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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2007 4:32 am

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Yamahako wrote:
spectrumvoid wrote:The case for yama is him voting for someone he didn't find scummy. Yama answered by saying he did that to prevent a no lynch. The issue here is that Yama didn't present an alternative lynch target (if he did, he wasn't forceful enough about it.)

I voted him for that + trying to evade responsiblity.
I was pretty implicit at trying to get a lynch on Cubsfan yesterday, but he was
out of town
so people didn't want to get on the wagon.

It really sucks to lose about 2 pages of discussion :-/ I was making a case against Cubsfan and he was trying to detrail with craplogic - there wasn't a real case against me before the crash - though many people were asking me questions asking me to clarify my points.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2007 4:42 am

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From what I remember... Cubs really was going to be the lynch yesterday.

I have to read back, but I remember him being on the chopping block until he said that he was out of town.

I don't see what the deal is.

Okay--- I'll stop spamming and do a real re-read this time.

Thanks, speccy.
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2007 4:47 am

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Just curious: where did the speccy thing come from?
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2007 6:31 am

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spectrumvoid wrote:Just curious: where did the speccy thing come from?
Might be wrong, but the ZX Spectrum (old computer thing) was colloquially known as the "speccy". [/geek]

And, for AbboTT's benefit, here's my previous post on Yamahako:
Mert wrote:As for my reason for suspecting Yamahako, I've been racking my brain trying to remember where we were at before the move. For some reason I've found it more difficult to do so in this game than I have in most others, but I think I have remembered enough to give you a brief praicee if nothing else.

Yamahako was talking about moving his vote to AndrewS to avoid a no-lynch. He mentioned in his post (one of his posts?) about this that he knew that it needed four votes and so he put on the fourth.

I pointed out that the mod had simply said that the largest number would lynch. At the point this was clarified by the mod, Cubsfan and Andrew were tied for votes and so his assertion that his vote was to make sure we avoided a no-lynch seemed a little strange at that point.

So I went back and decided to see why he was suspicious of Cubsfan - all I found on the issue was the following:
Yamahako [58] wrote:Do you prefer lake or fly - seeing as how fishing seems to interest you...
Yamahako [115] wrote:Check his post history :-/
Yamahako [218] wrote:
unvote (if I'm voting), Vote Cubsfan4ever
How sure are you that Jack is acting off or Random
Yamahako [235] wrote:I'm not pro-cubansmoker, but we might be on the same wave length. I hadn't noticed the correlation. But I do like his dislike for Cubsfan, which is a plus in my book.
Yamahako [237] wrote:I think he's scummy in this game, I've never played a game with him before - so I don't have any meta reasons for my vote - just what I've already stated.
Unless I've missed something, I couldn't quite find a particularly strong case against Cubsfan - there are a few bits and pieces but nothing where I could go "aha,
that's
his suspicion of Cubsfan, right there".

My post that was lost on this subject was one part suspicion over the confusion of the whole "I had to vote Andrew to avoid no-lynch because he needed four votes" thing and one part question as to what his reasons are for being so sure Cubsfan is the play - he's been on him for a long time now but I can't find anything in his post history that explains why.

I didn't vote for him because a) I didn't want him at L-1 yet and b) I wanted him to explain his suspicions on Cubsfan before I decide whether or not to cast my vote.
I should probably point out, however, that his response to this post struck me as more town than a lot of his other posts throughout this game, so I'm not going to get on his wagon right now.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2007 7:04 am

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spectrumvoid wrote:Just curious: where did the speccy thing come from?
I dunno. I picked it up from your wiki page.

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... ectrumvoid
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2007 3:21 pm

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More lynchings, plz
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2007 6:22 am

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Hang on. Skruffs just snuck a vote without me noticing.

Skruffs: so why do
you
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2007 6:28 am

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Well, I've already addressed that repeatedly, but mostly it's because he immediately started the day 'where he left off' yesterday - I believe he is being voted on for others for voting someone he didn't think was scum, instead of actually pushing scum, and his response was that cubs fan was not in the game. Considering he started day one wanting to go after cubsfan, too, and basically seems to be a one trick pony, I think he is probably the right play for the day.

But this has alr eayd been discussed in previous pages.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2007 6:37 am

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Ok. I just wanted to know what were your reasons, since some other people also feel that he's scummy (including me, less so with his response but not cleared), with various reasons.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2007 8:09 am

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I also think trying to tie cubs to jack's death was... dumb.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2007 12:31 pm

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Skruffs wrote:I also think trying to tie cubs to jack's death was... dumb.
I would agree, except that NEVER HAPPENED. Please re-read you are basing your thoughts off of misinformation.
I'm suspicious - in every sense of the word.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2007 12:54 pm

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I reread a fair amount of this thread.

I think cubsfan is clean, Skruffs is too helpful to be mafia and Yamahako too friendly to be town.

I wish we could resolve our issue with ubertimmy.

Thrawn's voting is jumpier than a jack rabbit in heat.

vote: Yamahako


I also think Mert and AbboTT are scum.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2007 1:56 pm

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cuban smoker wrote:Yamahako too friendly to be town....

vote: Yamahako
This is a typical case of the 'you're so townie you must be scum' fallacy.

Why do you think Mert is scum? I have disagreed in an earlier post.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2007 2:24 pm

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"Too Townie"

*SIGH*
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2007 4:03 pm

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How is Yama too townie to be town?
You and him had the same view points on almost everything day 1 - you think that his view points were scummy now?
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2007 1:15 pm

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Skruffs, who's that aimed at? I'm confused.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2007 3:50 pm

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OTU Replaces Ubertimmy, effectively NOW!
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2007 4:32 pm

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*Cheers!*
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon May 14, 2007 2:28 am

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I believe that was aimed at my quote of cuban smoker => aimed at cuban smoker.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon May 14, 2007 2:33 am

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The sun has begun to set once more. You time for decision making is growing short. Also, the wind is probably about to quit blowing through my cape and hair, so I'll go to bed soon!


---------------Votecount------------------------
Cubsfan4ever -1- (Yamahako)
Yamahako -4- (skruffs, Cubsfan4ever, SpectrumVoid, Cuban Smoker)
Thrawn1020 -1- (Abbott)

Not Voting-Overtheunder, Mert, Thrawn1020
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Just a reminder for deadline rules! The one with the most votes will be lynched. If nolynch has the most votes, then there will not be a lynch. A tie will be decided with the first one that reached that number. Deadline hits on May 20th at 11:59:59 Any votes and unvotes after that time stamp will not be counted.

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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon May 14, 2007 4:22 am

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Which timezone?

(Could you state what time it is in your time zone?)
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon May 14, 2007 4:58 am

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I'll be back in a few hours to do a read through/post my thoughts.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon May 14, 2007 2:35 pm

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That was aimed at cuban smoker. Obviously.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon May 14, 2007 4:19 pm

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Sorry, I'm on -5 GMT I believe, aka the East coast of the united states.

At the time of this post, it is now 11:18 PM

Skruffs post 522 says 8:35 PM for me.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2007 4:11 am

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Hm... My vote is staying on yamahako.
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