when it was the healthiest thing for you.

(For the record, if you look at your posting in the hydra when I was in it but mentally deteriorating, versus your posting on your main after I replaced out, you actually got much, much, much stronger in your posting from an objective standpoint, so I still stand by the opinion that I was dragging not only you, but the entire game down. [I didn't put effort into keeping up--but I saw that post-me, the game flowed MUCH faster than pre-replace.] And I still stand by that in spite of this, nobody really needs to forgive me, and that I still owe everyone in the game a favor because while replacing out was less damaging than continuing to neglect the game, it was still the lesser of two evils when in an ideal world the solution would have been me getting back into the game and posting. In other words, that it was a bad thing to do that should not be forgotten yet was the best option I had at the time*.)

*Something that does occasionally still happen. You'd be surprised the trouble that losing my main computer in RL has done to wreck my mafia life, because it's more than just my RL that's affected. All my mafia stuff's on that computer, affecting my games. And in addition to THAT, imagine the stress to come from it. A trifecta of problems. That's not even going into my mental state from rl-atrophy. One or two events have the ability to set off a chain reaction of badness (be it real, imagined, or used as an excuse), to which I keep in check but always need booster-packs and always have to be cautious about.
I'm MOSTLY fine right now, but to say I'm fine would be a lie since obviously, I'm speaking about the above in present tense. On a scale of 1 to 10, this would be about a 3 on worrying, so, well, not worth worrying about.

But I digress. Not really game-relevant.

What

is

game-relevant is that either Mhork's thoughts are parroting mine or he's town.

You guys need more love :*
Mhork and Mastin should give each other a huggle! Then this unfriendliness can be over!

Also, PL Abomination OR lynch shos scum.

Still likely-scum, btw.

Also, PL Abomination OR lynch shos scum.

Why Shos?

It kinda freaks me out how you have a knack for posting immediately after Y&B.

Go read his ISO and you'll probably figure it out.

I hate to be the one to play

that

card, but, well...
Imma gonna be the one to play

that

card.

This just looks like the normal shos I've seen. Not particularly town, sure, yeah, but also not scum. Not all demons are demonic.

[kdowns]

I am going to ask for immediate replacement

[Cephrir]

kdowns, Sakura Hana and The Goat will be replaced in that order.

[Egg]

By Monday, I'll be caught up and runnin' shit up in here

[geists]

Because Iece's posting was worse?

I had a super negative reaction to xofelf's posting and I'd probably have our vote there if klick hadn't called xofelf town for a post that didn't ring town bells for me. I don't have any prior games for comparison and I haven't felt the urge to meta dive just yet. I'd like to look at reads with naive eyes for a while yet.

I am somewhat familiar with Iece's play and so far this game isn't reminding me of scum-Iece, though there are some things I've learned to expect from town-Iece that I haven't seen yet.