Micro 333 -- Medical Mafia ~~Game Over~~

[Marquis]

to clarify

i'm seeing jackal as scum because while he

says

he sees sns and saki both as scum at this point, he doesn't even bother to make any points at all against saki. the "saki is scum" line from him comes out of nowhere, and to me it looks like a typical mylo/lylo scumplay, where as long as you get the initial mislynch you don't have to worry about making a case on/pushing a lynch on an actual scumpartner.

basically his progression of thought doesn't look genuine at all.

right now i'm debating whether to vote jackal over saki or not though because i'm still paranoid of notmafia..

[Not_Mafia]

I still don't want a mass claim

I'm also wary of this Saki-SNS thing, so if Jackal is unable to show his thought process for putting them as a team I could definitely see him as scum. I'm still tentative though because of SNS continuing to push through this mass claim thing still, however if the answer to my question below is no and no one CCs him on targeting Rach then he is conf towned (I think, feel free to correct me on this) unless Neil was vig who targeted her, but I don't think he would have targeted Rach.

@MOD Would a weak doctor death be listed before a scum kill?

The paranoia to Marquis is mutual, I am on the whole townreading him from a purely non-associative perspective (I can't really place SNS with anyone else) but I'm also aware that constructing arguments as well as this and rescuing a slot like that is well within the realm of his scumgame. So basically, I'm at the stage now where I think it's Marquis/SNS or Saki/Jackal and I lean towards the latter

[Marquis]

notmafia, vote jackal with me. be serious about this

i am fairly sure the jackal slot is scum regardless of a partner

UNVOTE:
VOTE: jackal

yeah yeah yeah also replacement is null sure, but newbie scum statistically replace out much more often than newbie town

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Jackal

Yeah I'm just struggling to see how a townie would sub in and claim a team that runs so contrary to everyone else's thinking with no explanation

[Nobody Special]

@MOD Would a weak doctor death be listed before a scum kill?

There is no order to the listing of nightkills.

[Not_Mafia]

@Mod So just to be sure, NKs aren't listed with priority?

[Nobody Special]

@Mod So just to be sure, NKs aren't listed with priority?

Correct.

[Jackal711]

It seems I didn't explain myself properly. The follow up post I made from my phone this morning apparently didn't go through.

If SNS flips scum, then I view Saki as the most likely partner because their interaction reads to me as hard bussing.

If SNS flips town, Saki is almost certainly scum pushing hard for a mislynch on a townie that's done a few scummy things.

Given this analysis, I am going to move my vote to the one that's more likely to be scum.

VOTE: Saki

[Not_Mafia]

That would be a very intense cross bus, up until your subbing in we were pretty much locked into a 1v1 of Saki and SNS so why would they do this in a potentially MYLO situation?

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 2.04

Jackal711 - 2 - Marquis, Not_Mafia
Saki - 2 - snscompt1, Jackal711
snscompt1 - 2 - ZZZX, Saki

Not Voting: ...

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch and 3 to no-lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-06-21 04:52:10)

[ZZZX]

vote jackal

Because I believe sns is town with his claim. Just hope he survives.


Sns target Saki next night if you can

I need the 2nd killer claim

Now if we have both killers mafia can't kill us all.

Anyone not a killer target nit Mafia
2nd killer target Marquis unless you are Marquisten target Saki



Gr8 we just got the game solved unless sns's claim was fake but I have a theory

[Not_Mafia]

If Jackal flips scum killers should be on Saki, if he flips town they should be on SNS

[ZZZX]

all non killers target Not_Mafia. (that doesnt make him confirmed town but a part of my plan)

[snscompt1]

I want the plan explained otherwise I will target who I think is most scummy. Which is probably Saki tbh but anyways.

[ZZZX]

if he flips scum then killers target noone

that way next day we get a 4 players mylo and if we mislynch the killer can actually fix it up.

I think we are screwed after looking at the plan and whats going on again.


If we mislynch and we kill 2 people wrong we basically auto lose

if we lynch right and kill 2 people wrong we are in lylo

if we lynch right and kill the 2nd scum then we are lucky bastards.
if we lynch wrong and not hit scum in any way we lose instantly.
if we lynch wrong and kill 2 wrong we auto lose
if we lynch wrong and kill one right we get lylo

so best move is to actually no kill if we lynch scum or kill if we lynch wrong...

righjt now whatever we do we are nearly screwed so I want some mass claiming. @sns I was wrong about mass claiming again

But before I mass claim did anyone target rach? I think we might still have naive doctor alive... ?

[ZZZX]

Unvote

so no derp hammaz

[snscompt1]

Scum still get a kill yes? The way youre wording it makes it sound like only town have the power to kill.

[ZZZX]

my wording did include scum kill calculation but we have nothing to be done about scum kill you see... its sad but true

[snscompt1]

So are we claiming? Im still pushing for yes via popcorn style.

[Nobody Special]

Saki has been prodded.

[Saki]

Saki has been prodded.

ow

[snscompt1]

Prodded in the eye apparently.

[ZZZX]

GUYS BEING INACTIVE ISNT FREAKING HELPING

actually I posted the plan. Anyone confirmed to do it post in the next 24 hours

not posting gets you lynched today.

[Jackal711]

*sigh* Welp. This sucks. Since this wont change, and I wanted to do this anyways, I probably have a killing role.

Not sure what to make of this. I want to believe he's town.
If so, then Saki is almost certainly scum. Especially with the lurk-enough-to-be-prodded over the past couple days.

I agree with Z's plan giving the best potential for town to win.

And since I'm very likely to be dead soon: I claim non-killer doc.

[ZZZX]

*sigh* Welp. This sucks. Since this wont change, and I wanted to do this anyways, I probably have a killing role.

Not sure what to make of this. I want to believe he's town.
If so, then Saki is almost certainly scum. Especially with the lurk-enough-to-be-prodded over the past couple days.

I agree with Z's plan giving the best potential for town to win.

And since I'm very likely to be dead soon: I claim non-killer doc.

who was your target?
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